richwwtk Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooRya Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 You and me both fella............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'm glad you posted this. I was starting to feel very alone in my views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 JOHNSON OUT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I cannot pretend I share your optimism but I will want the manager to do well until he is no longer the manager. I also agree that, whilst the board have made a huge call and one that I disagree with, it has nothing to do with them not respecting the fans or not wanting the best decision for the club. I do not agree with them on this but I do respect the fact they want the club to succeed and that the club has made a lot of progress in other areas. We just desperately, desperately, desperately need that to show on the pitch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. Fair play to you. Nothing wrong with what you believe in . I really thought we would get a result Saturday. But it was probably our worse performance from what I hear. I will continue to watch and support city . I won't be shouting expletives at Johnson or the board. Do I want him gone . Now unfortunately yes . If he stays which looks likely. I hope he wins every game and turns it around. But I just can't see it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said: I'm glad you posted this. I was starting to feel very alone in my views. You're not man, believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: Fair play to you. Nothing wrong with what you believe in . I really thought we would get a result Saturday. But it was probably our worse performance from what I hear. I will continue to watch and support city . I won't be shouting expletives at Johnson or the board. Do I want him gone . Now unfortunately yes . If he stays which looks likely. I hope he wins every game and turns it around. But I just can't see it . +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkInChance Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The team will always have my support but Managers come and go and he has to go. Lansdown is a complete fool when it comes to appointing Managers / Coaches and despite his millions and an improved stadium (well it's pretty anyway) we have not progressed. Basket case club that will always be the same.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. There is definition of insanity. Unfortunately you would seem to be confirming the diagnosis if you keep turning up at Ashton Gate expecting to see us win! Look we would all love it if we went an amazing 8 game winning streak but the evidence of our own eyes suggests that even 1 win appears beyond us at the moment. The only chance of us recording a win any time soon is if Trump's Press Secretary starts providing "alternative" football results as well as "alternative facts"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Phantom Posted January 23, 2017 Admin Share Posted January 23, 2017 Fair play to those still supporting him. Personally I'll always support the team that's on the pitch as I've done for the past 30 years, but LJ is badly out of his depth at the moment, and nothing points to anything other than relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Dr Balls said: There is definition of insanity. Unfortunately you would seem to be confirming the diagnosis if you keep turning up at Ashton Gate expecting to see us win! Look we would all love it if we went an amazing 8 game winning streak but the evidence of our own eyes suggests that even 1 win appears beyond us at the moment. The only chance of us recording a win any time soon is if Trump's Press Secretary starts providing "alternative" football results as well as "alternative facts"! I very rarely turn up expecting us to win. I always turn up hoping for a win. There is a huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Hearing rumours that Steve Lansdown is going on ITV Bristol news today at 6pm and will publicly back Johnson..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 LJ Still Has My Support Well, if I were you I'd ask him to return it sharpish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedJim Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. I admire your attitude, even if I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, MarkRed! said: Hearing rumours that Steve Lansdown is going on ITV Bristol news today at 6pm and will publicly back Johnson..... Ah the dreaded vote of confidence. That means he'll be gone in the morning then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I very rarely turn up expecting us to win. I always turn up hoping for a win. There is a huge difference And that is why LJ has to go now, because we are left with hope and 4 months down the line I see very little hope left between now and May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, richwwtk said: I very rarely turn up expecting us to win. I always turn up hoping for a win. There is a huge difference In which case it's not insanity, it's just blind optimism. Hope triumphing over experience! I come for the chance to meet friends although tbh I could save myself the trouble of going to the match and just go to the pub afterwards instead. I wouldn't be missing much other than disappointment, anger & frustration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. I do admire your optimism, but at what point do you just have to hold your hands up and say enough is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said: I'm glad you posted this. I was starting to feel very alone in my views. you and Greta Garbo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I liked the fella as a player and as a bloke. Always seemed a decent fella, and was on a hiding to nothing playing for his father. He was given dogs abuse by some as a player but never behaved in anything other than a dignified manner. I really wanted his tenure at City as Head Coach to be the opportunity for him to win over the doubters and usher in an era of success and progress. It simply hasn't worked. I