Nice Touch

[SedRA]

No, not my ability to kill a long ball instantly whilst sprinting full speed. 

Call it corporate PR or whatever but thought this was a nice little message from the club and LJ for those receiving their GCSE results today. 

And for any young'uns reading I very much agree that if you doesn't get the results you want, it doesn't mean the end of the road by any stretch! I have plenty of evidence for that

 

[Red Skin]

Nice.  What ever his ability as a football manager, LJ does come across as a decent bloke.

 

[Wanderingred]

That is nice! Well done LJ, very thoughtful. And to any lads and lasses collecting your results today, remember you are so much more than just a letter of the alphabet.

[palmerred]

10 minutes ago, Red Army Faction said:

Nice.  What ever his ability as a football manager, LJ doesn't come across as a decent bloke.

Don't you mean does ?

[Mr Popodopolous]

Is a nice message. Well done LJ.

Noticed at the bottom of the tweet, and this is possibly irrelevant but "09:01 - 24 Aug 2017 · South East, England "

Seen it on a couple of others, e.g. FGW tweets and similar. Wondered if anyone knew why?

 

[Red Skin]

12 minutes ago, palmerred said:

Don't you mean does ?

Yes.  Edited.  

[Ska Junkie]

Nice from LJ (yes, I am actually praising him). 

My lad just got his results and we are well pleased, passed nine including a distinction in engineering. That's gonna cost me a few quid as a reward but it's money I'm happy to spend.

Well done City and well done to my lad too. 

[iamalagerdrinker]

Never collected my results lied on every CV turned out alright for me! 

[BigTone]

8 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Nice from LJ (yes, I am actually praising him). 

My lad just got his results and we are well pleased, passed nine including a distinction in engineering. That's gonna cost me a few quid as a reward but it's money I'm happy to spend.

Well done City and well done to my lad too. 

Tell you what Son, go and see Mum and she'll give you a little out of her housekeeping this week.

Pops

 

 

[downendcity]

21 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Never collected my results lied on every CV turned out alright for me! 

Too much information Lee , but perhaps not the best idea to brag about it on the club's forum!

P.S. Will you pick Flint to start tomorrow night?

 

[downendcity]

57 minutes ago, RedSA said:

No, not my ability to kill a long ball instantly whilst sprinting full speed. 

Call it corporate PR or whatever but thought this was a nice little message from the club and LJ for those receiving their GCSE results today. 

And for any young'uns reading I very much agree that if you doesn't get the results you want, it doesn't mean the end of the road by any stretch! I have plenty of evidence for that

 

Surprised he didn't add that he hoped all those expecting their results "had a little tickle".

[Bar BS3]

23 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Never collected my results lied on every CV turned out alright for me! 

Absolutely! I have never once had to prove my GCSE results, so if any youngsters reading, didn't quite get the results they had hoped for, don't worry. When you fill out a job application, just put the results that you would liked to have a achieved and the jobs a good 'un!

[iamalagerdrinker]

2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Absolutely! I have never once had to prove my GCSE results, so if any youngsters reading, didn't quite get the results they had hoped for, don't worry. When you fill out a job application, just put the results that you would liked to have a achieved and the jobs a good 'un!

I applied for the Fire Service a few years ago and got into training and never had to prove my r

[Septic Peg]

I have 9 gcses A - C and 3 a levels. Never once had to show my certificates. No idea where they are either. May have been binned!

['Orns]

Remember the day well

To the young 'uns, as others have said, it's not the end of the world if it doesn't go to plan

Just be a decent human, take every opportunity that presents itself to learn and improve. Grab every experience you can, and move on when you stop learning. I got 1 B, and I've done ok (so far!)

When interviewing now I'd take personality and experience over GCSE results

[WTFiGO!?!]

Yes kids, commit fraud 

[Bristol Rob]

54 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

That is nice! Well done LJ, very thoughtful. And to any lads and lasses collecting your results today, remember you are so much more than just a letter of the alphabet.

