Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I see what Lee Johnson has done here. If there's one way to guarantee the support of City fans, it's to have Hollowhead on your case. Perhaps he should stick to signing Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Hardly suggests he 'hates' our Head Coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 You gotta laugh mind babbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 First the Post overstates it then you; I doubt very much the idea of hate enters his head. Frustration for sure but not hate. That is football. No story here. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 He might have a point but wev'e got more important things on our plate than the utterances of that dullard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Oh good we've blown our chance to get a sub standard player off the wage bill. Well done to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Hardly suggests he 'hates' our Head Coach... **** me it's irony mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, havanatopia said: First the Post overstates it then you; I doubt very much the idea of hate enters his head. Frustration for sure but not hate. That is football. No story here. Move along. Jesus H Christ does anyone understand ******* irony it ain't ******* difficult FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: **** me it's irony mate. Desperate backtrack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, BS4 on Tour... said: Desperate backtrack.... Don't be a **** FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Jesus H Christ does anyone understand ******* irony it ain't ******* difficult FFS. Irony is used to usually convey the opposite of what one says and I do not think for one moment that Ian Holloway loves Lee Johnson or Bristol City. Perhaps you meant sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, bpexile said: For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? He's right. Of course he is. But like father like son the mess around with the careers of players who exercise heir right to let their contract run down. Orr, Basso, Freeman... not committed, not part of "the group" according to the Johnsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Irony is used to usually convey the opposite of what one says and I do not think for one moment that Ian Holloway loves Bristol City. Perhaps you meant sarcasm? No definitely irony teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said: No definitely irony teacher. OK well in that case I respect your opinion that Ian Holloway might love Lee Johnson. Perhaps you would respect mine by not mouthing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Don't be a **** FFS. No need for that, we're all on the same side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, havanatopia said: OK well in that case I respect your opinion that Ian Holloway might love Lee Johnson. Perhaps you would respect mine by not mouthing off. 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No need for that, we're all on the same side... it's called defending oneself from inaccuracies about an obvious ironic post (well ironic to most people) and coming at the end of another tense day in the life of BCFC. Goodnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 21 minutes ago, Olé said: I see what Lee Johnson has done here. If there's one way to guarantee the support of City fans, it's to have Hollowhead on your case. Perhaps he should stick to signing Neymar. what's wrong with Messi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliesboots Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, reddoh said: what's wrong with Messi? No sell on value you know...:whistles: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Freeman is useless in the Championship and regularly gets played by LJ. Take the money and move him to Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, shelts said: Freeman is useless in the Championship and regularly gets played by LJ. Take the money and move him to Olly Disagree. And bollocks to 'Olly'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: it's called defending oneself from inaccuracies about an obvious ironic post (well ironic to most people) and coming at the end of another tense day in the life of BCFC. Goodnight. Sadly because most people don't get irony and so when a correct interpretation is made of a remark, as I did, some people get mouthy or get into a strop. At the very least I appreciate exactly why you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, NickJ said: The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Seems like a reasonable assessment assuming Freeman had not fallen out with his boss. And if that were the case such fallings out are becoming rather expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, bpexile said: For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? It's OK, I'm sure you can join in with the thousands who applaud him at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Sadly because most people don't get irony and so when a correct interpretation is made of a remark, as I did, some people get mouthy or get into a strop. At the very least I appreciate exactly why you did. Not in your original reply you didn't, you attempted to pooh pooh me (that's sarcasm by the way) Which is (and note the word irony):- sarcasm ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/ noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Do you think this is a unilateral decision by LJ or that MA and SL agree with this approach? Remember that player recruitment and contracts are not all LJ's responsibility - maybe MA and SL agree that this approach is better to try and get players to commit before the transfer deadline closes. Similar to the Mickey Naynard situation - sign or get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Not in your original reply you didn't, you attempted to pooh pooh me (that's sarcasm by the way) Which is (and note the word irony):- sarcasm ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/ noun the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. No I was not being sarcastic, at all. I was plainly disagreeing with you because I did not read your original post, correctly, as irony. To be clear according to the Oxford English Dictionary:- IRONY:- The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect: ‘‘Don't go overboard with the gratitude,’ he rejoined with heavy irony’ Like I said.. most people, truthfully, get irony wrong certainly on this forum and I am sure I have made that error in my lifetime, quite easy to do. If you are sticking with your line that you wrote irony then you misinterpreted its meaning. Not trying to put you down but since you mouthed off about it I am compelled to at least try and point this out. Clearly you meant irony i know that much. Now get to bed mate, its past your bed time.. i think that is sarcasm or maybe patronising crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Disagree. And bollocks to 'Olly'. Lovely chap Olly. Not sure what Luke's done this season apart from the volley. This is what makes football