Guest JHAGa Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. There were some of us who thought at the time that his acquisition had as much to do with stopping them as it did helping us. And if we don't play him much then that is almost bound to be the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. Eh? With him we are still facing a genuine threat. I'm sure I'm missing your humour so apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I thought he would start today with Djuric, Burtons CB were slow and physical so putting one slow physical person against them was just pointless - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 One 37 year old up front, at home, against Burton tells you everything you need to know about LJs acquisitions, fear and coaching nous, as well as his desire to go for the 3 points or play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellie Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 of course it was we needed some to keep Engvall company he would get bored on match days otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 28 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. I hate to break this to you but we still might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JHAGa Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, RumRed said: I hate to break this to you but we still might. Can't see it, fortunately. They've W1 D6 L0 since Taylor left. They usually win most of those draws by the odd goal but struggle to score since they lost Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, Fiale said: I thought he would start today with Djuric, Burtons CB were slow and physical so putting one slow physical person against them was just pointless - 21 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: One 37 year old up front, at home, against Burton tells you everything you need to know about LJs acquisitions, fear and coaching nous, as well as his desire to go for the 3 points or play it safe. Spot on, both of you. Echoing my thoughts from earlier this evening. Regardless of his Rovers history, he was L1's top scorer and is the closest we have to a player in the mould of Tammy Abraham. He simply has to start for me. Especially against a back four like Burton's that look like they each had the turning circle of the QE2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Can't see it, fortunately. They've W1 D6 L0 since Taylor left. They usually win most of those draws by the odd goal but struggle to score since they lost Taylor. I'm just pessimistic at the moment, you may well be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, RumRed said: I'm just pessimistic at the moment, you may well be right. I think 4 of those games though were against teams in the top 6 which is actually a really good return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: One 37 year old up front, at home, against Burton tells you everything you need to know about LJs acquisitions, fear and coaching nous, as well as his desire to go for the 3 points or play it safe. Yet LJ played 3 at the back which completely nullified any forward intent from Cotterill. It also seemed to confuse our defence more than anyone else. The formation ended up looking like 3-4-1-1-1, and so little real width further forward except early on from Bryan down the left. But again his crossing wasn't the best, although he only had Wilbraham to pick out against 3 or 4 defenders which can't help. In essence we played a lot of hoofball up to Wilbraham but there was no playing off him. It only got better with Djuric because at least he had Taylor as a possible outlet for his knock downs. So why didn't we start with them rather than wait 60 minutes? The only options left other than getting angry at the manager and increasingly the owner, seem to be to turn on each other as fans, sinking into depression about our club's willingness to sleepwalk into League 1, or some gallows humour as we review the magnitude of a cock-up this season has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. I don't think anyone thought he'd be particularly useful... it just seemed funny at the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest S_Y_G Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Can't see it, fortunately. They've W1 D6 L0 since Taylor left. They usually win most of those draws by the odd goal but struggle to score since they lost Taylor. Much mproved team since you poached the ******, played 4 of the top 6 and didn't lose, relatively easy run in and Millwall have 7 away from their last 11. Don't think we will make playoffs but it's a possibility. You have yourselves a proven div 1 striker for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 It would indeed be a remarkable achievement if Rovers are involved in a third consecutive promotion. On Taylor and Djuric not starting; It truly demonstrates a level of fear combined with ineptitude that Wilbraham starts ahead of them and alone at home. Nothing against Wilbs, he plays a very valuable part and deserves game time as he ably demonstrates but why buy players only to have them play little or no part when we are facing relegation? Its been discussed over and over I know but that is simply because we are all, virtually to a man, incredulous that the guy is still in charge when frankly he should have been shown the door some 10 games ago. There is still time to turn this slowly sinking tanker around but with Johnson in charge it will only be pure fluke if we are in this league again next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, S_Y_G said: Much mproved team since you poached the ******, played 4 of the top 6 and didn't lose, relatively easy run in and Millwall have 7 away from their last 11. Don't think we will make playoffs but it's a possibility. You have yourselves a proven div 1 striker for next season. How can I put this politely? oh I can't **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, S_Y_G said: Much mproved team since you poached the ******, played 4 of the top 6 and didn't lose, relatively easy run in and Millwall have 7 away from their last 11. Don't think we will make playoffs but it's a possibility. You have yourselves a proven div 1 striker for next season. Enjoy Fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, JHAGa said: Can't see it, fortunately. They've W1 D6 L0 since Taylor left. They usually win most of those draws by the odd goal but struggle to score since they lost Taylor. Draws against Sheff Utd, Bradford, Scunthorpe, and Bolton? Yeah, we've improved since Taylor