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Posted

Some people think its all over.........not quite...more pain to come yet.

Posted

Crap showing shambles . Both teams rubbish . If your playing crap and you get to half time still level good time to change things around but nope . Atleast we give millwall a point and they should go home happy and quietly.

Posted

Was poor but probably a bit over dramatic. We'd have lost that last year 100%. Think we are much better defensively which is a plus. That said it seems the concerns about our goals is proving valid. No threat from the midfield or the strikers. Hopefully we can get Eliasson up to speed soon as Brownhill and Pato just too inconsistent going forward. For all that has been said about Bobby, he still looked most likely to make something happen. Need more from Fam. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

The main problem is having to sit through 90 minutes like that today. Don't go to football to watch that shit.

Posted

Circa 20 million spent and that's the best the clown can come up with. Take the who 90 minutes against Brentford, 45 against Brum and Barnsley and it's the same old shit.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

Nah the rubbish management selection will do that, all by themselves, its got NOTHING to do with us

Posted
1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said:

Was poor but probably a bit over dramatic. We'd have lost that last year 100%. Think we are much better defensively which is a plus. That said it seems the concerns about our goals is proving valid. No threat from the midfield or the strikers. Hopefully we can get Eliasson up to speed soon as Brownhill and Pato just too inconsistent going forward. For all that has been said about Bobby, he still looked most likely to make something happen. Need more from Fam. 

Agree that Baker, Pisano and Wright were warriors at the back today. Just need to find 5 or 6 in front of them!!

Posted
4 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

Bollox

Posted
3 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

True 

 

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

The main problem is having to sit through 90 minutes like that today. Don't go to football to watch that shit.

And true. 

Awful football today. Don't discredit millwall. Slowed it down from the start and played their game. Think easier to play that style and do well. We have to be more consistent. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

And that is part of the problem, would you give LJ anymore money to spend?, take a look at the bench at the cost of players who ain't good enough.

He'd probably buy more strikers instead of the midfielders that we so dearly need.

Posted
1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Agree that Baker, Pisano and Wright were warriors at the back today. Just need to find 5 or 6 in front of them!!

Exactly. Losing 1-0 wouldn't have been unfair but we did keep them out in the end. Fair play to Frankie as well. Showed his good traits today when we needed. Won't talk about his kicking though. 

Just don't know why we lost our energy and urgency. Maybe too many games early on for us to keep that pace. Need our last transfers through if any more and get everyone settled in the squad so we can make a few changes at points during the season. Say Woodrow for Fam and Eliasson for Pato for example. Don't want to chop and change too much but clear we need to change a bit to keep that energy. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

It's not the constant negativity that will stop the club being successful,it's the bloke running the team who will do that

Posted
6 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Was poor but probably a bit over dramatic. We'd have lost that last year 100%. Think we are much better defensively which is a plus. That said it seems the concerns about our goals is proving valid. No threat from the midfield or the strikers. Hopefully we can get Eliasson up to speed soon as Brownhill and Pato just too inconsistent going forward. For all that has been said about Bobby, he still looked most likely to make something happen. Need more from Fam. 

You can blame players all you like but they didn't bring themselves here, or select themselves and shouldn't Eli be up to speed or why sign him? stop avoiding the real problem.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

Not sure what trip that post is wired into but ... When has a forum ever cost a team a point?

Posted
3 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Exactly. Losing 1-0 wouldn't have been unfair but we did keep them out in the end. Fair play to Frankie as well. Showed his good traits today when we needed. Won't talk about his kicking though. 

I love you as a poster Joe, I think you know the game very well.... but the last line annoys me so much. 

Why criticise FF for his kicking when it's just as good as everyone else in our team who just sends it long. Every ****** is doing it from the back and it can't be coincidence, it has to be our tactics. If Frankie finds touch then it's a damn sight better than our centre halves finding one of their players so that the ball can come back with interest. 

Frankie won us that point today, just like Tuesday, but people are too quick to get on his back rather than anyone else's. Shall we try the bloke who chooses the tactics?

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Sixtyseconds said:

Not sure what trip that post is wired into but ... When has a forum ever cost a team a point?

in one, its just a few of BCFC`s fans expressing their opinions, nothing more. 

Posted
Just now, Raging_Robin said:

All facts. Full of drama queens. 

So negativity leads to performances like that rather than people accepting mediocrity?

