Benjam!n Ultra Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Out. Regardless. He's lost everyone but SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I know several friends who have stopped going down the gate (all season ticket holders) and they have said they won't go back until Johnson has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, allyolly said: Opinions like this can only be driven from some sort of weird personal agenda. Pathetic. Personal agenda you say. Go on expand on that, have you any theories why the poster would have personal grievances against a person he probably doesn't even know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BcfcDuncs said: Will all know he will be sacked soon but say he went on a finished the season strong and ended up mid table . Im sure people opinions will change again . That escalated from the next 3 games quickly. .. I think most people would've made their minds up based on the 30+ games we've already played this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, allyolly said: Opinions like this can only be driven from some sort of weird personal agenda. Pathetic. I think he means regardless of what LJ does in the next 3 games as opposed to any personal agenda. Many hold the same view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BcfcDuncs said: Say we won the next 3 games on the bounce .. yes i know it wont happen but if it did , will you still be saying johnson out or stay with johnson next season ? It'll still be "bye bye Lee", from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, upthebracket said: I'd like to see this to be honest but I'm struggling to think of when it's happened in England in the Championship. I remember it happening at Yeovil with Skiverton if I'm right? Footballs a weird business with managers, I believe replacing him is a necessity to purely stay up, however I could see him learning from this experience and being successful in the future either with us or another club. Bryan Robson/ Terry Venables at Boro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornacix the Druid Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 It would seem that the only way the present manager could win supporters trust back is to have a storming rest of the season and then have a solid "top half of the table" / "knocking on promotions door" next season. Trust is a very hard thing to win back once its lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BcfcDuncs said: Will all know he will be sacked soon but say he went on a finished the season strong and ended up mid table . Im sure people opinions will change again . But with him in charge we all know this will never ever ever happen for me i hit rock bottom and the leads we squandered against reading and derby Just sums up how terrible we are ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, bcfcRobbo said: Everyone giving it large that there's no turning back whatever happens. Yeah right, If he wins five on the bounce there's no way you'll be calling for his head. We just lost eight on the bounce and some still think he's the messiah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 It's a pointless question as it will never happen. Like wondering what you will spend the £100 million on when you win Euromillions. Just a fantasy. He has done too many things that convinced me he has no leadership or tactical skills to redeem himself as far as I am concerned. Dead Man Walking - just a case of when they put us out of our misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 1 hour ago, BcfcDuncs said: Say we won the next 3 games on the bounce .. yes i know it wont happen but if it did , will you still be saying johnson out or stay with johnson next season ? Is that fickle though or reacting to the facts. As it stands, based on results, recruitmentand performances, he should be fired. If from this point on he won 10 on the spin then at the point, he maybe shouldn't. What I would say though is that even if he won the next three, the last 10 months have left a blot that can't just be ignored and won't go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 He could win the Champions league and only ever be two defeats away from an otib post titled "I was right about Johnson". it was always going to come to this, it was too soon in his managerial career to gloss over the fact he was a marmite player here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm not fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, downendcity said: I'm not fickle. No, I am fickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: He could win the Champions league and only ever be two defeats away from an otib post titled "I was right about Johnson". it was always going to come to this, it was too soon in his managerial career to gloss over the fact he was a marmite player here. Complete tosh I appreciated him as a player more than many/ most As a manager I do not rate him (Based on his managerial life) one bit As most supporters - judging him on the here and now and the post he now occupies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: He could win the Champions league and only ever be two defeats away from an otib post titled "I was right about Johnson". it was always going to come to this, it was too soon in his managerial career to gloss over the fact he was a marmite player here. But it has been poor though. Your post almost reads like that this season isn't worthy of sack, it's just that it's Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, Alan Dicks said: Personal agenda you say. Go on expand on that, have you any theories why the poster would have personal grievances against a person he probably doesn't even know? Of course it's not going to happen but if we won the next 5 games, secured championship