Guest Stockwood nick Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Hi all, i firstly want to say well done to the stewards in the singing section yesterday, did a great job in trying to stop people coming in!! After speaking with one of them, it doesnt look like the singing section will be able to go on that much longer unless people stop forcing into it!! i for one have a season ticket in there, take my 3 year old daughter most weeks, a few games have been unbearable this season, to the extent that my daughter actually got stood on by someone as there was no room to move at all!! So in a nutshell, if you are one of those that keeps trying to come into the singing section - DONT!! Do as the rest of us did, and get yourself a season ticket in there next season!! Be a shame to lose it due to idiots not going to their own seat!! Rant over!! Bring on sunderland away!! COYR!!
Bristol Rob Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 If the demand is there maybe they could expand it.
Bris Red Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Why it cant extend around to the next block in the south stand is beyond me, as Bristol Rob has said the demand is there clearly.
Guest Stockwood nick Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Hopefully could be a possibility for next season, but we gotta get to the end of this one with it intact before those conversations can start id guess!
Phileas Fogg Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, bris red said: Why it cant extend around to the next block in the south stand is beyond me, as Bristol Rob has said the demand is there clearly. Would be a good reason to make those lower blocks in the dolman safe standing (as in the plans) and have it extend round there.
Bris Red Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 The problem is on bigger games like Leeds when more heads are out people want a stand and a sing song, the old East End could cope with the demand as people could roam about the WHOLE stand hassle free. Ive always said if not the whole but a good half of the south stand needs to be un reserved that little corner isnt going to be enough when the demand is there.
cidered abroad Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 It will evolve over time due to supply and demand. The major problem at present as I see it, is that the entry to each section of the stadium from the concourse is uncontrolled. Thus it takes only a few to decide that they'll go to another section than the ticket was bought for, to create problems like those described by OP. A crowd of 20,000 will have enough empty spaces to absorb a few migrants whereas 24,000 will not. I don't know the reason but approximately a dozen seats in S22 in rows 23 & 24 were empty yesterday. Absent from game for reasons unknown or moved elsewhere ?
Guest Stockwood nick Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: It will evolve over time due to supply and demand. The major problem at present as I see it, is that the entry to each section of the stadium from the concourse is uncontrolled. Thus it takes only a few to decide that they'll go to another section than the ticket was bought for, to create problems like those described by OP. A crowd of 20,000 will have enough empty spaces to absorb a few migrants whereas 24,000 will not. I don't know the reason but approximately a dozen seats in S22 in rows 23 & 24 were empty yesterday. Absent from game for reasons unknown or moved elsewhere ? Yeh this is exactly the issue, to be fair to the stewards yesterday they did a great job, was quite funny sitting and watching them catching people walking along the isles and turning them away to be fair. I just think that if people want this section to grow, then behave this season and guarentee yourself a place there with a season ticket next season!!
chalky Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 The demand is clearly there so they need to expand it. It seemed a lot less busy in there compared to other games where they have not been checking tickets. In safe standing areas they allow 1.5 person per seat so in theory that corner should be able to accommodate and extra 50%. I have stood in safe standing areas and it seems like there is more room in the south stand on each row that in safe standing so I'm surprised this is such a big problem for the OP. I think they space is there you just have to be flexible and move around a bit. Some rows will be quite packed and other rows will have quite a bit of space.
Coombsy Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 I would like to say a big thank you to the steward who stopped my 12 year old going to his seat in the landsdown stand I was all ready in my seat he went to get some food and was not let back to his seat as I had his season ticket lucky he had his phone with him maybe the stewards need some common sense training
pongo88 Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 It’s easy to say expand the standing section, but this ignores the problems of mixing standing and seating. The current position allows those who wish to stand to do so without blocking the view of those siting in the next blocks. If the standing section expanded across the South Stand those sitting would not be able to see what was happening when play was in the Dolman / South Stand corner. This may not please those who wish to stand but it’s true.
richwwtk Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It’s easy to say expand the standing section, but this ignores the problems of mixing standing and seating. The current position allows those who wish to stand to do so without blocking the view of those siting in the next blocks. If the standing section expanded across the South Stand those sitting would not be able to see what was happening when play was in the Dolman / South Stand corner. This may not please those who wish to stand but it’s true. Then maybe, if the standing section is indeed to be expanded, they should expand it by allocating the top 25% of each block or something similar.