It is not those of us questioning holding the club back it's the ******* sea lions clapping any old shit because it's City.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, RumRed said:

So negativity leads to performances like that rather than people accepting mediocrity?

It is not those of us questioning holding the club back it's the ******* sea lions clapping any old shit because it's City.

 

Mate, i'd take mediocrity so badly right now. 

Posted
1 minute ago, RumRed said:

So negativity leads to performances like that rather than people accepting mediocrity?

It is not those of us questioning holding the club back it's the ******* sea lions clapping any old shit because it's City.

 

Like, like, like...like ........and ignoring the real cause

Posted
1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

I love you as a poster Joe, I think you know the game very well.... but the last line annoys me so much. 

Why criticise FF for his kicking when it's just as good as everyone else in our team who just sends it long. Every ****** is doing it from the back and it can't be coincidence, it has to be our tactics. If Frankie finds touch then it's a damn sight better than our centre halves finding one of their players so that the ball can come back with interest. 

Frankie won us that point today, just like Tuesday, but people are too quick to get on his back rather than anyone else's. Shall we try the bloke who chooses the tactics?

 

Nothing to do with FF today. Outplayed lucky to get a point. Also we lack height in our team. Outmuscled. Also COD has had enough time now for me . Just doesn't affect the game enough. Thought it would be perfect for eliasson to come on . Give the crowd a lift. But poor all round today 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

All facts. Full of drama queens. 

OK my friend let me introduce just a little reality for you then, our next 5 league games:-

Villa H

Reading A

Wolves A

Derby H

Norwich A

The only good thing about that list that 'some' people can copy and paste "did you honestly expect anything from this game" at end of each 90 minutes.

Posted
5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

It's not the constant negativity that will stop the club being successful,it's the bloke running the team who will do that

Yes, but it's the bloke running the club behind that.  The same bloke who for over a decade has promised Premiership football, but clearly isn't committed, given the continuing shambles of coaching and recruitment staff, and the unwillingness to spend what is necessary on players or bring in other investors.  

Can see little change at Ashton Gate under his stewardship.  Same old, same old.  We will be lucky to escape relegation back to our comfort zone of division three AGAIN,.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

OK my friend let me introduce just a little reality for you then, our next 5 league games:-

Villa H

Reading A

Wolves A

Derby H

Norwich A

The only good thing about that list that 'some' people can copy and paste "did you honestly expect anything from this game" at end of each 90 minutes.

Cant see to many points there still.......there`s always hope...for some.

Posted
Just now, Raging_Robin said:

Here we go, "happy clappy". 

Facts are, we've lost 1 in 4 and we sit mid table. 

Try and argue it as much as you like, those are the facts. 

And we're shit.  Not enjoyable to watch and heading back to the third division with our greatest spend ever.  You keep clapping mate.

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

Here we go, "happy clappy". 

Facts are, we've lost 1 in 4 and we sit mid table. 

Try and argue it as much as you like, those are the facts. 

Those are some of the facts but sadly not the important ones

Posted
15 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

What's the problem. 1 loss in 4, 3 points to 5th. The transfer window is still open with a big fee to come for Flint.

Everyone on this forum seemed to be happy with a mid table finish at the beginning of the season, and that's where we are. 

The constant negativity is why this club will never succeed. 

The problem is we're still dropping points and not winning games we need to be, the season is only 4 games in and we're yet to play any real top half teams. Birmingham are shite and we lost to them after taking the lead, Millwall are shite and we did nothing against them at home and Barnsley look like a team who could end up sat at 24th if they don't improve as the season goes on. It's not even the results, it's the performance, today was poor on all counts, we gave away 7 corners in the first 20 minutes, we didn't have a shot on target until the second half and all in all we looked no better than Millwall at all.
I'm all for being positive but I see no change from last season, we're mediocre and one week we turn up and the next we don't, the manager STILL doesn't seem to know what his tactics are and when he talks he sounds very professional but doesn't actually offer **** all insight at all. 

I really wanted LJ to change my mind, the result at Barnsley was nice but from that game onwards we have not looked good which leads me to believe that Barnsley made us look better than we are.

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Posted

Don't know what game most people  on here were watching but the millwall keeper had a easy day, played ourselves into trouble  in defence, no midfield and a very lightweight attack, Big improvement needed for villa game

Posted

I feel like we've been screaming out for a real top class championship centre midfielder for the past 2 years now, hope we will see one come in with the Flint money

Posted
3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

I love you as a poster Joe, I think you know the game very well.... but the last line annoys me so much. 