has left and we would have lost them games prior to the January changes. With him and the new additions we may have won but we are a better team overall now than before. We would not have won them games without the Jan additions even if we kept Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 hours ago, S_Y_G said: Much mproved team since you poached the ******, played 4 of the top 6 and didn't lose, relatively easy run in and Millwall have 7 away from their last 11. Don't think we will make playoffs but it's a possibility. You have yourselves a proven div 1 striker for next season. Its what I felt when he was signed-if shit happens were set for league one. You though are far from Championship ready..too early and if anything would be a set back-you would be whipping boys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Remember we are spending big for the future Sadly the future may never come PS We still have no real idea of the reasons behind the distinctly odd agreement between the two clubs after the Taylor signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conceited Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 hours ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. Just goes to show how spiteful you lot are , nevertheless it will backfire , see you derby day circa Sept/ October 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyrubble Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 How can we start with one striker in a must win game,all these fancy formations are ridiculous for average players ,stick to 442 with some pace up front it's simple and you can see the shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 hours ago, S_Y_G said: Much mproved team since you poached the ******, played 4 of the top 6 and didn't lose, relatively easy run in and Millwall have 7 away from their last 11. Don't think we will make playoffs but it's a possibility. You have yourselves a proven div 1 striker for next season. Apologies people are telling you to eff off. I happen to agree with what you've said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 hours ago, JHAGa said: Otherwise we would be facing a genuine threat of being a division below Rovers next season. It was a ploy to take the heat off the manager. Still potentially a good acquisition, with the right manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 7 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: One 37 year old up front, at home, against Burton tells you everything you need to know about LJs acquisitions, fear and coaching nous, as well as his desire to go for the 3 points or play it safe. I've long given up wondering what Johnson is going to do next. After Derby everyone could have expected two mobile forwards would have been the way to go, Tammy was a loss yes but why not try Engvall. There's no point playing a targetman without support or runners from MF, Ried and Tomlin barely made it past Wilbs , it improved a little with Duric coming on but there's no continuity and that cannot help the situation. I would really love to know SL's thinking, such an long woeful run, what is there left that Johnson hasn't tried? And if he hasn't tried it yet in a run that has lasted half a season , why not? The club is sleepwalking to Div1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I've long given up wondering what Johnson is going to do next. After Derby everyone could have expected two mobile forwards would have been the way to go, Tammy was a loss yes but why not try Engvall. There's no point playing a targetman without support or runners from MF, Ried and Tomlin barely made it past Wilbs , it improved a little with Duric coming on but there's no continuity and that cannot help the situation. I would really love to know SL's thinking, such an long woeful run, what is there left that Johnson hasn't tried? And if he hasn't tried it yet in a run that has lasted half a season , why not? The club is sleepwalking to Div1 We're no longer sleep walking to Div 3 we're running towards it full tilt shouting 'mummy' like a homesick 8 year old after 5 days at Scout camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Sad the highlight of the season has been signing the Rovers striker, who'd have thought it. We appear to have condemned both Bristol teams to Div 3 yet again. Well done BS #makingbristolproud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Firstly let me make it clear that I would have been ecstatic if Rovers had languished in NL for ever. However I am afraid that very soon they will be the top team in Bristol. If we have to play them, then I would reluctantly have had to acknowledge their success and achievements if it was in the Championship. But being the underdogs in league 1 as I suspect we will be if LJ stays, what a bitter pill to swallow that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 23 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Firstly let me make it clear that I would have been ecstatic if Rovers had languished in NL for ever. However I am afraid that very soon they will be the top team in Bristol. If we have to play them, then I would reluctantly have had to acknowledge their success and achievements if it was in the Championship. But being the underdogs in league 1 as I suspect we will be if LJ stays, what a bitter pill to swallow that will be. Rovers have done well, no one can deny that surely. After yesterday, and the fact he didn't start, I'm seeing the Taylor transfer as pettiness and a distraction to the results. I found it funny at the time but it's looking more and more like the bully in the playground kicking some kids football over the school gates, tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, RumRed said: Rovers have done well, no one can deny that surely. After yesterday, and the fact he didn't start, I'm seeing the Taylor transfer as pettiness and a distraction to the results. I found it funny at the time but it's looking more and more like the bully in the playground kicking some kids football over the school gates, tragic. TBH there are, and have been so many odd decisions made by LJ, that it is clear he is so out of his depth it is bordering on painful as we slowly, yet unerringly, grind our way to the trap door! A bit like watching a crash in slow motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Frenchay Red said: TBH there are, and have been so many odd decisions made by LJ, that it is clear he is so out of his depth it is bordering on painful as we slowly, yet unerringly, grind our way to the trap door! A bit like