I think that this year the kids get a number rather than a lettered grade.

So that won't make things more confusing.

[Lrrr]

My A/AS level results spell out Deuce and I'm doing a masters at uni, proof school grades don't mean much 

[RiverRed]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Is a nice message. Well done LJ.

Noticed at the bottom of the tweet, and this is possibly irrelevant but "09:01 - 24 Aug 2017 · South East, England "

Seen it on a couple of others, e.g. FGW tweets and similar. Wondered if anyone knew why?

 

This happens if the tweet is sent via smartphone. It often displays the location of the service provider, rather than the tweeter.

[Ska Junkie]

For my lad, it just means he can stay where he is (IKB academy) for his 'A' levels. 

As has been said before, I've never been asked for my school qualifications and don't question them when I interview. Trade / advanced qualifications and personality matter more TBH. School qualifications are just a means to get to the important stuff IMHO, means a lot when you're 16 though.

[brizzlelou]

2 hours ago, RedSA said:

No, not my ability to kill a long ball instantly whilst sprinting full speed. 

Call it corporate PR or whatever but thought this was a nice little message from the club and LJ for those receiving their GCSE results today. 

And for any young'uns reading I very much agree that if you doesn't get the results you want, it doesn't mean the end of the road by any stretch! I have plenty of evidence for that

 

I've always liked lee as a bloke and had plenty of time for him, this season I think he's tried to reign in the super happy, chummy guy bit he got stick for last season and in my opinion is coming across even better now. 

FWIW - I absolutely wanked my GCSE's up the wall first time around and I ended up doing pretty ok for myself.

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, Septic Peg said:

I have 9 gcses A - C and 3 a levels. Never once had to show my certificates. No idea where they are either. May have been binned!

Theresa May has them Peg, and look where she got with them!

[RedM]

I'm old enough to have O Levels and CSE's, worked bloody hard and got a clean sweep of excellent grades ( before anyone jumps in and says I'm bragging carry on reading....) My point is that I pretty much never used them. It was a means to getting to college and from there I got other qualifications and experience which enabled me to get a career.

All you have to prove Is your ability to learn. Showing you can be reliable in holding down a 'pocket money' job whilst at school is another thing that got me infront of many. I've noticed that counted for a lot when my own children were going through their first steps from education to work too. 

Good of the club to do this, I know many kids will think it's the end of the world today despite what their parents tell them, but they might listen to someone like a football manager or player. Many people have failed at school and gone on to do well at a different college or as Lee mentions Bristol City do education courses and retakes etc, sometimes it just needs a different teacher and different surroundings. Best of luck all. 

[Phileas Fogg]

Surprised to see so many downplaying their importance - both GCSEs and A-Levels are important exams.

Granted, you can do very well without them - but it's always going to be an advantage to do well in them.

Also unwise to lie about them, these days schools will naturally be far better at collating information digitally so an employer can verify though that, they won't ask for certificates.  

[Lanterne Rouge]

2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Surprised to see so many downplaying their importance - both GCSEs and A-Levels are important exams.

Granted, you can do very well without them - but it's always going to be an advantage to do well in them.

Also unwise to lie about them, these days schools will naturally be far better at collating information digitally so an employer can verify though that, they won't ask for certificates.  

I think it`s an age thing mate. I can`t see the results of some exams (five grade C O levels, the rest unclassified) that I took nearly 45 years ago would have any relevance to any job I was applying for now. If I was forty years younger then I agree, they would be important as they are really the only qualifications anyone can use to judge someone on as you`ve not had the time or experience in work to be able to use that.

[Major Isewater]

2 hours ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Never collected my results lied on every CV turned out alright for me! 

You're fired .

[WTFiGO!?!]

31 minutes ago, brizzlelou said:

I've always liked lee as a bloke and had plenty of time for him, this season I think he's tried to reign in the super happy, chummy guy bit he got stick for last season and in my opinion is coming across even better now. 

