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Really good programme on Gazza on ITV4 tonight. 

Love the bloke, his talent, character, pride for his country and being a Geordie!

 

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That was a great watch. Amazing passion for the game. Goes to show what football can do to young lads. It was interesting to hear what caused him to turn to drink for the non social reasons - The media should take a large proportion of the accountability for how Gaza is today. 

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1 hour ago, Loco Rojo said:

That was a great watch. Amazing passion for the game. Goes to show what football can do to young lads. It was interesting to hear what caused him to turn to drink for the non social reasons - The media should take a large proportion of the accountability for how Gaza is today. 

But they won't. In all honesty I think he would have struggled no matter what , being rich and famous just escalated his problems.  Still the best English footballer I've ever seen..

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13 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

But they won't. In all honesty I think he would have struggled no matter what , being rich and famous just escalated his problems.  Still the best English footballer I've ever seen..

Yeah, you could be right but hearing him talk about the phone tapping scandal and how he blamed his parents for leaking stories to the press before he confirmed it was actually the media tapping him - and what that did to him (paranoia/drinking alone/depression). They should be ashamed).

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17 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

But they won't. In all honesty I think he would have struggled no matter what , being rich and famous just escalated his problems.  Still the best English footballer I've ever seen..

The media have a lot to answer for but as you say I think Gazza would have had problems anyway. His autobiography and the problems he's had since childhood make for harrowing reading, and are I think the root cause of it all.  

Having said all that, what a player he was. During his peak years, especially before he got his knee injury, he was and remains easily the best English player in my lifetime. His talent was just outrageous. 

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Today there is a professional support team behind players who have issues.

In Gazza's day there was next to nothing. I was lucky enough to watch him play for England a few times, he always found time on the ball.

World class act!

 

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1 hour ago, Loco Rojo said:

That was a great watch. Amazing passion for the game. Goes to show what football can do to young lads. It was interesting to hear what caused him to turn to drink for the non social reasons - The media should take a large proportion of the accountability for how Gaza is today. 

100% agree with you there! I remember a few years ago when he fell off the wagon again and a red top (guess which one) printed pictures of him going out with nothing but an open dressing gown on! They printed EVERYTHING. You've got to be a pretty low down human being to go ahead and print that all the while knowing what a sad situation he is in.

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1 hour ago, brizzlelou said:

100% agree with you there! I remember a few years ago when he fell off the wagon again and a red top (guess which one) printed pictures of him going out with nothing but an open dressing gown on! They printed EVERYTHING. You've got to be a pretty low down human being to go ahead and print that all the while knowing what a sad situation he is in.

Absolutely. Watching that last night and getting a small glimpse of what has been through certainly made me think about his situation differently. Those in the media should be ashamed of how they've publicised his issued over the years - all to sell stories - nothing to do with celebrating his skill on the pitch.  Shameful.

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17 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

Absolutely. Watching that last night and getting a small glimpse of what has been through certainly made me think about his situation differently. Those in the media should be ashamed of how they've publicised his issued over the years - all to sell stories - nothing to do with celebrating his skill on the pitch.  Shameful.

Let's be honest they hacked dead children's phones so Gazza had no chance sadly.

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A very good player but imo not world class Why?

The great players turn it on in the biggest games

The two biggest games Gazza played were 

The FA cup final v Forest = Lost the plot

World cup semi v Germany = Say no more

Both games let his team down

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1 hour ago, Maltshoveller said:

A very good player but imo not world class Why?

The great players turn it on in the biggest games

The two biggest games Gazza played were 

The FA cup final v Forest = Lost the plot

World cup semi v Germany = Say no more

Both games let his team down

Interesting take on things . Can't say I agree 

Posted
1 hour ago, Maltshoveller said:

A very good player but imo not world class Why?