Sleepy1968 Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, Coombsy said: I would like to say a big thank you to the steward who stopped my 12 year old going to his seat in the landsdown stand I was all ready in my seat he went to get some food and was not let back to his seat as I had his season ticket lucky he had his phone with him maybe the stewards need some common sense training Whilst I think it's reasonable to challenge anyone to produce a ticket, the common sense approach would have been to escort him to his seat to check. I wonder what they were going to suggest if he couldn't have phoned you himself. Maybe you'll just have to trust him to look after his own ticket in future.
cidered abroad Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 If we continue to build the normal gates well above 20,000 then an expanded area of standing will be commonsense. As above, the rear rows of all the blocks in South Stand could be designated but that of course will need some to be moved elsewhere. And that will not be a smooth operation. If attendances stay around 18,000 to 20,000 probably no problem.
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: If we continue to build the normal gates well above 20,000 then an expanded area of standing will be commonsense. As above, the rear rows of all the blocks in South Stand could be designated but that of course will need some to be moved elsewhere. And that will not be a smooth operation. If attendances stay around 18,000 to 20,000 probably no problem. I`ve not been in the `S82` area but would it not be better to expand it into the first block of the Dolman rather than further into the SS for now? Would it not concentrate the noise better?
South Somerset Red Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It’s easy to say expand the standing section, but this ignores the problems of mixing standing and seating. The current position allows those who wish to stand to do so without blocking the view of those siting in the next blocks. If the standing section expanded across the South Stand those sitting would not be able to see what was happening when play was in the Dolman / South Stand corner. This may not please those who wish to stand but it’s true. Probably be best to use the opposite corner as another unreserved area
BCFC Grim Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Stockwood nick said: Yeh this is exactly the issue, to be fair to the stewards yesterday they did a great job, was quite funny sitting and watching them catching people walking along the isles and turning them away to be fair. I just think that if people want this section to grow, then behave this season and guarentee yourself a place there with a season ticket next season!! You can't guarantee a seat next season. They'll already garanteed for the people currently in there. It's a closed shop. Common sense says make it bigger but I won't hold my breath.
pongo88 Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, richwwtk said: Then maybe, if the standing section is indeed to be expanded, they should expand it by allocating the top 25% of each block or something similar. 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: If we continue to build the normal gates well above 20,000 then an expanded area of standing will be commonsense. As above, the rear rows of all the blocks in South Stand could be designated but that of course will need some to be moved elsewhere. And that will not be a smooth operation. If attendances stay around 18,000 to 20,000 probably no problem. 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: I`ve not been in the `S82` area but would it not be better to expand it into the first block of the Dolman rather than further into the SS for now? Would it not concentrate the noise better? 57 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: Probably be best to use the opposite corner as another unreserved area These are all reasonable suggestions apart from one fact - there are already people sitting in these areas, who are quite happy where they are, and don’t want to move. Although there are people who want to stand there are even more who want to sit.
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, pongo88 said: These are all reasonable suggestions apart from one fact - there are already people sitting in these areas, who are quite happy where they are, and don’t want to move. Although there are people who want to stand there are even more who want to sit. Nail on head IMO. I`m at the back of S21 and love hearing the noise from over in the corner and the atmosphere it creates but would fight tooth and nail if it was proposed my area became part of it! You can`t please all of the people all of the time I guess.
Bris Red Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Stockwood nick said: Yeh this is exactly the issue, to be fair to the stewards yesterday they did a great job, was quite funny sitting and watching them catching people walking along the isles and turning them away to be fair. I just think that if people want this section to grow, then behave this season and guarentee yourself a place there with a season ticket next season!! 17 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: You can't guarantee a seat next season. They'll already garanteed for the people currently in there. It's a closed shop. Common sense says make it bigger but I won't hold my breath. This is my point, chances are 85% if not more already in that corner will renew meaning its very difficult for new faces to get involved as seats will already be snapped up.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, pongo88 said: These are all reasonable suggestions apart from one fact - there are already people sitting in these areas, who are quite happy where they are, and don’t want to move. Although there are people who want to stand there are even more who want to sit. I think in some instances you have to be a bit utilitarian about these things. There are cases when people will have to move for the greater good. I think they should expand it into the lower Dolman - it is intended to be safe standing there anyway eventually.
richwwtk Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, pongo88 said: These are all reasonable suggestions apart from one fact - there are already people sitting in these areas, who are quite happy where they are, and don’t want to move. Although there are people who want to stand there are even more who want to sit. That will be the case wherever you expand into, and was indeed the case for a lot of people (including myself) last season when the area was moved from the Atyeo. It's a minor inconvenience I guess, but having to move around the South Stand wouldn't be much of a grind. It's not really been there long enough yet for anyone to get TOO attached to their seat. I don't think anyone can refute the fact that the atmosphere in the ground has been improved for their presence, and expansion can only help to spread that further.