FWIW - I absolutely wanked my GCSE's up the wall first time around and I ended up doing pretty ok for myself.

The message "be the best you can be, work hard and you'll have a great life" grates a bit with me because it's often not true (it is a Tory lie) - there is much, much more to people's life chances than that and it is psychologically damaging for the individual to believe otherwise.

Lee Johnson was blessed with 'athleticism', a very rare opportunity and the chance of being a part of a glamorous, multi-million pound industry.  I'm not suggesting he also didn't work hard or "become the best he could be" but he was dealt a very favourable hand in life.

Still, fair play to him for the sentiment and I wish the best to our 16 y/o's, especially the ones who didn't get what they had hoped for today.

It is a damn right lie and tantamount to child abuse to tell teenagers these exams will dictate their entire future.  It's an absolutely disgusting message!

 

[Floatn Over]

Back to start of thread; a very nice touch indeed.

Probably not many head coach / managers would think to do this.

[Phileas Fogg]

10 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

I think it`s an age thing mate. I can`t see the results of some exams (five grade C O levels, the rest unclassified) that I took nearly 45 years ago would have any relevance to any job I was applying for now. If I was forty years younger then I agree, they would be important as they are really the only qualifications anyone can use to judge someone on as you`ve not had the time or experience in work to be able to use that.

You're probably right. I doubt many employers really cared before the digital age, these days there's the means to double check if they really want to.

Granted, its unlikely an employer would want to double check GCSEs, but better to be safe than sorry.

A-Levels I think they might given that the whole process of applying to University and results is done online.

The video is a nice touch, whether LJ initiated it or it was the media team. 

[Kid in the Riot]

His message should be "don't worry kids, it's not what you know it's who you know"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lenred]

3 hours ago, RedSA said:

No, not my ability to kill a long ball instantly whilst sprinting full speed. 

Call it corporate PR or whatever but thought this was a nice little message from the club and LJ for those receiving their GCSE results today. 

And for any young'uns reading I very much agree that if you doesn't get the results you want, it doesn't mean the end of the road by any stretch! I have plenty of evidence for that

 

Really nice touch that. Well done BCFC and well done LJ. And good luck to all of you and your kids that are getting results today! 

[reddoh]

1 hour ago, Septic Peg said:

I have 9 gcses A - C and 3 a levels. Never once had to show my certificates. No idea where they are either. May have been binned!

 

23 minutes ago, RedM said:

I'm old enough to have O Levels and CSE's, worked bloody hard and got a clean sweep of excellent grades ( before anyone jumps in and says I'm bragging carry on reading....) My point is that I pretty much never used them. It was a means to getting to college and from there I got other qualifications and experience which enabled me to get a career.

All you have to prove Is your ability to learn. Showing you can be reliable in holding down a 'pocket money' job whilst at school is another thing that got me infront of many. I've noticed that counted for a lot when my own children were going through their first steps from education to work too. 

Good of the club to do this, I know many kids will think it's the end of the world today despite what their parents tell them, but they might listen to someone like a football manager or player. Many people have failed at school and gone on to do well at a different college or as Lee mentions Bristol City do education courses and retakes etc, sometimes it just needs a different teacher and different surroundings. Best of luck all. 

I was a could try harder pupil (i.e could try) never used my results once until the age of 47(not even the meaning of life the universe and everything) my mother GRHS gave me every bit of  c r a p she ever had about me and told me to put it safe place

when asked to show exam results I knew exactly where too look but whole house and attic didn't help much.

and for any youngsters out there as a person you are better than an exam result and achieve your dreams

[Mr Popodopolous]

Reading through this thread about importance of exam results. Moreso now than the past I reckon.

Also suspect that certain industries are hotter on it than others. As Phileas said you could fake exam results. Of course you could, easiest thing in the world to change it on CV.

They may well tend to check with the school/college though so you could soon be found out!