Why criticise FF for his kicking when it's just as good as everyone else in our team who just sends it long. Every ****** is doing it from the back and it can't be coincidence, it has to be our tactics. If Frankie finds touch then it's a damn sight better than our centre halves finding one of their players so that the ball can come back with interest. 

Frankie won us that point today, just like Tuesday, but people are too quick to get on his back rather than anyone else's. Shall we try the bloke who chooses the tactics?

 

True I probably shouldn't have but think it set the tone early when we had goal kicks. FF took his time when he could've been a bit quicker. Instead he took his time and had to push the team up the pitch. Then his kicks didn't make it near anyone, it invited them back into our box. This helped lead to think 11 first half corners for them. 

The game plan has to be an XI. FF saved us a point today no doubt but imo, didn't help with the high energy quick passing game from the back. There was one occasion where he did play it quickly and it took out 4 of their players who were pressing high. It came to nothing but probably one of the few times we had numbers to make something happen. Maybe it wasn't meant to be today as everyone was quite lethargic. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes, but it's the bloke running the club behind that.  The same bloke who for over a decade has promised Premiership football, but clearly isn't committed, given the continuing shambles of coaching and recruitment staff, and the unwillingness to spend what is necessary on players or bring in other investors.  

Can see little change at Ashton Gate under his stewardship.  Same old, same old.  We will be lucky to escape relegation back to our comfort zone of division three AGAIN,.

 

Problem is 50% of our fans believe it's the right way to go,get a young manager in instead of a proven manager,until the mindset at our club changes the same mistakes will keep happening.Its like  Ipswich somebody wrote they were doomed and I said as long as mick was in charge they will be fine with no money to spend

Posted
6 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Nothing to do with FF today. Outplayed lucky to get a point. Also we lack height in our team. Outmuscled. Also COD has had enough time now for me . Just doesn't affect the game enough. Thought it would be perfect for eliasson to come on . Give the crowd a lift. But poor all round today 

I don't know. COD was willing to get on the ball and push us up the pitch with his pace and dribbling. I get why many are on him because it rarely comes to anything. 

FWIW, I would've brought Eliasson on as well and probably for Pato. Just didn't make it happen today. Still worked hard but not the type of player where working hard is enough. He's one we look to when we need to make things happen going forward. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Problem is 50% of our fans believe it's the right way to go,get a young manager in instead of a proven manager,until the mindset at our club changes the same mistakes will keep happening.Its like  Ipswich somebody wrote they were doomed and I said as long as mick was in charge they will be fine with no money to spend

agree, and hows that nasty manager at Cardiff getting on....Old Warnock what does he know?   ...... I know FOOTBALL

Posted

I have seen every league game this season and today and Brentford, Birmingham 2nd half have all been dire. Our midfield is simply not good enough. The lack of ideas, tempo, movement in the team is a real concern.

We will do well to avoid a relegation battle. Alot of money spent but yet to see any real improvement. Worrying.

Posted
2 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

agree, and hows that nasty manager at Cardiff getting on....Old Warnock what does he know?   ...... I know FOOTBALL

LJ can whip up a nice omlette after his time spent in the Michelin starred restaurant though.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

Here we go, "happy clappy". 

Facts are, we've lost 1 in 4 and we sit mid table. 

Try and argue it as much as you like, those are the facts. 

As I pointed out on the match day thread, the four teams we've played so far, between them, have amassed a total of 10 points from 16 games. 5 (exactly half) of those points have been won in the 4 matches against us. In their other 12 games they've managed to accrue a spectacular 5 whole points.

We may be mid-table for now but that suggests we won't be for much longer unless we improve dramatically.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, glos old boy said:

agree, and hows that nasty manager at Cardiff getting on....Old Warnock what does he know?   ...... I know FOOTBALL

Never heard of him,is that the bloke who has the most promotions in England,not good enough for us let's go for a nice bloke who is a fraud 

Posted
17 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

You can blame players all you like but they didn't bring themselves here, or select themselves and shouldn't Eli be up to speed or why sign him? stop avoiding the real problem.

I'm sure he's physically ready but he still needs to be fit into the team. I would've brought him on but I get why he's isn't starting just yet. 