watching a crash in slow motion. It seems to be speeding up now though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Unfortunately the only reason we signed Taylor was to keep the wolf from the door. We all bought in to it and became more positive as we were all 'laughing at the gas'. Behind the scenes, LJ and SL are rubbing their hands together knowing that that signing has given a totally inept and out of his depth manager more time and the pressure eased slightly. Taylor was never going to be a starter, he was mere fodder in the sick games of LJ and SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Red white and red said: Unfortunately the only reason we signed Taylor was to keep the wolf from the door. We all bought in to it and became more positive as we were all 'laughing at the gas'. Behind the scenes, LJ and SL are rubbing their hands together knowing that that signing has given a totally inept and out of his depth manager more time and the pressure eased slightly. Taylor was never going to be a starter, he was mere fodder in the sick games of LJ and SL. Well that's back-fired badly. What's their next ploy to distract us from the obvious that's staring us in the face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Conceited said: Just goes to show how spiteful you lot are , nevertheless it will backfire , see you derby day circa Sept/ October 2017 It doesn't "go to show" anything. Taylor not playing is just one of many, many things Johnson does that confuses the hell out of most of us. Rovers agreed to the release fee in his contract because you were so desperate to keep him, according to a few on here with a bit of knowledge we had been keeping tabs on Taylor to see if he could make the step up from L2 to L1. The fact he was available relatively cheaply was a bonus. Despite what your ridiculously paranoid and bitter fans think not everything SL does is to spite the Gas. The 'Welcome to Bristol' shit was clearly designed to get under your skins....it worked. It wasn't very bright and it probably will backfire, in the same way that Darrell's "happy days" jibe backfires whenever you lose a Court case, lose a game heavily or get dumped out of the FA Cup by Non League opposition. Clearly after 16 years a fixture we all used to take for granted every season has become your 'cup final', you don't even make any secret of it. Congratulations, we're going to close the 'gap' for you...I expect one of you will write a book about it. How cute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: It doesn't "go to show" anything. Taylor not playing is just one of many, many things Johnson does that confuses the hell out of most of us. Rovers agreed to the release fee in his contract because you were so desperate to keep him, according to a few on here with a bit of knowledge we had been keeping tabs on Taylor to see if he could make the step up from L2 to L1. The fact he was available relatively cheaply was a bonus. Despite what your ridiculously paranoid and bitter fans think not everything SL does is to spite the Gas. The 'Welcome to Bristol' shit was clearly designed to get under your skins....it worked. It wasn't very bright and it probably will backfire, in the same way that Darrell's "happy days" jibe backfires whenever you lose a Court case, lose a game heavily or get dumped out of the FA Cup by Non League opposition. Clearly after 16 years a fixture we all used to take for granted every season has become your 'cup final', you don't even make any secret of it. Congratulations, we're going to close the 'gap' for you...I expect one of you will write a book about it. How cute... :laugh: give credit where it's due for once. Since we were relegated to non-league what has changed on the field for you lot? You have been doing the same as you were doing every season before that, bouncing between the bottom of the Championship and League 1. No one thought we would be where we are after relegation to the conference. We have closed the gap, you haven't done it for us. Would you rather have DC who has worked miracles with next to no budget or LJ who has splashed 15M and still can't buy a win? Only asking because a lot of you have dropped the "dopey" reference for DC, and have acknowledged the great job he has done and continues to do. For what it's worth, I think you'll stay up but as I don't watch you I have nothing to base that on other than you have too many players who should be good but for some reason aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Since we were relegated to non-league what has changed on the field for you lot? Errr... sorry to break it to you, but since you kicked off your first season in non-league "on the field" we've won League One at a canter and spent two season in the Championship. When was the last time you can claim any of those things? Granted; it's touch and go that we'll still be at this level next year, and perhaps we'll finally be in the same division again after your 15+ years below us, but in the three years since you were heading to Dover away we've been playing Newcastle, Villa and the like, so I'm not too bothered. Nice to know you're all still obsessed with us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Seventeen said: give credit where it's due for once. Since we were relegated to non-league what has changed on the field for you lot? You have been doing the same as you were doing every season before that, bouncing between the bottom of the Championship and League 1. No one thought we would be where we are after relegation to the conference. We have closed the gap, you haven't done it for us. Would you rather have DC who has worked miracles with next to no budget or LJ who has splashed 15M and still can't buy a win? Only asking because a lot of you have dropped the "dopey" reference for DC, and have acknowledged the great job he has done and continues to do. For what it's worth, I think you'll stay up but as I don't watch you I have nothing to base that on other than you have too many players who should be good but for some reason aren't. You are currently a division below us, as you have been for most of the last 16 years...yes, this will almost certainly change in May. The 'gap' (on the pitch at least) will be closed, and that will be due to our bizarre inability to compete in the Championship despite the money we've spent and the players we have. 'Dopey' has done well, Im not denying that. Would I rather have DC? Id rather have anyone at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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