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59 minutes ago, cityred exile said:

Watching the ice man sky , playing his first match since his last game  , also for Iceland ( wonder if he will score this time !)     Looking a little rusty  hardly surprising I suppose

WISHED I HAD A FEW QUID  HE WOULD SCORE THE  WINNER   AGAIN !

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1 hour ago, cityred exile said:

Watching the ice man sky , playing his first match since his last game  , also for Iceland ( wonder if he will score this time !)     Looking a little rusty  hardly surprising I suppose

Playing his first match since his last game!!! 

That will be the case with every player every match

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1 minute ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said:

Let's face it though, Lee knows **** all about the position his players play in :yawn:

Before Hordur signed Lee said that he was to play primarily as a central defender but he should be ready to play a few games as a left-back. He knows he can play the left-back position but the thing is Lee doesn't rate him.

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25 minutes ago, Benni said:

Before Hordur signed Lee said that he was to play primarily as a central defender but he should be ready to play a few games as a left-back. He knows he can play the left-back position but the thing is Lee doesn't rate him.

Lees decision. He gets paid for it and its a results business. He has used up all his excuses and all his chances so next season will reveal all.

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If we didn't already own Mags, I suggest we'd be delighted to sign him - a 24 year old goal scoring international defender; I'd be impressed if we landed a similar calibre player this summer.

What I cannot understand is LJ's insistence that 23 year old (24 in September) Joe Bryan can be a top-level left back, despite the majority of his time in that position being with Plymouth in League Two, and his more accomplished performances at this level being in midfield.

However, Mags (only 8 months older) is too stuck in his ways at centre back to be able to play left back, meaning he's out of the squad more often than not, yet he can regularly line up there and impress at international level - he helped keep the like of Perisic, Mandzukic, Modric and Kalinic quiet last night, and now has twice popped up with crucial winners.

Regular international who's side might yet make the World Cup next summer, and who has scored as many free kicks as Tomlin this season, and yet might be out in his arse before the next campaign- I don't understand it. 

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Makes me wonder if perhaps L J is confusing our Hordurs with the reality TV show about 'Hoarders' and 'loads of rubbish' ...

Magnusson, has just proved that when he 'Starts he can Finish'  (come on LJ it doesn't take a Mastermind to see that!)

Time to 'think outside of the box' Lee.

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8 hours ago, Benni said:

Before Hordur signed Lee said that he was to play primarily as a central defender but he should be ready to play a few games as a left-back. He knows he can play the left-back position but the thing is Lee doesn't rate him.

Then any decision made regarding Hordur by Lee might ultimately cost him his job if it's a wrong one. For example if Hordur jumps ship pastures ( and I wouldn't blame him) and he makes a roaring success of it with a rival, then there will be an outrage amongst fans and rightly so.

I don't think LJ will have any slack at all this season, last season is far to raw still. He has to get it it right from the word go with everything, new players, existing players, tactics etc. If LJ has any coaching/management ability Magnussons form should not have gone unnoticed 

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I didn't actually see the game yesterday, but if he looks like he could play left back comfortably, up against a player Man U are looking to sign we should definitely give him ago. 

Not sure I'd have him at centre back. Too weak for me, and his distribution isn't as good as some people would make it out to be.

Still, it was his first season in the championship so hopefully pushes on next season. 

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10 minutes ago, RedM said:

Then any decision made regarding Hordur by Lee might ultimately cost him his job if it's a wrong one. For example if Hordur jumps ship pastures ( and I wouldn't blame him) and he makes a roaring success of it with a rival, then there will be an outrage amongst fans and rightly so.

I don't think LJ will have any slack at all this season, last season is far to raw still. He has to get it it right from the word go with everything, new players, existing players, tactics etc. If LJ has any coaching/management ability Magnussons form should not have gone unnoticed 

:fingerscrossed:  We could give him till xmas though ?? :shifty:

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9 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

:fingerscrossed:  We could give him till xmas though ?? :shifty:

We could give him all the time in the world as long as things are working and there is progress and dare I say it stability, along with seemingly ability to use and motivate the players properly. As I said his every move will be scrutinised by the fans at a level not seen before. If he steps out of line and they will be calling for his head on a platter with a cherry on top.

Like the Tweet quoted says about Hordur/ Goldbourne in Lee's case he is either successful or not. There is no leeway ( no pun intended) in his case this coming season.

I personally want him to be successful, but if he really hasn't learnt from this season or isn't up to the job then I'm realistic enough and will call for his head as loud as anyone. I want my club to be successful after all.

