Ollie Watkins v Tamara Diedhiou

[hoxton casual]

Watkins £1.8m v Diedhiou £5.3?

On tonights performance no contest who was the better value. Hope Famara comes good and in his defence he got no decent service.

[Edge1981]

Who is this Tamara you speak of?

[Phileas Fogg]

It's one game in isolation so barely worth commenting on.

[Spoons]

19 minutes ago, hoxton casual said:

Watkins £1.8m v Diedhiou £5.3?

On tonights performance no contest who was the better value. Hope Famara comes good and in his defence he got no decent service.

Are you trying to take the crown for most negative and deluded poster in the history of otib? 

Trying to compare these two strikers shows your complete lack of knowledge of the game and is just another way of trying to attack LJ ! Your basically saying you would have signed Watkins and not deidhuio? 

3/4 games in CALM DOWN.

[David Brent]

Is this another 'joke'?

Why not compare, if you must, Watkins' performance tonight to Diedhiou's home performance vs Barnsley.

[hoxton casual]

All I am saying is Watkins very impressive tonight and cost a lot less than Diedhiou. Do you not want posters  to say that when that is what they saw? 

 

Ok Diedhiou played out of his skin and all the Brentford players were donkeys. Is that better? Woukd anyone like to debate on here or just throw insults?

[Red Ferret]

Ok, I'm gonna get ready for the otib hate machine...here we go...

 

Famara is no way worth £5m. He looks very poor so far. He is a target man, which is how he was played at Angers,  but for a guy his size he just doesnt impose himself or worry defenders.  He can't play quick passes (always wants four or five touches) and can't seem to hold the ball up in a way that benefits us when we attack.

 

Sure he has scored a headed goal vs Barnsley,  but most of the time he doesnt seem to win anything in the air.

 

I'm hoping he is "rusty"  or "adapting to this league" or whatever,  but early signs are he is not Championship quality. Hoping I am wrong and he shows in time he is worth the money, but over the three games I have seen him in so far - no way.  He just doesnt look comfortable out there. 

 

[allyolly]

48 minutes ago, Red Ferret said:

Ok, I'm gonna get ready for the otib hate machine...here we go...

 

Famara is no way worth £5m. He looks very poor so far. He is a target man, which is how he was played at Angers,  but for a guy his size he just doesnt impose himself or worry defenders.  He can't play quick passes (always wants four or five touches) and can't seem to hold the ball up in a way that benefits us when we attack.

 

Sure he has scored a headed goal vs Barnsley,  but most of the time he doesnt seem to win anything in the air.

 

I'm hoping he is "rusty"  or "adapting to this league" or whatever,  but early signs are he is not Championship quality. Hoping I am wrong and he shows in time he is worth the money, but over the three games I have seen him in so far - no way.  He just doesnt look comfortable out there. 

 

No hate coming here! Just don't agree with your post. 

I do think he is more than a target man. See the trickery on Saturday for our first goal. 

It was also said that FD would bring into play more players to score and Bobby Reid is surely a significant beneficiary? 

Still early days. I would prefer to back him with everything we've got to be honest and see where that takes us. 

[Red Ferret]

I do back the fellow, and want him to score and succeed. Would love to hold my hands up in a few months time and say "I was wrong, we've got a good un" but I just can't see it from what I've seen so far.  Cant put my finger on it...he just doesnt look comfortable.  Hoping that changes 

[Red Army 75]

3 games . I remember when kodjia signed. He wasn't that great to begin with. Poor performance from the midfield and front men last night apparently. We've scored 6 league goals in 3 games. I don't think he will get 20 goals. But I think other players will get more goals around him. He does seem to be a 1 half player at the moment. But let's give him time. New club, country, surroundings,league. As for Watkins it's a shame we didn't go /get him 

[robinreliant]

4 hours ago, Red Ferret said:

I do back the fellow, and want him to score and succeed. Would love to hold my hands up in a few months time and say "I was wrong, we've got a good un" but I just can't see it from what I've seen so far.  Cant put my finger on it...he just doesnt look comfortable.  Hoping that changes 

I see your frustration but the same was said about Paul Cheesley when he was signed from Norwich and he didn't turn out too bad. Needs to be given time and the team also

[GrahamC]

Think in light of the Đurić injury and the Engvall farce (sending him out on loan when we are so short), we needed both.

