Super Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41337127 Jeez what on earth is going on?!
Lrrr Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 PC gone mad after the stuff with the Sampson stuff.
Phileas Fogg Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Absurd. Reminds me a bit of the Ultra flag-gate here at AG.
Monkeh Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Super said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-41337127 Jeez what on earth is going on?! PC mate, don;t want to offend anyone, We will all soon have to play in rainbow kits wrapped in synthetic wool (can't use cotton because of the slave trade)
Red Army 75 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Absolutely ludicrous. So is the word white racist . Had a guts full of this bullshit
Super Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 The FA are an absolute joke on a par if not worse than bloody Fifa. Embarrassing.
Septic Peg Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 This is an absolute joke. I saw the banner and knew it referred to the kit. What's next? Changing Leeds and Preston's nicknames?
glynriley Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Super said: The FA are an absolute joke on a par if not worse than bloody Fifa. Embarrassing. Wonder what colour kit they'll have us playing in next? Coventry away 1978??
Admin Phantom Posted September 21, 2017 Admin Posted September 21, 2017 Yet another example of someone not having a clue about the football club they are playing at Shame the reps hadn't been to a Tranmere game prior to that evening they would have heard the song being sung
Ciderhead433 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Monkeh said: PC mate, don;t want to offend anyone, We will all soon have to play in rainbow kits wrapped in synthetic wool (can't use cotton because of the slave trade) With skirts
RedJim Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I'm a very liberal guy, but this really is absolutely stupid.
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 When is someone just going to say 'NO' to all this crap and then simply refuse to apologise if someone makes out they've been 'offended'.
Shtanley Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 We should probably stop singing come on you reds before the Navajo kick off
Wanderingred Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Christ. As soon as I saw the thread title I knew exactly what this was going to be about. We'd better stop singing come on you reds in case it offends sunburnt Brits.
NOTBLUE Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Shtanley said: We should probably stop singing come on you reds before the Navajo kick off More like the US Calvary might kick off.
BanburyRed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 You couldn't make that up, could you? This proving that the FA are exactly that, fit for **** A**!
exAtyeoMax Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: PC mate, don;t want to offend anyone, We will all soon have to play in rainbow kits wrapped in synthetic wool (can't use cotton because of the slave trade) can't they just be naked, like the ancient Greeks …?
Monkeh Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: can't they just be naked, like the ancient Greeks …? not for me, although dolly, peg and Redm will be happy
Meh Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: not for me, although dolly, peg and Redm will be happy God know - imagine a black guy had a bigger dick? All hell will let loose if it gets mentioned !!
ZiderEyed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Yeah sick to ******* death of this. I'm about as far to the bottom left of the political spectrum as its possible to go, makes me feel ill. No more black coffee, no white knights, no brown envelopes. Kill me, lets get it over with.
ZiderEyed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, BanburyRed said: You couldn't make that up, could you? This proving that the FA are exactly that, fit for **** A**! It's literally like a sitcom, kick the FA out of football forever.
Red-Robbo Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Good job the FA has no jurisdiction over rugby. Imagine what they'd make of the All Blacks tour......
ZiderEyed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Good job the FA has no jurisdiction over rugby. Imagine what they'd make of the All Blacks tour...... Can't like this as my phone won't let me but consider this as one!
exAtyeoMax Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Good job the FA has no jurisdiction over rugby. Imagine what they'd make of the All Blacks tour...... can somebody tweet them that…
Red Army 75 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Good job the FA has no jurisdiction over rugby. Imagine what they'd make of the All Blacks tour...... Hopefully the all blacks would tell them to **** off . Just like tranmere should of
Northern Red Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: When is someone just going to say 'NO' to all this crap and then simply refuse to apologise if someone makes out they've been 'offended'. I seriously doubt you'd find anyone, anywhere, who'd be offended by that banner.
cidered abroad Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Shtanley said: We should probably stop singing come on you reds before the Navajo kick off I believe that they are not Red Indians anymore. Now Native Americans? The FA should have fun with Newcastle United's Black and White Army. What a load of rubbish. Northern Europeans are not white anyway. We have varying shades of pink / light tan depending on the time of the year and where in Europe we live.