status and showed real signs of progress but that is not recognised that is not an objective opinion. Hence the comment about other agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, 054123 said: But it has been poor though. Your post almost reads like that this season isn't worthy of sack, it's just that it's Johnson. Ok that's fair, but I do feel there was a significant minority that were only too willing to write him off despite a very good start to this season, and an acceptable end to the last. As it is, we've gone way past the point of being able to claim even an unfortunate set of circumstances- the only person not seeing that is the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Out. He's already proven he's utterly incompetent. He may get lucky for a bit, but he's still incompetent and certainly not a leader of men. If he was incompetent he would have been gone long ago, probably never employed. When he does goes the replacement will have six months, before his head will be called for, because this is how football works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'd love us to win the next three games and then to end the season strongly. I just can't see it happening. Wednesday's performance was just so dire and had so little fight. We are on more than a bad run - failure to get results has become the norm Even if LJ keeps us up and is still at the helm in the summer, it's very difficult to have any belief that next season would be any better under him...so yes, he'd still have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyolly Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, David Brent said: I think he means regardless of what LJ does in the next 3 games as opposed to any personal agenda. Many hold the same view. Fair enough but that viewpoint, if followed through, is not ultimately in the best interests of BCFC. If LJ, and a big if I know, starts to show he can turn things round what would be the point of sticking to a current widely held view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, BcfcDuncs said: Say we won the next 3 games on the bounce .. yes i know it wont happen but if it did , will you still be saying johnson out or stay with johnson next season ? I always feel questions like this are much more effective when accompanied by an A, B, C or D, and printed in Take A Break. Which, ironically, was my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I must be fickle, but I've said all along, that if LJ turns it around, and it's because he's suddenly learned from his past mistakes...then he ought be able to continue an upturn. I just doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry2157. Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, BcfcDuncs said: Say we won the next 3 games on the bounce .. yes i know it wont happen but if it did , will you still be saying johnson out or stay with johnson next season ? 100% out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 He's lost the players, the fans and now the fans are turning on the owner, only one way this ends. Delaying the inevitable, whether you believe it to be fair or not. Holding on for this long before pulling the trigger, coupled with that interview today means SL will be questioned a lot more on the structure of BS and the club in future. SL shot himself in the foot on this one, big time. The 'new Gate' ain't gonna look so shiny in Div 3 and won't be enough to deflect questions that should be legitimately asked of the 'board'. And I was one of the believers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 For my money he was never the gaffer for us, came here when we had turned it around under Pembo, he began by going with the formula in place which worked, then the tinkering began and the rest is history, team selection made on the basis of who's in with the gaffer rather than who's most likely to do best for us - he's more like the wannabe gang leader from primary school - no coincidence that the players who get us excited, suddenly don't get to play any more, almost as if he resents their popularity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 More I think about the OP I have a suggestion Lets win the three games and have that discussion then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Out. He's already proven he's utterly incompetent. He may get lucky for a bit, but he's still incompetent and certainly not a leader of men. So if he did win the next 2, 3 or 4 and then went on to win more, which you could argue might demonstrate competence and leadership (arguably required to get out of this mess) would your view be different? Reading the views on here, it won't matter if LJ won the next 50 games, it wouldn't be enough to win the fans back so he may as well walk now. I do wonder when Otib will start to question the players blame in all this when somewhere along the line they have to take some accountability for what happens on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: So if he did win the next 2, 3 or 4 and then went on to win more, which you could argue might demonstrate competence and leadership (arguably required to get out of this mess) would your view be different? Reading the views on here, it won't matter if LJ won the next 50 games, it wouldn't be enough to win the fans back so he may as well walk now. I do wonder when Otib will start to question the players blame in all this when somewhere along the line they have to take some accountability for what happens on the pitch? It simply won't happen. If I say no, you'll come back with "what if he wins 20 in a row". Let's just say I'd be happen to be proven utterly wrong but I've seen enough footy to know when I see a dud. Most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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