[samo II]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think in light of the Đurić injury and the Engvall farce (sending him out on loan when we are so short), we needed both.

With Đurić out it does seem weird Engvall was loaned.

Would obviously love it if Hinds ended up being able to step up, and Lord knows Bobby is doing his best to fill the void, but think it is clear now we need another body in, ideally a big lad.

Just isn't ideal to have an ex-midfielder and kid on the bench when we need to go for a goal (though full credit where it is due to Bobby).

[westonred]

Christ its only 4 games gone and its started:  Fam has set up 2 goals and scored 1 Lets give the guy a chance and get off his back. No wonder players are reluctant to come to BCFC when they get slagged off from our own fans 

[And Its Smith]

8 minutes ago, westonred said:

Christ its only 4 games gone and its started:  Fam has set up 2 goals and scored 1 Lets give the guy a chance and get off his back. No wonder players are reluctant to come to BCFC when they get slagged off from our own fans 

Who has slagged him off ? Any negativity is on a forum anyway. Nobody was moaning about him last night that he could head. Only support from the fans 

[Jacki]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to make the comparison beween the two players based on last night, albeit that it was a sample of just one game. I really don't understand why people get so upset about people debating this kind of stuff. It's a forum and comparing players is a perfectly valid thing to talk about after a game. 

I thought Watkins looked a really good player last night. He was quick, tricky and direct and a thorn in our side all night. Exactly the kind of player we should be after to fit our model. 

Famara, meanwhile, was feeding off the scraps of non existent service, but he did look off the pace. I look forward to watching him at home when we're on the front foot to see what he's really capable of. 

[Red Army 75]

Famara, meanwhile, was feeding off the scraps of non existent service, but he did look off the pace. I look forward to watching him at home when we're on the front foot to see what he's really capable of. 

Very good point 

[GrahamC]

20 minutes ago, samo II said:

With Đurić out it does seem weird Engvall was loaned.

Would obviously love it if Hinds ended up being able to step up, and Lord knows Bobby is doing his best to fill the void, but think it is clear now we need another body in, ideally a big lad.

Just isn't ideal to have an ex-midfielder and kid on the bench when we need to go for a goal (though full credit where it is due to Bobby).

My guess would be that with around £10m spent (!) on the striker, Baker and Eliasson and at present no sign of Flint going to help to balance the books, that it may well end up being the likes of Omar Bogle (cue OTIB meltdown) because we are close to being "spent out".

Not changing my mind on Engvall, I just believe LJ doesn't rate him and so won't give him a chance. On that basis (his view, not mine) he should have sold him back to Sweden then as there obviously was interest. To end up with a midfielder (who has done brilliantly) and an 18 year old making his debut after we took off Diedhiou, is simply shocking planning.

That would also explain the Icelandic keeper coming on trial, another low cost option.

[Ray White]

If you speak to Exeter fans they will tell you Watkins isn't consistent. He will play a blinder one game and the next 4 offer very little. I suspect we caught him on a good day.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

7 hours ago, Edge1981 said:

Who is this Tamara you speak of?

And does she have big knockers?

[Chappers]

The Exeter fans I work with rate Watkins very highly and think he is the real deal.

[eric04]

Two very different players.

That said, baffling that we didn't go for Watkins. Seems exactly the sort of player to fit our DNA. I've watched him several times now and he seems to have a bit of everything and he's still young. I'll be shocked if Brentford don't make a massive profit on him. 

[Port Said Red]

I make it 1 goal and 3 assists so far, I know he didn't directly assist the Birmingham goal, but he set it up with the best bit of skill we have seen from him so far. 

New league, new country, new team mates and a lot of pressure because of the price tag, I am struggling to see why this isn't enough for people so far.

[bristolcity]

I agree with PSR, I think our forwards have done their jobs, if he continues in the same form would get around 15 goals this season which would be a good return for a 'Target Man' type....

I was keen for us to sign Watkins but for whatever reason Johnson didn't fancy him at £1.8m which i find a little odd, as others have mentioned seems exactly the kind of player we should be signing.

[Major Isewater]

33 minutes ago, Chappers said:

The Exeter fans I work with rate Watkins very highly and think he is the real deal.

I don't know any Exeter fans and they all think he's crap .