1stCityExile Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: I believe that they are not Red Indians anymore. Now Native Americans? The FA should have fun with Newcastle United's Black and White Army. What a load of rubbish. Northern Europeans are not white anyway. We have varying shades of pink / light tan depending on the time of the year and where in Europe we live. "I believe that they are not Red Indians anymore. Now Native Americans?" While attending a Rodeo in Wisconsin last year, the compare said that it is no longer politically correct to refer to (the audience) as "Red Necks". Henceforth they are to be called Nascar Americans!
Busterrimes Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 What will New Zealand Rugby do? After all it must be racist to be called the "All Blacks"
Monkeh Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Bah bah green sheep. I find that offensive, as a vegan Green is the colour of plants, and plants need to respected and treated as equals, and your mention of the word sheep is offensive, they are living creatures subjected vile conditions where some steals their warm coat and they have to freeze
spudski Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: I believe that they are not Red Indians anymore. Now Native Americans? The FA should have fun with Newcastle United's Black and White Army. What a load of rubbish. Northern Europeans are not white anyway. We have varying shades of pink / light tan depending on the time of the year and where in Europe we live. First Nations...I got caught out in Canada by saying 'First Editions' by mistake...highly embarrassing.
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I'm totally non racist. Indeed for my sins I am a bit PC...not vastly but enough for modern times. This is a complete lot of shit though. If anything, this sort of ruling will cause more issues than it solves.
Southstandoriginal Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: I seriously doubt you'd find anyone, anywhere, who'd be offended by that banner. No but there are plenty who will be outraged on behalf of someone else!
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 You want another laugh? I had a look at the Tranmere Twitter page. I see the FA had no issues over that...
Southstandoriginal Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, RedJim said: I'm a very liberal guy, but this really is absolutely stupid. Whoever censored that banner is no liberal.
cityloyal473 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: When is someone just going to say 'NO' to all this crap and then simply refuse to apologise if someone makes out they've been 'offended'. Problem is people are literally falling over themselves looking to apologise having done nothing wrong or offensive.
South Somerset Red Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Really sad state of affairs this world is in now.
NOTBLUE Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I can't see the problem here,the banner is clearly racist
Phileas Fogg Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 You can absolutely guarantee that the person who's 'taken offence' and made the decision to do this is white. They probably haven't even really been offended; rather preempting potential offence this banner could cause if someone got it's meaning badly confused. What a strange train of thought that is to reach the conclusion that the banner must not be seen. Preempting offence about something totally unrelated to race or social justice is so bizarre.. by preempting this and assuming someone somewhere may take offence; if anything it's offensive to the people it's designed to be 'protecting' from potential offence. What a muddle.
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, phantom said: Yet another example of someone not having a clue about the football club they are playing at Shame the reps hadn't been to a Tranmere game prior to that evening they would have heard the song being sung My Tranmere supporting mate is as leftish as they come, and he refers to them as Superwhites.
Red Army 75 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: You can absolutely guarantee that the person who's 'taken offence' and made the decision to do this is white. They probably haven't even really been offended; rather preempting potential offence this banner could cause if someone got it's meaning badly confused. What a strange train of thought that is to reach the conclusion that the banner must not be seen. Preempting offence about something totally unrelated to race or social justice is so bizarre.. by preempting this and assuming someone somewhere may take offence; if anything it's offensive to the people it's designed to be 'protecting' from potential offence. What a muddle. They seen the word white . On a flag inside a football stadium and instantly thought racism. Absolutely pathetic
BCFC Rich Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I think its still a crazy overreaction, but I think it has more to do with England Women playing in front of the sign after everything that has been going on than the sign being seen as racist in isolation. I don't think they're removing it, it sounds like it was just covered for the England game.
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 I'd suggest ramming this nonsense up their musty ringpieces, but the self-flagellating bitches would probably enjoy it.
BITW Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Welcome to 2017, where people will literally go to any lengths necessary to be offended - usually on someone else's behalf.
ukneil Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, spudski said: First Nations...I got caught out in Canada by saying 'First Editions' by mistake...highly embarrassing. Ah now 'first edition Canadians' would be the correct lable for my kids. Or would that be 'half first edition' as their Mum is Canadian. And does that mean we are a mixed race household? Or perhaps just a bunch of mongrels. Hells bells where to tread...