won't abuse the man. He clearly has put a lot of thought, effort and passion into managing the club he describes as his 'dream club', but he's obviously fallen some distance short of the success required. On that basis I believe he has to go. And though I was no Cotterill acolyte, his first league title in 50+ years and EFL Trophy double earned him some time. I'm afraid LJ doesn't even have that credit on his meter. I respect those who still support him. I just think cannot see him turning this around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 To be honest I'm so peed off with it all, i wouldn't be upset to see all the management, back room staff, all the board room and the owner go. It just seems we have been here before and for all the talk about learning from mistakes the same mistakes are being made. I think it might be time i had a break from this club, because it looks pretty obvious we are drifting apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, 42nite said: LJ Still Has My Support Well, if I were you I'd ask him to return it sharpish! but wash it first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. My thoughts exactly, as posted elsewhere. We are not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, pillred said: I do admire your optimism, but at what point do you just have to hold your hands up and say enough is enough For me NOW (probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepton red Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I am sure Lee is a smashing chap who really wanted to succeed at BCFC. Unfortunately he has led the team to a record number of defeats and surely needs to fall on his sword and resign; financially irresponsible for him to do so, therefore it will not happen. Which brings me onto my main point, that although he is very fond of City, he has probably never paid to watch them play, never bought club merchandise, never paid to travel to an away ground and has earnt not insubstantial amount of money whilst serving the club. Please do not tell me he is one of us, he is paid handsomely to entertain us and provide the chairman with success; I am not sure what that would be. i do not want him to stay,he has had a longer stay of execution than most in his predicament. Sorry OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, phantom said: Fair play to those still supporting him. Personally I'll always support the team that's on the pitch as I've done for the past 30 years, but LJ is badly out of his depth at the moment, and nothing points to anything other than relegation This. Sadly there are no signs at all that he will turn it round, the only losing by one goal mantra means absolutely nothing and I genuinely believe that today's (non) decision virtually guarantees a return to League One. It also shows that the reality is it doesn't really matter how many games you lose under SL but who you are, as no way was Cotterill ever shown this sort of leniency. I was speaking separately to 2 diehards today, who go to every single game, (neither post on here) but both are adamant that Saturday was about as bad as it gets and that we will be relegated without a change very soon. Personally I would even take being hammered at Burnley if it meant we got the change we need, because let's face it, although we can't afford to surrender any league points, we aren't going to win the FA cup but on today's evidence it wouldn't matter because despite being totally out of his depth and clueless LJ is fireproof no matter how abysmally that we do under him. Utterly depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JHAGa Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Like I've said elsewhere, I can no longer defend our run of form and would accept the decision if Lee was sacked. However, I won't turn against him and he completely has my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, phantom said: Fair play to those still supporting him. Personally I'll always support the team that's on the pitch as I've done for the past 30 years, but LJ is badly out of his depth at the moment, and nothing points to anything other than relegation we have been there before and we will be there again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedge Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Andy Horsman said: I liked the fella as a player and as a bloke. Always seemed a decent fella, and was on a hiding to nothing playing for his father. He was given dogs abuse by some as a player but never behaved in anything other than a dignified manner. I really wanted his tenure at City as Head Coach to be the opportunity for him to win over the doubters and usher in an era of success and progress. It simply hasn't worked. I won't abuse the man. He clearly has put a lot of thought, effort and passion into managing the club he describes as his 'dream club', but he's obviously fallen some distance short of the success required. On that basis I believe he has to go. And though I was no Cotterill acolyte, his first league title in 50+ years and EFL Trophy double earned him some time. I'm afraid LJ does even have that credit on his meter. I respect those who still support him. I just think cannot see him turning this around. Thank you for typing my exact thoughts. Saved me the bother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Like others have said,managers and players come and go,and whilst I won't be shouting abuse at him,I think he has to go,many fans frustrations have now turned to anger and that will lead to a poisonus atmosphere around the club.Remember we as fans are the only constant in all of this,and I for one will continue to support the shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Like I said on Saturday, it's not that I don't think he will end this run (sometime or other we'll have to get a result even if it's just a fluke). But I just think it's going to be nigh on impossible to win back the support of fans now unless he goes on a similarly unbelievably GOOD run. He's just set Bristol City's record run of defeats, following on from 8 losses in a row at Barnsley just last season! People will rightly question