[Major Isewater]

7 minutes ago, bristolcity said:

I agree with PSR, I think our forwards have done their jobs, if he continues in the same form would get around 15 goals this season which would be a good return for a 'Target Man' type....

I was keen for us to sign Watkins but for whatever reason Johnson didn't fancy him at £1.8m which i find a little odd, as others have mentioned seems exactly the kind of player we should be signing.

1.8 million wasn't enough , that's why we went for Fammy . 

[samo II]

44 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

My guess would be that with around £10m spent (!) on the striker, Baker and Eliasson and at present no sign of Flint going to help to balance the books, that it may well end up being the likes of Omar Bogle (cue OTIB meltdown) because we are close to being "spent out".

Not changing my mind on Engvall, I just believe LJ doesn't rate him and so won't give him a chance. On that basis (his view, not mine) he should have sold him back to Sweden then as there obviously was interest. To end up with a midfielder (who has done brilliantly) and an 18 year old making his debut after we took off Diedhiou, is simply shocking planning.

That would also explain the Icelandic keeper coming on trial, another low cost option.

That may be a factor, though I must say; I don't begrudge the club holding out for a decent fee for Flint, as it would neither be the worst thing in the world to have him still in the squad, nor set a good precedent to release our players for less than we need.

Diedhiou is still an unknown for me; can't really knock his involvement so far, as three assists/involvements in goals and a goal for himself isn't bad going in this league for a player new to it, but £5 million price tag does mean he'll need to be top-tier to justify that long term.

As for cut price recruitments; I was advocating last year for building a side that would allow our promising young players time to get real league game experience, which I guess is taking place almost by accident with Hinds!

But it is the non-intentional aspect of this that worries me a bit.  Bobby is clearly applying himself wholeheartedly to his new role, and I think you'd find even his greatest detractors would agree he is undroppable at this moment.  But unless Taylor's recovery speeds up tremendously (and he finds the ruthless scoring touch at this level he didn't display last year) or Diedhiou hits form (entirely possible tbf), when Bobby's purple patch does slow, we can't surely be thinking Hinds will be the logical alternative, unless he also blows the bloody doors off in his next few cameos.

Part of me wonders if the like of Vassell and other potential striking targets have maybe ended priced out of our range, and the decision will be made to 'make do' until all our options return either from loans or to fitness around late September through early November?

After that, we have time to assess our need and then January to improve the options we have.  Biggest miss is Đurić, for me; losing Wilbs mean we simply don't have the option to go direct once Famara has tired, and being most of our goals are second phase finishes off rebounds, that will be an issue.

[Phileas Fogg]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

My guess would be that with around £10m spent (!) on the striker, Baker and Eliasson and at present no sign of Flint going to help to balance the books, that it may well end up being the likes of Omar Bogle (cue OTIB meltdown) because we are close to being "spent out".

Interesting really that so many people are dead set against Bogle but so in favour of Vassell. Bogle is only just over a year older, has a superior goal scoring record, has actually played at this level and probably available for less than half the price Vassell was.

[shelts]

I like what I've seen of the big man so far , a friendly, a league game and a cup game. All round good footballer and too early to judge if he's the daddy 

[Dastardly and Muttley]

I'll caveat this by saying that I wasn't there, but a neutral Sky match report states "Brentford's defence looked brittle every time when tested by live wire striker Famara Diedhiou."

Link here: http://www.skysports.com/football/brentford-vs-bristol-c/374645

[Phileas Fogg]

9 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

All I am saying is Watkins very impressive tonight and cost a lot less than Diedhiou. Do you not want posters  to say that when that is what they saw? 

 

Ok Diedhiou played out of his skin and all the Brentford players were donkeys. Is that better? Woukd anyone like to debate on here or just throw insults?

It's fine to critique him - but to actively compare him to Watkins on the basis of one game is a bit unfair.

Of course Diedhiou would be worth more, he was playing in the French top flight and is still pretty young whereas Watkins is only tested in L2.

I really like what I've seen of Famara so far, but the other challenge he's got is adapting to a new country, language, style of football.. these are things that Watkins doesn't have to deal with in the same way. They're also different positions really, Watkins is more of a number 10 type.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

10 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It's one game in isolation so barely worth commenting on.