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 1 minute ago, richwwtk said: That will be the case wherever you expand into, and was indeed the case for a lot of people (including myself) last season when the area was moved from the Atyeo. It's a minor inconvenience I guess, but having to move around the South Stand wouldn't be much of a grind. It's not really been there long enough yet for anyone to get TOO attached to their seat. I don't think anyone can refute the fact that the atmosphere in the ground has been improved for their presence, and expansion can only help to spread that further. Absolutely it has and it does need to grow. Regarding the `not too attached` bit though it would need to be carefully done so groups don`t have to split up - there`s six of us for instance and we wouldn`t be happy if we had to sit all over the place. Every problem has a solution though so if we all want the same thing it should be able to be worked out.
Ohbasso Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 It's definitely something the club need to look at. That area sold out very quickly and currently has no space to grow. I don't know if they'll be able to do anything before the end of the season but for next season hopefully they'll be able to make it bigger or create another unreserved area. There's clearly more people that want to stand in an unreserved area than what's been allowed for, ideally it would be a big enough area to have potd tickets on sale in there too. There's plenty of empty seats in the stadium so it's definitely doable it just needs one more season of upheaval for everyone to hopefully get it right.
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Why is it season ticket only? Are all 'singing sections' behind goals across the country season ticket only? Supposing they expanded it with existing season ticket holders then say into S24 POTD...could be useful for a steady expansion and remove the element of closed shop, perhaps upper S24 as part of singing section.
Bristol Rob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Why is it season ticket only? Are all 'singing sections' behind goals across the country season ticket only? Supposing they expanded it with existing season ticket holders then say into S24 POTD...could be useful for a steady expansion and remove the element of closed shop, perhaps upper S24 as part of singing section. Guess a lot of the 'season ticket only thing is because of the unreserved nature of it. Should there be any social problems they'll have half a chance of identifying who was involved, rather than in an allocated seat where they can likely trace someone from where they have had to sit. Guess work on my part that however.
Stoke_Gifford_Red Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Why is it season ticket only? Are all 'singing sections' behind goals across the country season ticket only? Supposing they expanded it with existing season ticket holders then say into S24 POTD...could be useful for a steady expansion and remove the element of closed shop, perhaps upper S24 as part of singing section. All available spaces sold out in this area (extremely quickly) as season tickets. Think it could be beneficial to expand it as the demand is clearly there. The question is how much additional space should be set aside and the logistics of it - as others have said expanding into S24 will restrict views of those sitting in adjacent "seated" blocks. Of course, that assumes the club /Bristol sport are even interested in expanding this section.
City fan 1982 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 When we moved to the south stand , yet another move , we went in having to each pay another 50 quid each per season and plenty of Communication from city saying if it proves popular there will be scope to expand the signing area. I don't know if someone can find a letter or email from the club proving this ? One for the trust etc to raise at next meeting.
AshtonPark Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I dont think it is at all possible for much expansion, due to sight lines when people are stood up. So people in other blocks, their view will be impeded by the other block standing. I think its safe to say, what we have got now, is it.
Bristol Rob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Safe standing’s surprise byproduct? It might help the home team’s game https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/22/football-safe-standing-home-advantage-studies?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
RedM Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, kivsy said: When we moved to the south stand , yet another move , we went in having to each pay another 50 quid each per season and plenty of Communication from city saying if it proves popular there will be scope to expand the signing area. I don't know if someone can find a letter or email from the club proving this ? One for the trust etc to raise at next meeting. I don't think the extra £50 is neither here nor there, it's the going rate for the stand. It sounds like you are saying you only moved there because there was agreement you could expand? I don't think you had the choice, clearly you couldn't stay in the Atyeo as the club had planned to make it all away, and on days like Saturday you can understand why. I think it's great that the singers are there, can't see them being anywhere else. There is talk on here of expanding along the front of the Dolman, but that's hard now ST holders have been in there for a while, and of course it will be another £50 increase or there abouts I guess?