whether the next awful run is just around the corner. And it is much harder to achieve success when you're working in an environment that expects you to fail, doesn't have belief in your ability and, frankly, resents you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 44 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. Sorry mate but there isn't any board, there's just SL, we know this from the way the McInnes appointment was conducted. We are already keeping on losing With every appointment SL protects his position by not choosing anyone who will threaten it. ie someone who would shake up BCFC in their efforts to achieve Premiership status. This is what SL fantasies about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. Admire you for posting this on the forum when many have been so vocal in calling for a change. Serious and genuine question though; why do you think we'll get a draw this weekend and then get back to back wins? I'm genuinely interested to understand your thoughts as maybe they'll give us a bit more hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 My problem is this. Even if we did manage to win our next two league games, does that mean he is once again the right person to lead us forward? This appalling run has been so inexcusable I think it will cast a long shadow even if we do manage to string a couple of wins together. In the complete absence of any mitigating factors that would excuse such a dreadful run of form, I can only come to the conclusion that Johnson is not equipped with the skills necessary to lead us forwards and progress. It would take more than two wins to change my mind now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Robin101 said: Like I said on Saturday, it's not that I don't think he will end this run (sometime or other we'll have to get a result even if it's just a fluke). But I just think it's going to be nigh on impossible to win back the support of fans now unless he goes on a similarly unbelievably GOOD run. He's just set Bristol City's record run of defeats, following on from 8 losses in a row at Barnsley just last season! People will rightly question whether the next awful run is just around the corner. And it is much harder to achieve success when you're working in an environment that expects you to fail, doesn't have belief in your ability and, frankly, resents you. Agreed - very similar to what I just posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Robin101 said: Like I said on Saturday, it's not that I don't think he will end this run (sometime or other we'll have to get a result even if it's just a fluke). But I just think it's going to be nigh on impossible to win back the support of fans now unless he goes on a similarly unbelievably GOOD run. He's just set Bristol City's record run of defeats, following on from 8 losses in a row at Barnsley just last season! People will rightly question whether the next awful run is just around the corner. And it is much harder to achieve success when you're working in an environment that expects you to fail, doesn't have belief in your ability and, frankly, resents you. Fans do forget. Look at GJ, although in different circumstances. Look at Fergie. LJ was very shrewd and looking incredibly promising last season and at the start of this. It's why we have such short-termism, fans and owners alike typically only focus on form rather than what has been achieved. Look how quickly SC went. Frankly, I think if LJ does turn it around then there will be the few who lurk for his next mistake, but just the same as those who were upon his appointment. The rest will get carried away in the hyperbole, as we all like to. It's why we follow football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JHAGa Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Sorry mate but there isn't any board, there's just SL, we know this from the way the McInnes appointment was conducted. I don't understand your point, didn't SL want Robins but Sexstone and the board preferred Del? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Ashton Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Quote There is definition of insanity. Or masochism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornacix the Druid Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, GrahamC said: This. Sadly there are no signs at all that he will turn it round, the only losing by one goal mantra means absolutely nothing and I genuinely believe that today's (non) decision virtually guarantees a return to League One. It also shows that the reality is it doesn't really matter how many games you lose under SL but who you are, as no way was Cotterill ever shown this sort of leniency. I was speaking separately to 2 diehards today, who go to every single game, (neither post on here) but both are adamant that Saturday was about as bad as it gets and that we will be relegated without a change very soon. Personally I would even take being hammered at Burnley if it meant we got the change we need, because let's face it, although we can't afford to surrender any league points, we aren't going to win the FA cup but on today's evidence it wouldn't matter because despite being totally out of his depth and clueless LJ is fireproof no matter how abysmally that we do under him. Utterly depressing. Agree with this. During our promotion campaign did we not win a lot of games by the odd goal? And when this was pointed out the response being "a win's a win!" Well, by the same though process "a loss is a loss". Doesn't matter how close it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Brave indeed.... I hope that I am proved wrong about LJ and he now starts an unbeaten run to the end of the season.... Sadly and I have watched nearly all the games this year (home and away) I dont think he can... he is just not up to it... the forest game for me was the nail in the coffin.... We have got worse... All his interviews are pretty similar from game 1 about the way were are playing. We are lucky to have 27 points..... Personally, after the Forest game I have never been so disappointed. The team were abject in a game we should have won comfortably.... If