I agree with you entirely, but surely there must be a question mark about the bizarre timing of Engvall's release back to Sweden, Đurić out for sometime, Taylor still not ready and Diedhiou looking way out of his depth last night, is Engvall really that poor?.

[Edge1981]

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

I agree with you entirely, but surely there must be a question mark about the bizarre timing of Engvall's release back to Sweden, Đurić out for sometime, Taylor still not ready and Diedhiou looking way out of his depth last night, is Engvall really that poor?.

I can only think we have someone lined up...

[Esmond Million's Bung]

Just now, Edge1981 said:

I can only think we have someone lined up...

Then do what we are doing with Flint, sign the replacement first, it is a bizarre situation seemingly of our own making again.

[Phileas Fogg]

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

I agree with you entirely, but surely there must be a question mark about the bizarre timing of Engvall's release back to Sweden, Đurić out for sometime, Taylor still not ready and Diedhiou looking way out of his depth last night, is Engvall really that poor?.

Yep that's definitely worth questioning.

We shouldn't be a situation where we've got 5 senior strikers on our books where we're filling the bench with an 18 year old who's never played at the level.

You can't account for injuries to an extent, but it makes the Engvall timing a bit bizarre; I totally understand why we want to loan him back though. Maybe we thought the Vassell thing was a going to happen.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Yep that's definitely worth questioning.

We shouldn't be a situation where we've got 5 senior strikers on our books where we're filling the bench with an 18 year old who's never played at the level.

You can't account for injuries to an extent, but it makes the Engvall timing a bit bizarre; I totally understand why we want to loan him back though. Maybe we thought the Vassell thing was a going to happen.

In the 21st century modern rivers of money total business called 'professional' football, there is no room for thought, that is unprofessional.

We are trying to put behind us the poor decision making of the past and outwardly trying to appear that we are a more professional outfit, this particular decision doesn't display that image to me.

[1bristolcity]

10 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

All I am saying is Watkins very impressive tonight and cost a lot less than Diedhiou. Do you not want posters  to say that when that is what they saw? 

 

Ok Diedhiou played out of his skin and all the Brentford players were donkeys. Is that better? Woukd anyone like to debate on here or just throw insults?

Just eff off that's what I really want you to do.

[Phileas Fogg]

2 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

In the 21st century modern rivers of money total business called 'professional' football, there is no room for thought, that is unprofessional.

We are trying to put behind us the poor decision making of the past and outwardly trying to appear that we are a more professional outfit, this particular decision doesn't display that image to me.

Agree - who knows what went on. Either way, we shouldn't be in a situation where our 3 forwards are Hinds (youth player) Diedhiou (new to the country and not totally match fit) and Reid (converted midfielder). Regardless of their form, that's not really rich pickings.

Hope we bring in a forward this week.

[Spud55]

8 hours ago, Red Ferret said:

I do back the fellow, and want him to score and succeed. Would love to hold my hands up in a few months time and say "I was wrong, we've got a good un" but I just can't see it from what I've seen so far.  Cant put my finger on it...he just doesnt look comfortable.  Hoping that changes 

I know what you mean, but I dont think we can expect him to be a target man in the Đurić, Wilbs sense, where you can pump balls up to him and expect him to win everything in the air, I don't think he's that type of player, he's best receiving the ball into feet, or being on the end of crosses.  I don't think he will do particularly well at all if we hump balls up to him, but what I think he will do exceptionally well is if the ball is played into feet and the players around him break forward and get beyond him.

That for me is where his strength lies, if we are going to pump balls up to him all season then we really have utterly wasted 5 million quid.

[Buckeyed]

10 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

All I am saying is Watkins very impressive tonight and cost a lot less than Diedhiou. Do you not want posters  to say that when that is what they saw? 

Why not just praise Watkins and not slag off our players then? 

The fact we are still looking for an attacking player suggests that we didn't forego signing Watkins for Diedhiou.

[Wheatus is back]

11 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

Watkins £1.8m v Diedhiou £5.3?

On tonights performance no contest who was the better value. Hope Famara comes good and in his defence he got no decent service.

Get a life , its 1 game , come the end of the season is the time to compare .

[LondonBristolian]

9 hours ago, allyolly said:

No hate coming here! Just don't agree with your post. 

I do think he is more than a target man. See the trickery on Saturday for our first goal. 

