We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just maybe if Tomlin was captain we would have a very different BCFC right now. He is a natural leader! Given responsibility characters like Tomlin often respond very well to such a tasking. Remember the uproar when Rooney was handed the arm band for England! Tomlin's and Johnson's futures might just be linked weather they like it or not. Tomlins desire to play in the premiership is well know and Johnson's desire to succeed as a manager not in doubt so maybe they should both sit down together and do a bit of soul searching because its takes two to tango! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 What qualities make him a natural leader to you? On the face of it he seems far too volatile a character to even consider for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Tomlin as captain would be a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: What qualities make him a natural leader to you? On the face of it he seems far too volatile a character to even consider for it. Just take a look at him on the ball all the rest should be fairly self explanatory... He has passion to win and that when harnessed is something that can not be taught! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 ............rear admiral, more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Really? Would be as stupid as electing Trump as president! wait...**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, We live in hope said: Just take a look at him on the ball all the rest should be fairly self explanatory... He has passion to win and that when harnessed is something that can not be taught! Passion to win does not make you a good football captain. No one is more passionate about a Bristol City win than me and I'd be shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Don Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hegeler is Captain material, calm, assured and showing leadership qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, We live in hope said: Just maybe if Tomlin was captain we would have a very different BCFC right now. He is a natural leader! Given responsibility characters like Tomlin often respond very well to such a tasking. Remember the uproar when Rooney was handed the arm band for England! Tomlin's and Johnson's futures might just be linked weather they like it or not. Tomlins desire to play in the premiership is well know and Johnson's desire to succeed as a manager not in doubt so maybe they should both sit down together and do a bit of soul searching because its takes two to tango! Why not?The team needs a leader and it might be a good move.He certainly has a lot to say and it gives him a good reason to speak to the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: What qualities make him a natural leader to you? On the face of it he seems far too volatile a character to even consider for it. Does he need any ? Obviously not a requirement by the club judging by how the armband has been handed around this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Passion to win does not make you a good football captain. No one is more passionate about a Bristol City win than me and I'd be shite. No, but people wanted di Canio as manager a couple of years back for the same reason! Hegeler will be captain next season if not sooner in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Tomlin has the experience, but is far too gobby. You need your captain to keep a cool head and defuse situations - not create them! I agree that Smith and Pack are ineffectual as captains, and I'd personally give the armband to Flinty. Always cares, always gives 100%, seeks to inspire others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, cockneydave said: Why not?The team needs a leader and it might be a good move.He certainly has a lot to say and it gives him a good reason to speak to the ref. This alone should disqualify him from consideration. If he never 'speaks' to an official again in his life it will be too soon; one of those players the 'back chat' rule was put in place for - is a liability when he opens his mouth. Needs to do his talking with his feet instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: but is far too gobby Hence why I said once given this responsibility they often deal with the tasking very well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 It worked for Sir Alex when he made Cantona captain. He was already a good player but he seemed to grow in stature, you could almost see him bursting with pride when he came out of the tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 A captain needs to lead by example and tomlin doesn't do that. He's not a team player, if he was he'd put a shift in to help his team mates defensively but he doesn't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: It worked for Sir Alex when he made Cantona captain. He was already a good player but he seemed to grow in stature, you could almost see him bursting with pride when he came out of the tunnel. This is a very Good! angle and a very sensible contribution to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider-Head23 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Wouldn't be surprised if Hegeler is captain going into next season. Likely to become a first name on the team sheet type of player. Clearly has leadership skills as well as a calm presence and a vast amount of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, steviestevieneville said: A captain needs to lead by example and tomlin doesn't do that. He's not a team player, if he was he'd put a shift in to help his team mates defensively but he doesn't . He is not a Team player really?!! From where I am standing he does nothing but tirelessly try and set others up to score goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, We live in hope said: This is a very Good! angle and a very sensible contribution to the thread. Well I am glad I was able to impress you, I guess that shows how little you think of my other contributions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Sir Matt Busby (for our younger posters he was the Harry Dolman of Man Utd) was asked what his biggest regret in life was. He replied that he should've made George Best (for our very, very young posters think Wayne Rooney only really good...and from Belfast) first team captain. Sir Matt thought that if he had done that, George wouldn't have gone off the rails and would've knuckled down to the job. So, if Lee is like George he can at least look forward to Lulsgate being renamed Bristol Lee Tomlin City Airport in about 25 years time......maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, Norn Iron said: Sir Matt Busby (for our younger posters he was the Harry Dolman of Man Utd) was asked what his biggest regret in life was. He replied that he should've made George Best (for our very, very young posters think Wayne Rooney only really good...and from Belfast) first team captain. Sir Matt thought that if he had done that, George wouldn't have gone off the rails and would've knuckled down to the job. So, if Lee is like George he can at least look forward to Lulsgate being renamed Bristol Lee Tomlin City Airport in about 25 years time......maybe. Again someone who can think outside of the box and not just go with the flow of the norm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: Sir Matt Busby (for our younger posters he was the Harry Dolman of Man Utd) was asked what his biggest regret in life was. He replied that he should've made George Best (for our very, very young posters think Wayne Rooney only really good...and from Belfast) first team captain. Sir Matt thought that if he had done that, George wouldn't have gone off the rails and would've knuckled down to the job. So, if Lee is like George he can at least look forward to Lulsgate being renamed Bristol Lee Tomlin City Airport in about 25 years time......maybe. Very good, I don't think Harry Dolman was ever our Manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: So, if Lee is like George he can at least look forward to Lulsgate being renamed Bristol Lee Tomlin City Airport in about 25 years time......maybe. They'll never rename Adge Cutler International to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Very good, I don't think Harry Dolman was ever our Manager though. Good point, well put! 14 minutes ago, Chris_Brown said: They'll never rename Adge Cutler International to that. There would be riots in Trumpton for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Tomlin has the experience, but is far too gobby. You need your captain to keep a cool head and defuse situations - not create them! I agree that Smith and Pack are ineffectual as captains, and I'd personally give the armband to Flinty. Always cares, always gives 100%, seeks to inspire others. I think the Tomlin for captain call is genuine but misplaced, and is the result of a desire to see him back in the team and performing again at the very high level we know he's capable of. However, to play devil's advocate from different sports, spot any similarities between Tomlin and: - the young hot headed Nasser Hussain ( turned England cricket around as captain), or - Dylan Hartley. Terrible discipline problems but practically none leading England (very successfully) at rugby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honiton Tony Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Dylan Hartley Is doing a great job as England Rugby captain and Lee Is a pussy In comparison so why not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 A leader does not point a finger, he offers five (a hand) to teamates. That is not Lee Tomlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, We live in hope said: Again someone who can think outside of the box and not just go with the flow of the norm.. Are you marking these with your class essays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We live in hope Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Midred said: Are you marking these with your class essays? I see your point. Not at all. I just enjoy a good debate amongst fellow supporters. After all 20,000 different ideas might just lead to one that brings great reward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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