I had been in that dressing room a few plates would have gone flying... the lack of urgency, desire and movement was a disgrace.... I cannot tell you just how bad Forest were...... They are not safe either.... However, this follows a long line of games we should have either won or got something from.... my own view is that if we cannot get points off of these teams what hope against the top teams... Sadly, if SL does back LJ (which now looks likely) we are going down.. I hope I am wrong and please look me out as I would be more than happy to eat humble pie. At the end of the day we all want the best for the club. In any event, I will still support the team - none of this nonsense about getting rid of season tickets etc! Having said that, a 6 hr round trip to Burnley needs some motivation.... COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonred Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. I echo that. As I've stated on another post, Lee Johnson is, I truly believe, the man to lead City forward. That might sound naivety considering our drop down the league. We're not in the bottom three yet, and until i can see that City really could go down I will continue to support a man who loves the club, and is committed to future progress. Rather someone like that than a journeyman manager with no connection with City, other than his paycheque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, JHAGa said: I don't understand your point, didn't SL want Robins but Sexstone and the board preferred Del? My point is about the mythical "board" and equally mythical "Chairman" at BCFC. The chairman of St Johnstone was openly questioning who the "Chairman" of Bristol City actually was during the McInnes negotiations. ie. everything had to pass through SL. This leaves me to believe that Bristol City Football Club is the plaything of Steve Lansdown and Dawe and all the others are little less than puppets. Thats why we get non-entities as managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRed! Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, glastonred said: I echo that. As I've stated on another post, Lee Johnson is, I truly believe, the man to lead City forward. That might sound naivety considering our drop down the league. We're not in the bottom three yet, and until i can see that City really could go down I will continue to support a man who loves the club, and is committed to future progress. Rather someone like that than a journeyman manager with no connection with City, other than his paycheque. Thanks Lee - good to see you on OTIB! Only kidding... all of these points are true about his love of the club - but did Tinnion not love the club? At the end of the day, its a results business and I dont think any other manager would have survived this run and the nature of it... I hope LJ comes good... he is clearly going to have a vote of confidence and he needs to deliver. The question is - will he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 They say every cloud has a silver lining, at least nobody will want to poach LJ for a better job, phew there's something to keep us all warm during this cold snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I cant see the board wanting to sack LJ anytime soon given they only gave him a new contract a few weeks ago, wouldn't look good on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, 29AR said: Fans do forget. Look at GJ, although in different circumstances. Look at Fergie. LJ was very shrewd and looking incredibly promising last season and at the start of this. It's why we have such short-termism, fans and owners alike typically only focus on form rather than what has been achieved. Look how quickly SC went. Frankly, I think if LJ does turn it around then there will be the few who lurk for his next mistake, but just the same as those who were upon his appointment. The rest will get carried away in the hyperbole, as we all like to. It's why we follow football. Well I agree to an extent. But Gary Johnson DID go on a very good run of form that i previously mentioned: After "enduring a club record of nine successive defeats...City then lost just three of their next 16 games, and this fine run of form was capped with a 6–0 win over Gillingham, in which defender Louis Carey scored a brace. This was City's most emphatic league win since beating Charlton by the same score in September 1969" (from wiki). Of course we were then promoted, and then nearly promoted again. Even then some fans never really believed in him. If LJ stops this run of form, and we end this season say 16-17th I just don't believe that fans will get behind him and believe in him (for right or wrong). We need to go on a truly remarkable run and storm the latter part of this season if the last two months are going to be forgotten, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. I respect your opinion. But when we are both at quiz night, expect me to brainwash you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I respect those who still back LJ and to be honest I want to back him too but it's just the way the team (at home anyway) has yet to have a good first half. Then we are either chasing the game or when we do score first scared we will concede and drop as deep as can be. It is pretty sickening to see our clubs manager stats since the GJ era. The only glimmer of Hope is the fact he turned it around at Barnsley. but overall I think he he has had enough time and this job came too soon for LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'm not he's clueless, Johnson out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 And mine. All this talk of banners, taking your seat after so many minutes or turning your back is nothing short (no pun) of a disgrace. Through thick (and some certainly seem to be) and thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 hours ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. We will get stuffed. Our football is bloody awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, WestonRobin said: Admire you for posting this on the forum when many have been so vocal in calling for a change. Serious and