Players were lethargic. You can place blame on them too. I'm not partial to LJ but don't think he could've done much more today to change the game. He used 2 subs at an hour and another 10 min later. Too many pedestrians today in the XI. Maybe tiredness had a role. I'm not happy with today but it's still early. I would really like to judge the squad down another few games but get not everyone will. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I'm sure he's physically ready but he still needs to be fit into the team. I would've brought him on but I get why he's isn't starting just yet. 

Players were lethargic. You can place blame on them too. I'm not partial to LJ but don't think he could've done much more today to change the game. He used 2 subs at an hour and another 10 min later. Too many pedestrians today in the XI. Maybe tiredness had a role. I'm not happy with today but it's still early. I would really like to judge the squad down another few games but get not everyone will. 

You must have seen who we play in our next few games, a bit further up this thread, dosent look to hopefull.......does it, come on :dunno:I think we will be in a tunnel soon a dark one.

Posted
12 minutes ago, cummins17 said:

I feel like we've been screaming out for a real top class championship centre midfielder for the past 2 years now, hope we will see one come in with the Flint money

There is no chance of that happening. LJ has said we have great options in midfield so evidently sees no problem.

He has said we might go for a keeper but that is all. We are stuck with what we have in midfield, not an encouraging thought.

Posted
7 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I'm sure he's physically ready but he still needs to be fit into the team. I would've brought him on but I get why he's isn't starting just yet. 

Players were lethargic. You can place blame on them too. I'm not partial to LJ but don't think he could've done much more today to change the game. He used 2 subs at an hour and another 10 min later. Too many pedestrians today in the XI. Maybe tiredness had a role. I'm not happy with today but it's still early. I would really like to judge the squad down another few games but get not everyone will. 

If they're tired already a lot more fitness work would seem to be in order.

Posted

Players tired? After the easiest Pre Season games of any club in the country, having played 4 sides who are in the bottom half of the table and Muff reserves? hat the heck are they going to be like in a few months time or next April?

Tired my Arse

Posted
11 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Never heard of him,is that the bloke who has the most promotions in England,not good enough for us let's go for a nice bloke who is a fraud 

Trouble is its a mind-set and SL`s at that, even if LJ walks/is pushed sometime, when-ever, will there be any diversion from the "plan"  no sadly imo not, it will be same again. As he pays that's it...future is set.... where-ever that is.

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

Well thought out argument. 

Can you tell me why over last season and this I should be positive?

Your comment didn't warrant a well thought argument as it was obviously bullshit. X

Posted

Really tedious performance.

At least it was nice weather and I could more or less nod off in the sun.

That won't be any compensation in the Winter though.

Posted
49 minutes ago, screech said:

This is pitiful!

Two very poor teams at this level on show today,both of whom should be in the shakeup for relegation.

Both sides were there for the taking(especially us),but neither with the wherwithal to take advantage.like wading through treacle in lead hobnails just watching it.were' piss weak,and I'm being generous.

Well done to Frank-have been critical of him but saved us another point today, thanks fella.

As for Famara-if this guy is a 5,000,000 quid player then I'm the Duchess of Cambridge.aimless thoughtless running around,full stop.zero pace,zero presence.and don't try telling me he needs time to get used to this level..

Make no mistake,and don't be fooled with only one defeat in four-we is in trouble lovely boy.

Posted
16 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

You must have seen who we play in our next few games, a bit further up this thread, dosent look to hopefull.......does it, come on :dunno:I think we will be in a tunnel soon a dark one.

Possibly. We will see. 

Posted

As I said after the Brentford game and got shot down, we have very little attacking threat. No pace, no strength. Bobby has had a good start and can link play ok but he's not an outlet up top. Fam is a big concern as he does not look a 5 mill striker. Woodrow may do well but he's not the quick striker we were crying out for. 

Also agree with comments about the midfield. Would love a Jackson Irvine type signing but I won't hold my breath 

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

All if buts and maybes. I'm just going by what we've got now. 

So why have we this team?   It's not like we've been shy of spending cash?

I am honestly interested how anyone can defend this?

Posted
11 minutes ago, chinapig said:

If they're tired already a lot more fitness work would seem to be in order.

Championship fit and match fit are two different things. Especially at the pace we started at. It's my opinion and could possibly be rubbish but for whatever reason they were slow and unenergetic today. I wasn't at Brentford but sounded like they were poor but still worked their socks off. At the end of today probably half of the players from both sides dropped straight down at full time. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

That's what a majority wanted at the beginning of the season. 