It was also said that FD would bring into play more players to score and Bobby Reid is surely a significant beneficiary? 

Still early days. I would prefer to back him with everything we've got to be honest and see where that takes us. 

Same here. Whether he's worth £5 million, I don't know. The market is ridiculously over-inflated of course but we knew that anyway. And it may well be he is not going to prove to be a 20 goal a season man like Kodjia and Abraham. 

But he actually impressed me last night in terms of his work ethic and commitment and I thought he did as well as anyone could last night when he spent most of the game completely isolated an not receiving the ball. A few times actually showed a lot of strength and managed to beat/hold off one or two players only to find there was absolutely no one around him and he wound up losing it as a result. What we learned last night is he is not the type of player you can punt the ball up to and expect to do everything on his own. But I don't necessarily expect him to be. Get fast,. technical players playing up close to him and he could be a real asset. 

[LondonBristolian]

59 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

I'll caveat this by saying that I wasn't there, but a neutral Sky match report states "Brentford's defence looked brittle every time when tested by live wire striker Famara Diedhiou."

Link here: http://www.skysports.com/football/brentford-vs-bristol-c/374645

I was there and don't disagree with it. It wasn't tested that often though. The other thing is, start of the second half, Famara was all over the pitch, dropping back to make tackles, winning the ball in midfield etc. Obviously the fact he was in that position was a testament to poor service but he worked exceptionally hard but just didn't have the players around him.

Ultimately none of Paterson, Brownhill or - until his late and crucial intervention - Reid managed to get into the game last night. I like all of them as players and don't want to get on their backs - it just wasn't their night and maybe the formation did not work - but there was a gaping hole between Pack and Smith deep in midfield and Famara upfront and that, as much as anything, was why Famara was not as effective as he might have been.

[Ashton98]

I watched Watkins play around 10 times last season and I dint even think he stood out that much in the Exeter team.  He goes missing in large spells of the game. He is not as skillfull as fam and doesn't have the hold up play. He did score 20 goals but he played he in Exeter team who was very attacking and created load of chances. Exeter fans was a lot more gutted in losing Ethan Ampadu 

[samo II]

Is a shame we didn't fancy Watkins if he's now ripping it up at Brentford, but harsh to like-for-like him with Diedhiou - may turn out to be worth every penny; he's starter okay, and plenty of the season to show more.

[bearded_red]

I expect Pisano will be a doubt for Saturday as I'm pretty sure he will still be dizzy from the runaround Watkins gave him.

[Flagon]

I think it's difficult to judge players when as a whole the team was outplayed last night. You could argue that Fielding is world class based on last nights heroics but we all know in reality he's competent enough at this level with some pretty consistent bad stuff too e.g distribution.

We defend and attack as a team. Even if Diedhiou had played a blinder last night if the rest of the team aren't on it, it's unlikely to make a difference. They did what they could last night against some very good football away from home and thankfully held out enough to sramble something out of it. 

In the little we've all seen of Diedhiou so far he looks like he will prove a real handful and he's scored already plus contributed to other goals. 

[Guest skinster]

Hes the next Emile Heskey !!!

[shelts]

1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

He didnt play in the cup.

He was in the squad and sub, i watched him in the warm up and doing his stretches . I've seen enough 

[Robson]

12 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

All I am saying is Watkins very impressive tonight and cost a lot less than Diedhiou. Do you not want posters  to say that when that is what they saw? 

 

Ok Diedhiou played out of his skin and all the Brentford players were donkeys. Is that better? Woukd anyone like to debate on here or just throw insults?

Woukd

[Leveller]

3 hours ago, samo II said:

Is a shame we didn't fancy Watkins if he's now ripping it up at Brentford, but harsh to like-for-like him with Diedhiou - may turn out to be worth every penny; he's starter okay, and plenty of the season to show more.

Who says we didn't fancy him? LJ's recent comments suggest we did.

Perhaps we didn't fancy him "at any price", or he preferred Brentford / London. Who knows.

[Inactive user]

15 hours ago, hoxton casual said:

Watkins £1.8m v Diedhiou £5.3?

On tonights performance no contest who was the better value. Hope Famara comes good and in his defence he got no decent service.

I know you and I are probably in the minority (I'm used to that) but there's no denying what you say.