genuine question though; why do you think we'll get a draw this weekend and then get back to back wins? I'm genuinely interested to understand your thoughts as maybe they'll give us a bit more hope. I have nothing to go on, except my optimism, and the eternal hope that professional pride will kick in somewhere and the players will find a way to break the cycle and drag us through it. There is only so much a manager can do and, whilst he has made his fair share of mistakes, an awful lot of bad luck has gone against us as well to produce this run, along with ever diminishing confidence the longer it has gone on. It's no surprise that we don't look a good side right now, we are on a horrendous run and, as often happens a change of manager may well bring about the required change in fortune, but as I said originally, all it takes is one bit of luck to turn our way and things will change. I just hope it comes sooner rather than later because I think there is most certainly the makings of a good manager in Lee, it just needs a chance to show itself before Steve Lansdowns patience eventually wears out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: We will get stuffed. Our football is bloody awful. Why will we get stuffed? The only team to come close to doing that to us this season was Brighton, and even then it was only two goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 hours ago, richwwtk said: Until the board make the decision to get rid, then LJ has my support as manager of Bristol City. Despite the losing run, we are not getting stuffed and it just feels to me like one very small stroke of luck could well be all it takes to turn things around and get us moving up the table again. A draw at Burnley on Saturday followed by two league wins (my personal prediction) and things could well look a whole lot better. There will undoubtedly be a point at which he will be relieved of his duties if we keep losing, but when that point comes is not my decision and I am still confident in SL's decision making in this respect. The people claiming that SL does not have the best interests of the club at heart and has no respect for the fans are just plain wrong. I realise I'm an insane optimist, and am very much in a minority on here, but it's how I feel. I'm with you brother. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 hours ago, BCFC_Dan said: I'm glad you posted this. I was starting to feel very alone in my views. You're not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Halleluja, halleluja, halle..luja baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Halleluja, halleluja, halle..luja baby! Leonard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Rednwhiterob said: Leonard? Happy Mondays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 My position had move to the I don't know position, mainly because I believed the club would dismiss him (not that I want that) But after listening to SL interview I'm once again convinced LJ is the right man for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Up The City! said: My position had move to the I don't know position, mainly because I believed the club would dismiss him (not that I want that) But after listening to SL interview I'm once again convinced LJ is the right man for us. You know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 hours ago, smokey live said: To be honest I'm so peed off with it all, i wouldn't be upset to see all the management, back room staff, all the board room and the owner go. It just seems we have been here before and for all the talk about learning from mistakes the same mistakes are being made. I think it might be time i had a break from this club, because it looks pretty obvious we are drifting apart. I'm feeling exactly the same Smokey. Why the **** do we put ourselves through it? I've waited a long time for SL to spend some decent money on quality players, and finally I've got my wish. Unfortunately the only way forward is to do the same with the Manager, instead of always the cheap option. With the squad we've now got midtable should have been well achievable, not another bloody relegation battle. What the hell happened to the team that battered Fulham 0-4 Someone said something on another thread the other day that really made me think, they said thank god we played Villa before Bruce came in. Well it would have probably been the same team we faced, but the fact it was Bruce in charge, and not the other guy (can't remember his name) proves that a decent manager can make the difference on the pitch, and from another fans perspective as well. I really do feel sorry for SL at the moment. He's a good bloke, spunked millions on players and the new stadium and we're on a handcart from hell, destination L1. If LJ does go, SL really has to go for it again with the cheque book and get someone in with a higher profile! I know we'd have no chance, but I'd like someone like Chris Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Up The City! said: My position had move to the I don't know position, mainly because I believed the club would dismiss him (not that I want that) But after listening to SL interview I'm once again convinced LJ is the right man for us. Fair enough but the TV interview was not one that made me think SL is fully backing him. His tone said something different. As it happens, at least he's come out and said something. Much as I've said I think he's had more time than I think he deserves, my thoughts count for zip, and I hope he can turn it around. I won't think he's the best young manager if we win a few, but I might think he's starting to learn. He's got a lot of repairing to do if that dies happen. I hate saying things like 'we'll know more after Rotherham' or '4 points from the next 2 home games and we'll be alright'. It never plays out like that, there are too many other combinations. We could lose both and be no worse off. We could win both and be no better off....we are in there where other team's result dictate the pressure. No idea whether you rest a few for Burnley and put everything into Tuesday or not. Not my problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.