The great players turn it on in the biggest games

The two biggest games Gazza played were 

The FA cup final v Forest = Lost the plot

World cup semi v Germany = Say no more

Both games let his team down

Fair comment but slightly unfair as he never ever really played for a team who were one of the best and challenging for titles so didn't have two many big games to show his world class abilities on the biggest stage.

that cup run in the semi final he scored one of the best free kicks ever against their biggest rivals...he lasted 20 or so minutes in the final so who knows what would have happend 

italia 90 he was England's best player as he was in Euro 96 and England got to semis in both.

lazio were not the biggest side in Italy and he is idolised by their fans.

if he would have gone to Man Utd rather than Tottenham then he may have realised his true potential.

best player for England in last 30 years debatable, I would say gerrard but very close.

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2 hours ago, Maltshoveller said:

A very good player but imo not world class Why?

The great players turn it on in the biggest games

The two biggest games Gazza played were 

World cup semi v Germany = Say no more

Both games let his team down

Let his team down ?

Really ?

You actually serious ?

'Say no more' - what are you on about ?

What game did you watch ? (if you did)

I was at that WC semi Final - Gazza was brilliant and after the booking almost drove us onto victory

Complete nonsense

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If Ferguson had got his hands on him then who knows what direction his life would of gone but best English player I have had the pleasure to watch in the last 40 years by a mile. 

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The most gifted English player I have ever seen . His own worst enemy . A real shame to see him crippled by alcoholism a horrible disease 

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One of the most iconic, gifted footballers this country has ever had. 

His balance, his aggression and his passion - led him to be up there with the likes of Maradona at Italia 90.

He was my childhood hero, and one of 'us'.

I wish we had players today that played for the shirt like he did.

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4 hours ago, Lordofthebling said:

One of the most iconic, gifted footballers this country has ever had. 

His balance, his aggression and his passion - led him to be up there with the likes of Maradona at Italia 90.

He was my childhood hero, and one of 'us'.

I wish we had players today that played for the shirt like he did.

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He is an icon and a classic representation of 'Us'.  

His flaws mirror his genius to an exact, specific degree.  Proper bi-polar.

A part of me will die the day Paul Gascoigne does.  Come on mate, you're loved like us all.

 

 

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17 hours ago, MC RISK77 said:

Fair comment but slightly unfair as he never ever really played for a team who were one of the best and challenging for titles so didn't have two many big games to show his world class abilities on the biggest stage.

that cup run in the semi final he scored one of the best free kicks ever against their biggest rivals...he lasted 20 or so minutes in the final so who knows what would have happend 

italia 90 he was England's best player as he was in Euro 96 and England got to semis in both.

lazio were not the biggest side in Italy and he is idolised by their fans.

if he would have gone to Man Utd rather than Tottenham then he may have realised his true potential.

best player for England in last 30 years debatable, I would say gerrard but very close.

If you could watch one of them play in their prime(live)today,who would you choose???

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6 hours ago, Lordofthebling said:

One of the most iconic, gifted footballers this country has ever had. 

His balance, his aggression and his passion - led him to be up there with the likes of Maradona at Italia 90.

He was my childhood hero, and one of 'us'.

I wish we had players today that played for the shirt like he did.

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Well said . 

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1 hour ago, Robert the bruce said:

If you could watch one of them play in their prime(live)today,who would you choose???

Yep gazza of course but I prefer watching maverick unpredictable player...that doesn't necessarily mean he has been the best, and I'm not trying to be controversial at all because I love the guy, but I also really enjoyed watching gerrard for much different reasons and based on all round game gerrard for me pips it.

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Just now, MC RISK77 said:

Yep gazza of course but I prefer watching maverick unpredictable player...that doesn't necessarily mean he has been the best, and I'm not trying to be controversial at all because I love the guy, but I also really enjoyed watching gerrard for much different reasons and based on all round game gerrard for me pips it.