On that theme of exams, importance and the like. Masters degrees? Fantastic. Broaden horizons intellectually? Lovely. Or skill base for higher salary, job role? Terrific.

Always held the instinctive view though that experience or experience plus degree- unless it's specific or niche or similar Masters can be more useful than degree plus masters.

Who knows though, employers seem to keep changing their views. Main point is that though important for sure, failing at 16 need not be disaster or doom!

[BobBobSuperBob]

2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Absolutely! I have never once had to prove my GCSE results, so if any youngsters reading, didn't quite get the results they had hoped for, don't worry. When you fill out a job application, just put the results that you would liked to have a achieved and the jobs a good 'un!

Just a warning , before you influence too many

.....it does happen  to  a criminal offence 

Not judging , just pointing out

People should at least be aware of the possible consequences .....

 

[RumRed]

Any kids out there who didn't get the results they wanted needn't worry, you've been done over by the generations before anyway so **** it and party on.

[Coxy27]

@iamalagerdrinker - Do you have to have two large images in your tag? - This comes up every time you post, bit annoying, especially on mobile!

[iamalagerdrinker]

2 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

@iamalagerdrinker - Do you have to have two large images in your tag? - This comes up every time you post, bit annoying, especially on mobile!

Apolgiges, thought it was just one. Will sort out later!

[Mad Cyril]

Contrary to what it says on my CV, I dont actually have 11 GCSEs, 4 A-levels, a 1st class degree in medical science and i certainly dont have a real PhD in gynaecology.

Nevertheless I bloody love my job....

[RumRed]

2 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said:

Contrary to what it says on my CV, I dont actually have 11 GCSEs, 4 A-levels, a 1st class degree in medical science and i certainly dont have a real PhD in gynaecology.

Nevertheless I bloody love my job....

Deliveroo?

[Cider-Head23]

8 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Apolgiges, thought it was just one. Will sort out later!

Yeah you have a massive copy & paste of a Magnússon tweet, and then for some reason a copy of paste of the Bristol Post blocking you on twitter both quite irrelevant. 

Don't mean to be a spoil sport, but just one post from yourself, takes up a page of a computer screen.

[Robbored]

On the few times I've met LJ he certainly presents a decent bloke. Never dismissive or irritable - unlike some previous managers I've met.

[Phileas Fogg]

24 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Just a warning , before you influence too many

.....it does happen  to  a criminal offence 

Not judging , just pointing out

People should at least be aware of the possible consequences .....

 

That's right. Jobs with particularly tough competition do their due diligence. Far better to be safe than sorry.

[downendcity]

14 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said:

Contrary to what it says on my CV, I dont actually have 11 GCSEs, 4 A-levels, a 1st class degree in medical science and i certainly dont have a real PhD in gynaecology.

Nevertheless I bloody love my job....

You just like poking your nose in other people's business don't you Cyril? 

['Orns]

1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Surprised to see so many downplaying their importance - both GCSEs and A-Levels are important exams.

Granted, you can do very well without them - but it's always going to be an advantage to do well in them.

Also unwise to lie about them, these days schools will naturally be far better at collating information digitally so an employer can verify though that, they won't ask for certificates.  

Jut finished series 5 of Suits....I bet there's a few out there who lie on their cv who are worried now!

[Ian M]

18 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

@iamalagerdrinker - Do you have to have two large images in your tag? - This comes up every time you post, bit annoying, especially on mobile!

 

7 minutes ago, Cider-Head23 said:

Yeah you have a massive copy & paste of a Magnússon tweet, and then for some reason a copy of paste of the Bristol Post blocking you on twitter both quite irrelevant. 

Don't mean to be a spoil sport, but just one post from yourself, takes up a page of a computer screen.

It's possible to turn off viewing signatures if you want a more streamlined look when browsing threads. 

 

You can turn turn them off here:

http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/settings/signature/

 

[BobBobSuperBob]

7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

That's right. Jobs with particularly tough competition do their due diligence. Far better to be safe than sorry.