Where would you expect us to be after 4 games? If someone said we would be mid table after 4 games after losing just one, would you have taken it? 

I'm not saying everything is perfect, but the reaction on here by some is incredible. 

I'm not basing it on this season alone.

Posted
1 minute ago, Raging_Robin said:

We've lost one game 

Have another look in 5 games time

Posted

I think a point is a decent result for both teams. Can't believe the negitive reaction from our fans. They put muscled us but we passed them off the park. We seemed to get to the edge of the box and ran out of ideas. I'm just happy we didn't lose tbh.

Posted

Awful game. Two awful teams.

But Millwall slightly better purely because they have a game plan (however ugly) that takes into account they're not very good.

Heard Twentyman read out an hilarious tweet asking if 12th was the limit of our ambition..Try those two numbers the other way round.

Awful.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

We've lost one game 

We're never going to agree so let's leave it. That was shit and if you're happy with that then keep it up, others actually want a bit more.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

One loss in 4

Again. Look at who we've played and how many points they've got when not playing us.

A side with realistic mid-table ambitions would expect a better return than 5 points from those 4 games.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

That's what a majority wanted at the beginning of the season. 

Where would you expect us to be after 4 games? If someone said we would be mid table after 4 games after losing just one, would you have taken it? 

I'm not saying everything is perfect, but the reaction on here by some is incredible. 

I'd say that the reactions on here are pretty measured. Not wanting to single you out here, but it seems to be key to those enjoying an LJ love-in to present all sceptics as people howling for his blood. In truth his management of the club is baffling experienced observers and no matter how annoying we'll keep expressing our bafflement, most of that bafflement is expressed quite mildly given the frustration that lies behind it!

The fact is that we have 5 points from 4 games, having played two of our easier home fixtures. We've had a fairly easy start to the season. 5 from 4 may be mid table right now but that yield per match won't keep us there. 

Posted

I know it's early days but I've seen nothing season bar a good performance against a poor Barnsley side to make me think we won't be fighting relegation again.

I arrived today hoping that there  would be a decent reaction from sneaking a point on Tuesday night but it was really poor, I appreciate Millwall had a agenda and they stuck to it. At half time I was hoping we might change it but we just stuck with the same formula how many free kicks did we float into the box only to be outmuscled. 

The lack of width really frustrates me, we so want to go through the middle, their is no overlapping out wide and we then keep trying to make 3 yard passes in the middle hoping we might get a chance on goal.

I hope it changes and I actually have an enjoyable season down the gate, at the moment more of the same is odds on.

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Have another look in 5 games time

Which is pretty much what he is saying. If things are terrible further into to season then we should get upset but at the moment they are not as bad as a lot of reactions on here suggest.

Posted
43 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said:

OK my friend let me introduce just a little reality for you then, our next 5 league games:-

Villa H

Reading A

Wolves A

Derby H

Norwich A

The only good thing about that list that 'some' people can copy and paste "did you honestly expect anything from this game" at end of each 90 minutes.

Good lord we are going to struggle against all these teams

Posted
5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Championship fit and match fit are two different things. Especially at the pace we started at. It's my opinion and could possibly be rubbish but for whatever reason they were slow and unenergetic today. I wasn't at Brentford but sounded like they were poor but still worked their socks off. At the end of today probably half of the players from both sides dropped straight down at full time. 

I referred elsewhere to Pochettino's approach. Spurs are a great pressing side on the back of regular, high intensity double training sessions.

LJ said he wanted to play a high pressing, high tempo game. In which case train them hard enough to sustain it rather than give up after a game and a half, surrendering the initiative because the players are allegedly tired.

Posted

Millwall had a clear game plan and we allowed that plan to be implemented without too much of a fight. 

I posted in another thread about our energy and high press game. When it doesn't work we look soft. 

There are times we need to be more direct. But our lack of physicality prevents us from playing that way. 

We are wasteful in possession and our game management and urgency need work. 

Our defence is a big upgrade on last year and they are having to work far too hard because of our midfield failings. 

A creative midfielder is a must. It's clear LJ doesn't fancy Hegeler as I would of thought he was scouted and brought into the club for that role. 

The window is still open and we need Mark Ashton to bring in that quality signing. 

Stevo

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