Pound for pound Watkins looked the better value by a country mile.

[CotswoldRed]

12 hours ago, westonred said:

Christ its only 4 games gone and its started:  Fam has set up 2 goals and scored 1 Lets give the guy a chance and get off his back. No wonder players are reluctant to come to BCFC when they get slagged off from our own fans 

No player is reluctant to come here because of OTIB. Unless you know better. 

[RobintheRed Red]

16 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

3 games . I remember when kodjia signed. He wasn't that great to begin with. Poor performance from the midfield and front men last night apparently. We've scored 6 league goals in 3 games. I don't think he will get 20 goals. But I think other players will get more goals around him. He does seem to be a 1 half player at the moment. But let's give him time. New club, country, surroundings,league. As for Watkins it's a shame we didn't go /get him 

just what we needed watkins target man pacey an cheap

[Gert Mare]

Ollie Watkins was superb last night. A constant threat. However, bit harsh on Fam. He's not used to playing English football. Give him a bit of time to settle.

[Davefevs]

14 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Interesting really that so many people are dead set against Bogle but so in favour of Vassell. Bogle is only just over a year older, has a superior goal scoring record, has actually played at this level and probably available for less than half the price Vassell was.

I wasn't in favour of either of them!

11 hours ago, Flagon said:

I think it's difficult to judge players when as a whole the team was outplayed last night. You could argue that Fielding is world class based on last nights heroics but we all know in reality he's competent enough at this level with some pretty consistent bad stuff too e.g distribution.

We defend and attack as a team. Even if Diedhiou had played a blinder last night if the rest of the team aren't on it, it's unlikely to make a difference. They did what they could last night against some very good football away from home and thankfully held out enough to sramble something out of it. 

In the little we've all seen of Diedhiou so far he looks like he will prove a real handful and he's scored already plus contributed to other goals. 

Good post.  Looked like an off-night for us and the kind of super-home performance from Brentford.  I'm sure a lot of people thought Ike Ugbo was crap compared to Diedhiou in the first game of the season.  Can't really compare individual performances, but of course fine to debate...it's a forum.

10 hours ago, skinster said:

Hes the next Emile Heskey !!!

A very underrated player.  You don't play that many games for England if you're not very good.  I once saw him batter and completely dominate Sol Campbell for Liverpool v Spurs.  You ask Michael Owen who he liked playing alongside for Liverpool and England!  For me, Heskey's downside was his confidence.  Not in his footballing ability, but his inability to play unless he felt he was 100% fit.  On song, he was a very tidy player.

23 minutes ago, RobintheRed Red said:

just what we needed watkins target man pacey an cheap

Where did he play last night.  Transfer market suggests left of a forward three in a 4231.  Commentary suggested he peeled onto Pisano.  Doesn't sound like a target man in the conventional sense.  Happy to be corrected.

[RobintheRed Red]

10 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I wasn't in favour of either of them!

Good post.  Looked like an off-night for us and the kind of super-home performance from Brentford.  I'm sure a lot of people thought Ike Ugbo was crap compared to Diedhiou in the first game of the season.  Can't really compare individual performances, but of course fine to debate...it's a forum.

A very underrated player.  You don't play that many games for England if you're not very good.  I once saw him batter and completely dominate Sol Campbell for Liverpool v Spurs.  You ask Michael Owen who he liked playing alongside for Liverpool and England!  For me, Heskey's downside was his confidence.  Not in his footballing ability, but his inability to play unless he felt he was 100% fit.  On song, he was a very tidy player.

Where did he play last night.  Transfer market suggests left of a forward three in a 4231.  Commentary suggested he peeled onto Pisano.  Doesn't sound like a target man in the conventional sense.  Happy to be corrected.

No maybe so but did you see who he left on the floor when smashing that header in yes pissano from inside the penalty area

[alexukhc]

Tamara? Had her

[WhistleHappy]

3 hours ago, alexukhc said:

Tamara?

Yeah, ....or the day after that.

[petehinton]

Am i the only one struggling to find any negatives to Diedhou?? Fits into the team like he's been here years. Every game he's been a threat, great in the air, strong, quick...

Or do we need him to score 3 a game to be good? Seems like a lot people only really had Watkins on our radar because he was at Exeter, we have some sort of right to sign him because he was local....