It's a shame we couldn't of had gerrard and gazza I'm midfield. Instead of lampard and gerrard 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Markman said:

Getting old and cannot remember anything - did he ever play against us? I can't recall it if he did

I wouldn't of thought so

Posted
12 hours ago, shelts said:

The most gifted English player I have ever seen . His own worst enemy . A real shame to see him crippled by alcoholism a horrible disease 

As with many geniuses - flawed.

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11 hours ago, GasDestroyer said:

For those who don't know or remember what playing for your country meant!

 

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What a great picture, was at this game as well for the WC semi final.

This is what it meant 25 years ago playing for your country not any more.

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2 minutes ago, bakes said:

What a great picture, was at this game as well for the WC semi final.

This is what it meant 25 years ago playing for your country not any more.

Exactly the same was being said when Gazza and his mates were doing the Dentist Chair. Overpaid louts who were unprofessional and didn't care.

I don't buy all that BS. They cared then and they care now. When England lose big games it's down to lack of ability not lack of effort. Insulting to suggest otherwise...,,.pay packet size has got **** all to do with it.

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17 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Exactly the same was being said when Gazza and his mates were doing the Dentist Chair. Overpaid louts who were unprofessional and didn't care.

I don't buy all that BS. They cared then and they care now. When England lose big games it's down to lack of ability not lack of effort. Insulting to suggest otherwise...,,.pay packet size has got **** all to do with it.

Didn't look like they cared too much against Iceland last summer or was it lack of ability?

That team of 1990 would not have gone missing in action.

 

 

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Italia 90, England v Belgium, Platt goal to win the game. Gazza ran across to celebrate with the England fane. Never forgotten his reaction! Meant so much to him.

I was there.

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As I've said before that it would be a waste of time our getting Messi, as without having the players around him to read and work with him he would be nowhere near as good, so it was like watching Gazza in several poorly-attended England friendlies at the old Wembley mid 90s under Graham Taylor.

The tactics were summed up perfectly by my mate as "Give the ball to Gazza".  That was it, Gazza, a couple of goal hangers and seven players trying to win the ball to give it to Gazza in case he could pull off something spectacular.

I only saw him once in a competitive game, but what a game: England 4 Holland 1 Euro 96 at Wembley.  Made even sweeter because at lunchtime I was planning to watch it in the pub but then got a call from my MD who wanted someone to replace a dropout on corporate tickets.

 

I think / hope Gazza may be ok as he has gone into semi-retirement in a smal flat in a quiet south coast town, away from the bright lights and the fans wanting to buy him a beer. I know that there have been some drinking outbreaks since but they have been very infrequent and with tabloid reporters we would have heard all about them.

 

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Remember seeing him play for Spurs against Millwall at the old Den, ran the show and was superb, he was taking the Mickey out of the Millwall supporters and to be fair they were loving it, the other moment that stands out for me was his goal against Scotland, outstanding and that is hard to say coming from a Scot. It's sad to see his life turn out the way it has especially with all the enjoyment he has given us with his brilliance.

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6 hours ago, downendcity said:

As with many geniuses - flawed.

Totally agree . A little like our want away roly poly Tomlin who thinks he has Gascoines ability but couldn't tie up his laces. 

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Gerrard was a well-conditioned, disciplined footballer and character who fulfilled his potential.  See Beckham, Lampard, Rio Ferdinand for others in that mould.  They were finely tuned, talented footballers and fair play to them.

Gascoigne had the x-factor and it's almost as though he couldn't comply with the homing qualities necessary to fulfill his true potential, he had too much.  Had he done, he'd have been on the scale of a nuclear bomb in comparison to standard military artillery!  See Diego Maradona, Garrincha, Cantana and to a lesser extent Wayne Rooney for other players of the ilk.

Messi seems to have a good balance of rore ability and conformity with a process.

Tomlin, Jacki, JET verses (for example) Scott Murray, Tony Thorpe and, I dunno, Keith Welch seems a good local comparison of my point, here on otib.

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