BanburyRed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Presumably Tottenham will now no longer be able to play at White Hart Lane?!
elhombrecito Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Busterrimes said: What will New Zealand Rugby do? After all it must be racist to be called the "All Blacks" 5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Good job the FA has no jurisdiction over rugby. Imagine what they'd make of the All Blacks tour...... It's worse than that. The New Zealand football team is called the All Whites. Racist bastards.
CotswoldRed Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Misunderstanding what racism actually is, is quite disappointing and mildly offensive in itself as it shows utter ignorance.
RedRock Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 So.... England play in white. Yet a banner, supporting that colour albeit just coincidence being of the same colour as the host team, is deemed offensive. Wow... just wow. Name and shame the absolute weapon who made this decision. These idiots should be arrested for inciting racial hatred/disharmony. Fortunately, apart from sunburnt Brits, no one is red-skinned so 'Red Army' chants, I assume, will be allowed at our future matches.
Pezo Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Well it wasnt racists before but could be used that way now - well done FA you absolute mupets.
Kingswood Robin Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Moor2Sea said: So.... England play in white. Yet a banner, supporting that colour albeit just coincidence being of the same colour as the host team, is deemed offensive. Wow... just wow. Name and shame the absolute weapon who made this decision. These idiots should be arrested for inciting racial hatred/disharmony. Fortunately, apart from sunburnt Brits, no one is red-skinned so 'Red Army' chants, I assume, will be allowed at our future matches. Do the Soviets know about this? Hand over your season ticket sonny.
freezer Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Northern Red said: I seriously doubt you'd find anyone, anywhere, who'd be offended by that banner. I'm offended, can I have about £80,000 compensation please and I won't complain anymore. Well, for a while anyway.
freezer Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 4 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Misunderstanding what racism actually is, is quite disappointing and mildly offensive in itself as it shows utter ignorance. Do you consider the banner as racist? If you do then I must be misunderstanding, mildly offensive and utterly ignorant.
Ivorguy Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 It is surely the use of the word Army in this context that renders the banner racist. The lack of awareness shown on this thread is to me deeply worrying. As a white Bristolian I feel I have an extra responsibility to be sensitive to issues of a racist nature
WarksRobin Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 What this week proves is that the FA has truly lost touch with grass roots football supporters. And reality.
RedM Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Pezo said: Well it wasnt racists before but could be used that way now - well done FA you absolute mupets. Exactly. They have now drawn attention to something they wanted to blank out. I really don't have a word to describe the level of competency at which they do their jobs, I'm just thankful I can go about my daily life without the thoughts in my head that must exist in theirs. If they want games rightly played at different venues around the country then they must embrace the host stadiums and their banners etc. Well done Tranmere, be proud to be Super Whites as that's what you are.
Reigate Red Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I struggle to imagine the nature of the conversations that must go on in meetings that decide these utter ridiculous things. It can only be something like you see in the W1A parody.
Phileas Fogg Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Ivorguy said: It is surely the use of the word Army in this context that renders the banner racist. The lack of awareness shown on this thread is to me deeply worrying. As a white Bristolian I feel I have an extra responsibility to be sensitive to issues of a racist nature Hahaha what!!
Super Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Hahaha what!! I was guessing his post wasn't serious!
Phileas Fogg Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Super said: I was guessing his post wasn't serious! Coming from Ivorguy I think it probably is serious..
Monkeh Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Super said: I was guessing his post wasn't serious! it's from Ivorguy, I think he is serious
Big C Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Does that mean we can no longer be Red Army or Cider Army then because we are being racist against non reds and other beverages?
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Big C said: Does that mean we can no longer be Red Army or Cider Army then because we are being racist against non reds and other beverages? And we mustn`t chant `City` any more as it`s clearly a townist insult.
Unan Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 The only hint of racism is the FA claiming this is racist..
CotswoldRed Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 19 hours ago, freezer said: Do you consider the banner as racist? If you do then I must be misunderstanding, mildly offensive and utterly ignorant. Que? No, it's not racist, but those who think it is need a quiet word with themselves.
ZiderEyed Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I have never, EVER consider it in this way, I can honestly say, until now. I'm so depressed over this, what a country we live in.
Kingswood Robin Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 22 hours ago, freezer said: I'm offended, can I have about £80,000 compensation please and I won't complain anymore. Well, for a while anyway. You've made a mistake there. There is no "offended" any more, you just go straight to "grossly offended".
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