Sounds like an easy quick fix solution doesn't it PF 

Then see how a conviction for Obtaining Pecuniary Advantage by Deception  works out from then on

 

A ex neighbour of mine , no convictions , in his 30s , got six months for amending his A level results to get on a course at Bristol  Uni , and the grant , he (would have been) entitled to

[Red Exile]

Nice touch. Impressed.

[Bar BS3]

32 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Just a warning , before you influence too many

.....it does happen  to  a criminal offence 

Not judging , just pointing out

People should at least be aware of the possible consequences .....

 

If they think it's a good idea to be influenced by "careers advice" on here, then they probably need all the "help" they can get..! 

[Nogbad the Bad]

Nice touch indeed, but also an advert for the Community Trust education programme, so not completely altruistic perhaps.

[RumRed]

16 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

That's right. Jobs with particularly tough competition do their due diligence. Far better to be safe than sorry.

Correct, just accepted a new job offer and all qualifications (GCSEs, A levels, Degree and professional), credit check and a list of assets and liabilities have been requested.

They will be checked too.

Convince them with something else rather than grades but don't lie, it could come back to haunt you in 20 odd years 

[Bristol Rob]

38 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Just a warning , before you influence too many

.....it does happen  to  a criminal offence 

Not judging , just pointing out

People should at least be aware of the possible consequences .....

 

Section82 are delighted to announce they got an A* in GCSE smoke bombing.

[BobBobSuperBob]

14 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

If they think it's a good idea to be influenced by "careers advice" on here, then they probably need all the "help" they can get..! 

Accept you weren't trying to influence or seriously suggest but there will always be the odd one who reads something and thinks , ' actually that's a good idea'

Just wanted to point out the potential consequences if anyone did

One of those things that seems like a good idea at the time until it goes ***** up

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, WTFiGO!?! said:

The message "be the best you can be, work hard and you'll have a great life" grates a bit with me because it's often not true (it is a Tory lie) - there is much, much more to people's life chances than that and it is psychologically damaging for the individual to believe otherwise.

Lee Johnson was blessed with 'athleticism', a very rare opportunity and the chance of being a part of a glamorous, multi-million pound industry.  I'm not suggesting he also didn't work hard or "become the best he could be" but he was dealt a very favourable hand in life.

Still, fair play to him for the sentiment and I wish the best to our 16 y/o's, especially the ones who didn't get what they had hoped for today.

It is a damn right lie and tantamount to child abuse to tell teenagers these exams will dictate their entire future.  It's an absolutely disgusting message!

 

Your message appears to be: don't try or work hard because it's easier being a victim and blame others for your situation 

What's damaging? It is that some people nowadays think that you don't have to work hard for success.

[Unan]

What employers actually check GCSE results? I've always lied on mine, I said I've got an A* in maths, I can't even count to B!

[Coupon]

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Is a nice message. Well done LJ.

Noticed at the bottom of the tweet, and this is possibly irrelevant but "09:01 - 24 Aug 2017 · South East, England "

Seen it on a couple of others, e.g. FGW tweets and similar. Wondered if anyone knew why?

 

I believe it is where the IT provider is based.  The video has to go through them to get published.  I had similar as BT Internet are based in Middlesborough and very often I was confused (easily done) when it showed me as being up there - a couple of hundred miles away from my actual location.  I had to contact them about something else, but asked them about this and that was their answer. Hope this helps.

[bengalcub]

Nice touch the blokes the most irritating boss we have had !!! Wish he'd shut up smarmy little s**t .  

[WTFiGO!?!]

1 hour ago, bcfcfinker said:

Your message appears to be: don't try or work hard because it's easier being a victim and blame others for your situation 

What's damaging? It is that some people nowadays think that you don't have to work hard for success.

That is not what I intended to convey, I advocate hard work and personal responsibility.

What's damaging is the belief that life is fair - which it patently is not and that rewards are directly correlated to work rate - which regularly they are not. 