great....opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerRed Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The Freeman situation reminds me more of Bradley Orr when Gary Johnson left him out of the squad for not signing an extension. LJ has said it's all amicable but the effect is the same - City are not using a player that could be the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 44 minutes ago, NickJ said: The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Totally agree Nick. Poor decision making, putting his own job on the line by not playing a player who's been performing decently....who might get you a something. Yeah, I know his goals/assists record ain't great, but he assists a lot of misses too. Very different but another case of not putting the club first was the Taylor Moore loan/radio debacle. Of course hindsight is great but Moore, still at City, would provide cover across the right side of the back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 54 minutes ago, reddoh said: what's wrong with Messi? ...nothing, I'll do the washing up in the morning, **** It tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City37 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” Ok Ian, so why are you talking about it? You made a bid that was rejected - get over it. I used to find him quite funny at times but now just bored of the blithering oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Totally agree Nick. Poor decision making, putting his own job on the line by not playing a player who's been performing decently....who might get you a something. Yeah, I know his goals/assists record ain't great, but he assists a lot of misses too. Very different but another case of not putting the club first was the Taylor Moore loan/radio debacle. Of course hindsight is great but Moore, still at City, would provide cover across the right side of the back four. He's been average at very best in the championship, I'd let him go, luckily we're in a posistion where we can dictate terms, if qpr and that utter **** Holloway don't like it then tough, makes it all the better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, shelts said: Lovely chap Olly. Not sure what Luke's done this season apart from the volley. This is what makes football great....opinions Opinions can be wrong, like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Im_over_ere said: Do you think this is a unilateral decision by LJ or that MA and SL agree with this approach? Remember that player recruitment and contracts are not all LJ's responsibility - maybe MA and SL agree that this approach is better to try and get players to commit before the transfer deadline closes. Similar to the Mickey Naynard situation - sign or get out. Speaking of Nicky Maynard, great player for us, loathed by the fans for not signing a contract. Luke Freeman, bang average to poor and he can still do no wrong in the eyes of some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, bpexile said: For once I agree with Hollowhead, sad isn't it ? Not really-he would at least keep us up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” He would be dealing with Ashton not Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Probably playing hardball to get the best deal. Holloway is playing the media to force through the deal as chap as possible - well done to all who are getting their knickers in a twist but shall we wait until the end of the transfer window before criticising? And isn't it Ashton who is in charge of buying and selling not Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” I agree with him , reluctantly. At eighteen months left on his contract a player has to resign or be sold in the transfer window with twelve months remaining if we want to get something back on him . Obviously talking about an offer may just alert other potential buyers to the situation so not a bad move there. However , actually, we are in danger of freezing out Freezy and him going for nowt in the summer without playing for us again. Tricky . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: Totally agree Nick. Poor decision making, putting his own job on the line by not playing a player who's been performing decently....who might get you a something. Yeah, I know his goals/assists record ain't great, but he assists a lot of misses too. Very different but another case of not putting the club first was the Taylor Moore loan/radio debacle. Of course hindsight is great but Moore, still at City, would provide cover across the right side of the back four. reminds me of the Paul Hartley situation. He was good, Paul Hartley. Just stare out the opposition… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Rob k said: He's been average at very best in the championship, I'd let him go, luckily we're in a posistion where we can dictate terms, if qpr and that utter **** Holloway don't like it then tough, makes it all the better for me. I wish all of our players were playing average!!! Seriously, I get your point though....and agree we should be playing hardball with a rival, especially one managed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I agree with him , reluctantly. At eighteen months left on his contract a player has to resign or be sold in the transfer window with twelve months remaining if we want to get something back on him . Obviously talking about an offer may just alert other potential buyers to the situation so not a bad move there. However , actually, we are in danger of freezing out Freezy and him going for nowt in the summer without playing for us again. Tricky . What I am struggling with is normally if the player intimates that he is going to run his contract down, so ultimately refusing to even discuss a new contract, the club will act in the manner that you describe, but there has been sweet FA from the club, until Hollowhead makes a bid and suddenly we offer him a contract and there is no mention that this is an improved contract to one that he may or may not have been offered originally if indeed one was ever offered in the first place. To me this smacks of the lack of professionalism of BCFC past, you know the BCFC pre MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: From our good friends at Bristolpost. 20:01 Some developments in the Luke Freeman saga... ...and QPR boss Ian Holloway has hammered Lee Johnson and Bristol City over the winger. Freeman has been linked with Rangers but has been offered a new deal at City, which he is yet to sign. “I think that’s gone. We had a chance to do something and they didn’t want our offer,” Holloway told West London Sport. “They’ve let it out at the wrong amount, I know what I offered. A Bristol City fan shouted at me in his car when I was down in Bristol. But get your facts right. “The fact is if you’re letting your players run out of contract and you’ve only got six months to go then that’s your fault, not anybody else’s. “They’ve said all sorts of things and their manager has made statements about it. “If you’ve turned down an offer from someone, why do you have to go out and talk about it? It don’t make sense.” Well please let the big nosed skelator the feeling is mutual!