City fan 1982 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I'm not to bothered about £50 however anything to do with city usually costs extra ! I'm frustrated as the club were the ones who promised in their communications with the fans that there was scope to expand the singing section if demand was there , the fact it sold out tells you that demand is there . I'm sure I didn't imagine receiving emails and a letter asking me for me season ticket money 6 months upfront
Bristol Rob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, kivsy said: I'm not to bothered about £50 however anything to do with city usually costs extra ! I'm frustrated as the club were the ones who promised in their communications with the fans that there was scope to expand the singing section if demand was there , the fact it sold out tells you that demand is there . I'm sure I didn't imagine receiving emails and a letter asking me for me season ticket money 6 months upfront As far as I know they haven't said it can't be expanded, so I'm not sure why there is an anxiety on the issue. It would make sense though if they thought that safe standing was going to be installed in the next couple of years to wait for that before moving people again.
AshtonPark Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: As far as I know they haven't said it can't be expanded, so I'm not sure why there is an anxiety on the issue. It would make sense though if they thought that safe standing was going to be installed in the next couple of years to wait for that before moving people again. There isnt any possiblity it can expand further along the south stand. It isn't possible due to sight lines.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 34 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Safe standing’s surprise byproduct? It might help the home team’s game https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/22/football-safe-standing-home-advantage-studies?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard I think there's definitely some truth in that. There's clearly a reason why Liverpool raise their game during big European ties at Anfield and why Celtic get so many good results in Europe at Celtic park. Having a good atmosphere home and away is worth an extra few points a season. For example there was no way Swindon were going to beat us at home when AG was rocking like that in 13/14.. likewise Palace back in 07/08 in the Playoffs. Some may not like this, but I believe fans who actively support the team (singing, standing, chanting etc) make more of a positive impact on the players and team than those who sit in relative quiet and don't get involved as much. I believe clubs should be doing all they can to cultivate atmosphere at games and make singing sections or similar as big and inclusive as possible.
Blagdon red Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 The area is clearly proving a victim of its own popularity. It's great that it's so popular and it has certainly improved the atmosphere. The season ticket issue and high level of stewarding are both elements to keep the SAG assured that (a) the club know who is in that space and (b) it does not get overcrowded by fans with tickets for other areas moving into it to join in the fun. As regards expansion, there was indeed some talk of this at FAN meetings back in the spring of last year ... BUT it was also recognised that there was only very limited scope, because if you start moving across towards the centre of the South Stand, you block the view of the corner flag for fans sat immediately adjacent to anyone standing. The only adjoining space that you could expand into in due course without creating sightline problems would be on the back X rows of the South Stand, stretching all the way across. That way there would be no seated fans to either side whose views could be blocked. However, that clearly couldn't be done mid-season (as that wouldn't be fair on fans with STs on those rows) and even if it were to be looked at next summer, it presents two major challenges: (1) placating fans with STs on those rows who want to sit and (2) overcoming the issue of gradient. The back of the South Stand is steeper than the SE quadrant and it is almost certain that there would be objections on those grounds to any relaxed approach to standing in that area. When rail seats are finally allowed, however, it will be a different matter, as with rails along every row the gradient will then no longer pose any risk of fans falling forward.
UREDS_91 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 If they're going to have stewards on every aisle checking the tickets that's fine. Just make sure they know what they are doing. I was told to stand in my seat in S26 instead of going to the spot i usually head to in the corner of S25. After politely stating my point to the steward around 10 times they were having none of it, it was at that point 3 fans sat down started to also state that the whole of the singing section blocks are unreserved and you can go anywhere. Still, nothing. Eventually the steward turned to another steward for help, at which point they said... Yep its all unreserved, stand where you like....... All this took 5/10 mins. Never has this emoji summed up my feelings more aptly.