It is certainly more complicated than hard work = guaranteed 'great life' and can be damaging to believe otherwise.  

The message should read "Work hard, become the best you can be and you are more likely to have a great life".  

Although I've over-scrutinised Lee Johnson here who I'm sure was just trying to be encouraging, credit to him for that.

 

[richwwtk]

1 hour ago, bengalcub said:

Nice touch the blokes the most irritating boss we have had !!! Wish he'd shut up smarmy little s**t .  

Shall I put you down for the 'Johnson Out' camp then?

[brady bunch]

well done LJ, lovely message and so true.

I have 5 kids (3 a bit of a way off doing the exams and 2 have gone past them and now at Uni).

Exams are all well and good, but I did use a bit of "artistic license" with mine in the past (never even passed any O levels or A levels and I am now a company director and have been for 20 years!). This is the best piece of advice I could find for my kids, from young Arnie Schwarzenegger:

https://opisina.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/6-rules-of-success-arnold-schwarzenegger

[Unan]

Just a bit of good PR, surprised if it's LJ's idea

[Dollymarie]

Very proud of my goddaughter today who passed all of hers with flying colours. She's had all sorts of issues away from school in the last few years, and was worried this might have affected things, but she ended up with an A, 2B's and 3 C's. I hope she likes the card I got her tomorrow, signed by Joey Bryan. 

[Phileas Fogg]

2 hours ago, Tammys Scan said:

What employers actually check GCSE results? I've always lied on mine, I said I've got an A* in maths, I can't even count to B!

I know you're in your early 20s so may not matter as much for jobs at the start of your career.

Definitely a bad idea to lie about it. As @RumRed mentioned, some employers will do their due diligence - especially as you go for more senior jobs.

[Floatn Over]

2 hours ago, bengalcub said:

Nice touch the blokes the most irritating boss we have had !!! Wish he'd shut up smarmy little s**t .  

Short memory then !

Cough, Sniff, Stupid Question 

[bengalcub]

I'm not a fan of his , never understood sacking cottrill for an average at best former player , and inexperienced league 1 manager  how he's kept his job after guiding us into the bottom three last season beggars believe ...... 

[Leveller]

12 minutes ago, bengalcub said:

I'm not a fan of his , never understood sacking cottrill for an average at best former player , and inexperienced league 1 manager  how he's kept his job after guiding us into the bottom three last season beggars believe ...... 

Surprised nobody else has ever said that ....

[Unan]

31 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I know you're in your early 20s so may not matter as much for jobs at the start of your career.

Definitely a bad idea to lie about it. As @RumRed mentioned, some employers will do their due diligence - especially as you go for more senior jobs.

Was just a joke, couldn't have been that funny Luckily my GCSE's/A-Level results don't require me to have to lie 

[Phileas Fogg]

27 minutes ago, bengalcub said:

I'm not a fan of his , never understood sacking cottrill for an average at best former player

Not relevant; never fails to surprise me when people add this into an anti-LJ debate.

There are many many more valid criticisms you could choose and you chose this!!

 

[GrahamC]

4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Just a warning , before you influence too many

.....it does happen  to  a criminal offence 

Not judging , just pointing out

People should at least be aware of the possible consequences .....

 

Can think of at least 2 occasions in my career when I've called people in who have lied about their qualifications and told them their employment was being terminated with immediate effect.

These were not highly paid roles, either..

[Northern Red]

52 minutes ago, bengalcub said:

I'm not a fan of his , never understood sacking cottrill for an average at best former player , and inexperienced league 1 manager  how he's kept his job after guiding us into the bottom three last season beggars believe ...... 

Any chance you could save this for one of the umpteen other threads that debate his performance? 

[downendcity]

48 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Not relevant; never fails to surprise me when people add this into an anti-LJ debate.

There are many many more valid criticisms you could choose and you chose this!!

 

I do wonder how many of LJ's detractors were also his critics when he was player here, and that influenced their view of him from the day he was appointed.