The Original OTIB Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Any team at any level has the opportunity to get something from any game from dead ball situations. We have got increasingly worse as the season has gone on; even our throw-ins are generally hopeless. Does anybody see any evidence of coaching here? I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I would add to this and say why our crossing in general is so bad. Freeman delivers quite well doesnt he ? Tomlin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Gary O'Neil never beats the first man. It's shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Sad thing is a couple of years back we were absolutely lethal from set pieces. What the hell has gone wrong with them - are they being used in training at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 This is the question nobody in the media team will ever ask any of the coaching staff. Yet it remains a perfectly reasonable question. Are the players not drilled or are they simply ignoring the training? If we were any good at set pieces then I suspect we would have maybe 6 to 10 extra points by now. That we are failing so badly in this area is testimony to how utterly clueless things have become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 It seemed a bit better v Cardiff with Joe taking them on the left, Josh B on the right. TBF Josh does take a good corner/free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Funny isnt it. With our giants we should have so much domination in the air yet our delivery is pub standard. Terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Did you go yesterday? We were very poor with most corners straight to the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North London Red Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Brownhill's corners were dreadful yesterday. No pace on them at all, and most of them ended up straight in the Forest keeper's arms. It was like catching practice for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Against Forest with our tall team packing the box we did a few short corners. At the end of the game we had a free kick, all our players forward in the box including the keeper, our last chance.... and we take it short, ball does not get in the box, and suddenly our keeper is sprinting back... luckily we were spared our blushes as Forest hit the side netting of a completely open goal........ I think our players and Manager have frankly lost the plot..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 37 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said: Did you go yesterday? We were very poor with most corners straight to the keeper. No mate, just going by the Cardiff game. Sounds like it was back to normal yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boadle Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 You can score from set pieces? I just use it as an opportunity for selfies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBrotherErnie Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Really bizarre how bad we are now. In League One we were absolutely lethal, then we went up and now we always seem to play it short, and when we do try and swing it in, it never gets past the first man. Being good at set pieces could be vital for us staying up and getting goals against the run of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 We really miss Freeman on this dept. Him and Flint were lethal at one time. Now with extra height we are hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 We have a terrible goal return from corners these days. And look at our set-up. Loads of big guys all clumped up together, Tammy stands mid-post with two men holding onto him, if Tomlin is on the pitch he usually stands slightly to the left of the corner flag, in no position to affect play, no-one ever on the far post, no one poised to run in. Nail on head those who say the coaching has deteriorated under Lee's regime. That may not be all his fault, but he can see the results staring him in the face every game. As for our throw ins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, boadle said: You can score from set pieces? I just use it as an opportunity for selfies. Stick to the corners.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 There is no pressure when taking a corner, which makes ours baffling. You see better on the downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 There's no pressure on our set-pieces because our manager is only used to taking them. Too short to know what challenging for a high pass invloves. And that's not me attempting a personal insults. It's just fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Steady on criticising our highly paid players. Surely this is LJ's fault?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityred exile Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 For years & years we have been very much in short supply at any set piece , corners , free kicks , throw ins , penalties (when we get them ) leading to a goal , AND defending them , AROUND 20 POINTS PLUS id say , worse off over a season!! ESTIMATE also would think around 75% of goals we score are from open play which is good because we are a "footballing team" ! Over the years we have always "held r own "and given a good match at any level ,2its always been in our "DNA " the functional teams , which usually consists of maybe 75% percent of teams in the various leagues I s where we have always struggled with MAKES ME WONDER DO WE NOT WORKON THESE TASKS IN TRAINING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Carey 6 said: Gary O'Neil never beats the first man. It's shocking. I know why, LJ gets involved in training by being the first defender. In games they're about 2 feet taller ! sorry I realise that was heightist , just joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 We don't have much quality at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 As mentioned earlier in this thread it's our crosses, or total lack of them, as well as our set pieces that are poor. We have two centre forwards who would absolutely revel in some decent service from the flanks, but our total lack of width means it doesn't happen. I don't think I saw us get more than about 3 or 4 balls into the box in open play in the Cardiff and Reading games combined. Since Freeman has been out of the side it's got even worse as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Not only are we crap at set pieces, we are brilliant at conceding from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Seem to remember a quote coming out shortly after Johnson took over about how he wanted to get flint scoring again. He instructed freeman to whip the corners in at pace (instead of float them) and sure enough, flinty was back on the scoresheet in no time. Why change a successful tactic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 It's not just taking them, it's defending them as well. Pack has the highest pass rate completion % but is woeful in the air (see Sheff Weds away/Hull cup, etc.). Equally: we never put a man on the line at free kicks: Stop the forest goal? Quite possibly. Basic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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