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The only person who has come out of this with any credit is the City fan who shouted at that Cadbury Heath monkey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 12 hours ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Jesus H Christ does anyone understand ******* irony it ain't ******* difficult FFS. Dramatic irony, litotes, hyperbole - common as muck on 'ere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Dramatic irony, litotes, hyperbole - common as muck on 'ere I never got as far as Mr Thomas's class, I left for idyll of Headley Park before that pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London expats Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 12 hours ago, NickJ said: The Freeman saga is one of many examples that Johnson has not got it as a manager. Before being omitted from the squad, he was one of our better players. My opinion of course but clearly Johnson at the very least thought he was worthy of a regular starting place. Then he drops Freeman, because the player would not commit to an extended contract, even saying something like Freeman had had to make a decision soon. Why? Freeman has a contract until the summer and its up to him if he signs an extension. Whether he intends to sign or not, he appeared committed in every game. Now though we have a decent player being paid to twiddle his thumbs. Madness. Your having a laugh. A player who has scored 10 goals in 99 games for us, As debated many times no end product from him and not good enough. What more can the club do , he has been offered a new contract and obviously has been advised to look for a move away so refuses to sign. No one knows how committed he may be at the moment to play for us even if selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 At least Freeman was trying to play to get a move away, unlike some it seems. It's a long time until deadline day, I am expecting for the deal to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, London expats said: Your having a laugh. A player who has scored 10 goals in 99 games for us, As debated many times no end product from him and not good enough. What more can the club do , he has been offered a new contract and obviously has been advised to look for a move away so refuses to sign. No one knows how committed he may be at the moment to play for us even if selected. In essence I agree with the player assessment, but exactly why was the offer of a new contract so late in the day?, it doesn't make any sense, if the club knew he wanted to move they should have made him available in the summer, if they were never going to offer him a contract they should have made him available in the summer, but surely not just allow him to run his contract down for nowt?. Unless LF said "I am going to run my contract down and will refuse any new offer and will refuse any proposed transfer", I suppose we might see soon because presumably he will be able to sign a pre contract with a new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Is it just our team that has the problems with players running down contracts? Does Hollowhead have a point here regards reference to 18 months? Doues other teams with Quality managers have the same problem as I dont see it with the likes of say Steve Bruce's teams or others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I never quite understand the logic of not playing players in this circumstance, does this mean we will leave Tammy out, as he is also playing for a future at another club next season. Have Bristol City stated how much was bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I never got as far as Mr Thomas's class, I left for idyll of Headley Park before that pleasure. Ah yes. The Welsh bard. Sadly didn't have the words let alone the methods to mould us into a football-playing Primary School. (Not making any comparisons of course). We were regularly hammered by Bedminster Down and I dare say Headley Park. Do not recall one speck of football training or skills instruction. Just chose the 11 nearest pupils. Tactics! PAH! What the **** are they? Slightly better at Cricket with Mr Gilbert. Played at the Clanage. What blissful days. Will City fans ever again those feelings again? (Turning nasty now) I don't know about you mate but I'm sick of my Football Club being the plaything of a miss-guided, albeit thoroughly nice-sounding billionaire (millionaire?) I think he should stick to looking after the pies and bogs. best wishes SK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Now now, let's be nice to Holloway as looking at the tables and fixtures on sky sports we need a favour. While we are playing Burnley according to sky's fixtures lists Burton are away to QPR and IF and it is IF by chance Burton win then Bristol city drop 4th from bottom with Wigan dropping in the bottom 3. Wigan25pts Burton 25pts City 27pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, London expats said: Your having a laugh. A player who has scored 10 goals in 99 games for us, As debated many times no end product from him and not good enough. What more can the club do , he has been offered a new contract and obviously has been advised to look for a move away so refuses to sign. No one knows how committed he may be at the moment to play for us even if selected. Did you think Freeman was signed as a striker? Freeman's goals record for City - while nothing special - stands up well against all the other midfielders at AG during his time here. There was nothing in his previous career record to suggest he was signed by City with the expectancy he would get alot of goals, so why are you surprised he's been unremarkable in that respect? To use it as a stick to beat him with is just absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Freeman said ages ago he wasn't inclined to sign a new contract. His reasons who knows, money not good enough here, signing on fee as a free agent, doesn't like LJ, doesn't like Bristol....who knows. But this is not a recent issue. Not playing him is not helping. Freeman is not responsible for all this, but is probably a symptom. Either way did we establish whether earlier posters were sarcastic or ironic!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 28 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Freeman said ages ago he wasn't inclined to sign a new contract. His reasons who knows, money not good enough here, signing on fee as a free agent, doesn't like LJ, doesn't like Bristol....who knows. But this is not a recent issue. Not playing him is not helping. Freeman is not responsible for all this, but is probably a symptom. Either way did we establish whether earlier posters were sarcastic or ironic!? I vote for ironically sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 So someone took the opportunity to shout at Holloway in Bristol- of all the subjects he could give him grief for, he shouted at him about Luke Freeman's price tag (or lack of). Personally I would have gone for something about pretty much taking QPR & Rovers down in the same season back 2001, and included lines about questionable parenthood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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