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All this shows me that there are a lot of negatives to having lots of choice.  Rather than accepting his faults and working on them, LJ seems to be saying he's not good enough or versatile and will look to the transfer market for a quick fix. On the other hand, Iceland have a very small pool of players so he is being picked, clearly gaining confidence in a side that must have remarkable self belief with a strong team ethic.  I wonder which coach he respects the most?

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My understanding with Mags was that if he played a certain number of games in his first season for us, we would have to pay Juventus more money.

If other clubs aren't interested (for the right fee) Over the summer, I'm sure he will be a main stay next season.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, ColeCiderRed said:

My understanding with Mags was that if he played a certain number of games in his first season for us, we would have to pay Juventus more money.

If other clubs aren't interested (for the right fee) Over the summer, I'm sure he will be a main stay next season.

Interesting idea.  When he dropped out of the squad that seemed a particularly odd decision (injury time aside).  Through the middle of the season (when we were shipping goals) it would have been dangerous to have him on the bench as that would have put even more pressure on a beleaguered Lee Johnson - selecting him but not playing him.

But, I didn't think we were in a perilous financial situation where appearance related payments would hurt us - unless it was an absurd clause/charge.

Would really like to see him back in the starting 11.  He didn't do much wrong in the games I saw him play.

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16 minutes ago, ColeCiderRed said:

My understanding with Mags was that if he played a certain number of games in his first season for us, we would have to pay Juventus more money.

If other clubs aren't interested (for the right fee) Over the summer, I'm sure he will be a main stay next season.

 

 

Surely that can't be the reason he hardly featured later in the season.

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It must have been a hell of a fee if we sidelined a player to save money, meanwhile we played without him whilst paying him and probably unsettled him too. Oh and of course we bought another player in* Real saving that must have been, and could be disastrous in the long run too.

*I'm not suggesting it wasn't right to bring Bailey Wright in btw.

But yes, I agree that sometimes our club seems to have no logic

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1 hour ago, ColeCiderRed said:

My understanding with Mags was that if he played a certain number of games in his first season for us, we would have to pay Juventus more money.

If other clubs aren't interested (for the right fee) Over the summer, I'm sure he will be a main stay next season.

 

 

That was the rumour but, as RedM says, it must have been a seriously large fee in the clause for us to drop him?

Do we know if said clause still applies next season?

The other thing, if this clause, as rumoured, is true, is that Magners wasn't purchased with the expectation of playing so many games as he did? I find the idea that clubs like us, would sign players from Juve and not play them a tad daft TBH. It sounds like a poorly drafted contract if that clause is correct and of no benefit to the club or the player.

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54 minutes ago, Red Army Faction said:

Mags scores a winner.  Let's use this as an opportunity to slag off LJ.  What next?  LJ doesn't select the right beach towel for his holiday? Give the bloke the summer off at least!

Well done Mags.

Not really I think the frustration is we were weak in both fullback positions all season whilst we had an international left back getting no game time. We should of at least tried him there. 

Hopefully we'll see more of him next season 

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Just now, WolfOfWestStreet said:

So he kept a clean sheet and scored the winner against a team that includes one of the worlds best midfielders who has just lifted his third champikns league trophy ... 

But he can't get in the team to play Ipswich...

Something wrong here. 

Has he done a 'Hegeler' and said 'I' a left back / CH' and it doesn't suit the team? The rumoured clause is genuine? Definitely something has gone on.

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28 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Has he done a 'Hegeler' and said 'I' a left back / CH' and it doesn't suit the team? The rumoured clause is genuine? Definitely something has gone on.

Lj called him out against preston even though we were 4 0 down when he came on. 

If he doesnt rate him, even though it was his signing, then he needs to be sold. 

But would rather see johnson **** off to be honest 

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Just now, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Lj called him out against preston even though we were 4 0 down when he came on. 

If he doesnt rate him, even though it was his signing, then he needs to be sold. 

But would rather see johnson **** off to be honest 

I'm in agreement there WoWS! 

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18 hours ago, Maltshoveller said:

Playing his first match since his last game!!! 

That will be the case with every player every match

Not necessarily, the player could be playing their first match ever in which case they wouldn't have played any previous games.

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I am not a stato, but I think our form was abysmal when he had a run in the side and picked up when he was dropped? Maybe someone can check that who likes looking at the stat’s?

It may just be that he is a good player (I think he is), but was not right for the side we had at the time. I certainly dont see Baily Wright as an improvement, but overall our form did pick up with him in the side.

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8 hours ago, BCFC1990 said:

 I think the frustration is we were weak in both fullback positions all season whilst we had an international left back getting no game time. We should of at least tried him there. 

Danny Rose, Peter Stybar and now Hordur....what is it about left backs that no one knew were left backs at Bristol City - some sort of cloaking device?

 

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