formerly known as ivan Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Please can we stop the embarrassing love in with these two. Tomlin was shit and rightfully taken off. His reaction to that was terrible and wouldn't expect to see him starting again anytime soon. Refused to shake hands and walked straight down the tunnel. As for Tammy, I love him as much as anyone but he isn't untouchable. The reaction from the crowd to LJ taking him off was pathetic. He was wasteful against Shef Wed Tuesday night and missed another sitter in the first half and wasn't playing well so was rightfully taken off. People moaned he was under too much pressure and we need other strikers to take the pressure off. When that happens everyone boos! As much as I am in the LJ out camp, it was nice for him to be able to put two fingers up to a few with his decision to replace Tammy with the goal scorer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonG666 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Tammy needs to know that he isn't untouchable if he isn't playing well otherwise he will become lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamalagerdrinker Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Please forgive me if I'm wrong, I was going to write a post about this later but will do it now.. Is Tammy really all that? I know he's our top goal scorer and I don't know where we would be without him this season but he's not really that exciting to watch, sure he's a pure poacher and does that brilliantly. But for me when was the last time he had a real good run at a defence and did something useful with it? I know most of the time he's isolated can't do anything but he never seems to really run with the ball, get behind defenders and put one away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I'm all for players getting subbed off but anyone would struggle when you get long hall after kind ball to chase against 3 defenders with your nearest team mate 49 yards from you. He's never been one to be all over a game but would've scored if given then same chance as Djuric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said: Please forgive me if I'm wrong, I was going to write a post about this later but will do it now.. Is Tammy really all that? I know he's our top goal scorer and I don't know where we would be without him this season but he's not really that exciting to watch, sure he's a pure poacher and does that brilliantly. But for me when was the last time he had a real good run at a defence and did something useful with it? I know most of the time he's isolated can't do anything but he never seems to really run with the ball, get behind defenders and put one away. In answer to your question - yes he is, for the first reason you gave. He's an instinctive finisher and great at getting to the ball first. At his age, to have so many goals at this level, and not having to rely on blistering pace, that's good going. He is still young, though, so he's not going to dominate every game, especially with the Championship having many experienced, strong defences. We shouldn't have to rely on him, but we should feel lucky to have him for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: I'm all for players getting subbed off but anyone would struggle when you get long hall after kind ball to chase against 3 defenders with your nearest team mate 49 yards from you. He's never been one to be all over a game but would've scored if given then same chance as Djuric. I haven't seen the goal yet, so won't say he will have or not. But Tammy has missed several gilt edged chances in recent games. I wouldn't say with certainty he would have scored from any position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I haven't seen the goal yet, so won't say he will have or not. But Tammy has missed several gilt edged chances in recent games. I wouldn't say with certainty he would have scored from any position. He scored similar against SW in the first half of the year. He'd have put it away. Yet we are somehow at the point where we are questioning our 16 league goal scorer because he doesn't have a 100% goals to shots ratio. Every player misses chances at every level. I don't know where some City fans get their expectations from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Of the three taken off only little should start the next; of the three brought on, each of them should start. Joe B would be dropped if I'm picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Just now, JoeAman08 said: He scored similar against SW in the first half of the year. He'd have put it away. Yet we are somehow at the point where we are questioning our 16 league goal scorer because he doesn't have a 100% goals to shots ratio. Every player misses chances at every level. I don't know where some City fans get their expectations from I don't expect him to score every time, but he has missed a bunch of sitters recently. I'm not questioning his talent, but at the moment with his recent form I do question whether he would have scored with such low confidence. He could have scored a hat-trick against Brentford and they would all have been goals similar to ones he got earlier in the season. Just because he did it once doesn't mean he will every time. He could have got a brace on Tuesday but didn't then either. I'm not criticising him for it, that's the way things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I agreed at the time with Tammy sub. Only disagreement was Paterson coming on. Abrahams movement is at times too static and doesnt give the defence much to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I don't expect him to score every time, but he has missed a bunch of sitters recently. I'm not questioning his talent, but at the moment with his recent form I do question whether he would have scored with such low confidence. He could have scored a hat-trick against Brentford and they would all have been goals similar to ones he got earlier in the season. Just because he did it once doesn't mean he will every time. He could have got a brace on Tuesday but didn't then either. I'm not criticising him for it, that's the way things go. I'm just saying we have to live with him missing from time to time and coming in and out of form. It happens to everyone. That same Brentford game, Scott Hogan missed 3-4 sitters and he's up there with TA and got himself a big move to Villa. I'd bet a large sum he'd have put away the same chance as Djuric. Not taking away from Djuric either as he's now effected two games so positively when he's come on. Tammy is a must to play every game and it'll take trying used to having options that can give him a break but I always feel we are more likely to score with him on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Said at the time I thought it was unfair to take Tammy off. His game just doesn't suit playing up top on his own. He had relatively little service today. I would have given him 10 minutes with Djuric and if he hadn't improved then change him. That said, I thought Taylor looked bright - his enthusiasm was great as was his movement. Tammy could learn a lot from watching the runs made by Taylor...admittedly only seen him for the 30 mins but he made the defence move far more than Tammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarumred Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Tammy played up front on his own in the early part of the season and no one complained then because he was scoring on a regular basis and the team were winning. Djuric has played well in the two games this week when he has come on and I would be inclined to start him in the next match along with Matty Taylor and leave Tammy on the bench. A rest won't do him any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Three subs and all three spot on, all three positively impacted the game. Tammy and Tomlin did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 A bit unfair on Tomlin and Tammy,a Striker and a AM who had... well what support, a back four, 2 holding/defenisve midfield players, and 2 wingers who got forward every now and then... basically 2 attacking players and a slow moving ponderous out of ideas midfield. Yes we looked better on 60 minutes because we had pretty much 3 upfront, 2 wing backs pushed further forward, with 2 holding/defensive midfielders still.... no shock that you look better attacking when you have players committed to it, and not 2 players (Tammy and Tomlin) who for that first 60 minutes were hung out to dry, in a desperate hope that his subs would win the day - even said pre-match that he thinks his subs would win the game for him. So that's what we have come down to, poor defensive football, hoping that maybe we can grab a goal (at home to the worst team in the division) but never mind if we don't because we most of our eggs are in basket No 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said: I'm all for players getting subbed off but anyone would struggle when you get long hall after kind ball to chase against 3 defenders with your nearest team mate 49 yards from you. He's never been one to be all over a game but would've scored if given then same chance as Djuric. Tbf Tammy ran his legs off today and your post is spot on ish. Subs worked for me today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca in the Dolman Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Tammy has been amazing but its a long hard season and he is still learning. Taylor showed great mobility and touch and I think provided with some of the chances previously not taken, like against Wednesday, he will take them and finish them. Lots of games lost by one goal and it could have make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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