pongo88 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Ohbasso said: It's definitely something the club need to look at. That area sold out very quickly and currently has no space to grow. I don't know if they'll be able to do anything before the end of the season but for next season hopefully they'll be able to make it bigger or create another unreserved area. There's clearly more people that want to stand in an unreserved area than what's been allowed for, ideally it would be a big enough area to have potd tickets on sale in there too. There's plenty of empty seats in the stadium so it's definitely doable it just needs one more season of upheaval for everyone to hopefully get it right. There are indeed seats that aren’t allocated to season ticket holders, but they they are scattered at random around the ground. There is no large area that’s empty for the standing group to move into without blocking the view of others. Another issue is the spare capacity is not as great as it seams. The upper Lansdown isn’t open except for the family enclosure, the Atyeo is exclusively away fans, and the “posh seats” in the centre of the Lansdown are for those on a hospitality package. After deducting the approx 13k season tickets the remaining empty seats are mainly just individual seats or groups of two or three. This is of no use to larger groups of people who currently sit together and would be forced to move. Unfortunately there are other issues that might prevent expansion. First, the constant minority who have the “rules don’t apply to me, I can do what I want” attitude. The club set up the standing section and initially worked on the basis of trust. This trust has been abused and the club has been forced to use stewards to ensure the area isn’t over crowed. Second, where there is standing, 10% of the tickets can’t be sold. Unless the upper Lansdown is opened, it’s difficult to keep losing 10% of individual sections of the ground.
Ohbasso Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, pongo88 said: There are indeed seats that aren’t allocated to season ticket holders, but they they are scattered at random around the ground. There is no large area that’s empty for the standing group to move into without blocking the view of others. Another issue is the spare capacity is not as great as it seams. The upper Lansdown isn’t open except for the family enclosure, the Atyeo is exclusively away fans, and the “posh seats” in the centre of the Lansdown are for those on a hospitality package. After deducting the approx 13k season tickets the remaining empty seats are mainly just individual seats or groups of two or three. This is of no use to larger groups of people who currently sit together and would be forced to move. Unfortunately there are other issues that might prevent expansion. First, the constant minority who have the “rules don’t apply to me, I can do what I want” attitude. The club set up the standing section and initially worked on the basis of trust. This trust has been abused and the club has been forced to use stewards to ensure the area isn’t over crowed. Second, where there is standing, 10% of the tickets can’t be sold. Unless the upper Lansdown is opened, it’s difficult to keep losing 10% of individual sections of the ground. Opening the Lansdown was my thinking, apparently lots of people want to move up there which would create more space. Having a larger or another unreserved area is possible it'll just mean moving some people about.
Bristol Rob Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, pongo88 said: There are indeed seats that aren’t allocated to season ticket holders, but they they are scattered at random around the ground. There is no large area that’s empty for the standing group to move into without blocking the view of others. Another issue is the spare capacity is not as great as it seams. The upper Lansdown isn’t open except for the family enclosure, the Atyeo is exclusively away fans, and the “posh seats” in the centre of the Lansdown are for those on a hospitality package. After deducting the approx 13k season tickets the remaining empty seats are mainly just individual seats or groups of two or three. This is of no use to larger groups of people who currently sit together and would be forced to move. Unfortunately there are other issues that might prevent expansion. First, the constant minority who have the “rules don’t apply to me, I can do what I want” attitude. The club set up the standing section and initially worked on the basis of trust. This trust has been abused and the club has been forced to use stewards to ensure the area isn’t over crowed. Second, where there is standing, 10% of the tickets can’t be sold. Unless the upper Lansdown is opened, it’s difficult to keep losing 10% of individual sections of the ground. Re the upper Lansdown. Be very surprised if the club wanted to expose the kids in the family stand to some of the 'language' used within some of the tuneful ditties that get sung. Chances are, the kids would love it and the parents would probably go with the 'it's a word used at football, not at school, and don't tell your nan you have a new word' approach, but i would guess it's unlikely.
RedM Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Re the upper Lansdown. Be very surprised if the club wanted to expose the kids in the family stand to some of the 'language' used within some of the tuneful ditties that get sung. Chances are, the kids would love it and the parents would probably go with the 'it's a word used at football, not at school, and don't tell your nan you have a new word' approach, but i would guess it's unlikely. The stand is plenty big enough, families right down one end, singers right up the other. If we get a match we need to sell extra capacity for like we just dud for Leeds then they can have the middle, and maybe their current space will be emptier anyway?
T R Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Blagdon red said: The area is clearly proving a victim of its own popularity. It's great that it's so popular and it has certainly improved the atmosphere. The season ticket issue and high level of stewarding are both elements to keep the SAG assured that (a) the club know who is in that space and (b) it does not get overcrowded by fans with tickets for other areas moving into it to join in the fun. As regards expansion, there was indeed some talk of this at FAN meetings back in the spring of last year ... BUT it was also recognised that there was only very limited scope, because if you start moving across towards the centre of the South Stand, you block the view of the corner flag for fans sat immediately adjacent to anyone standing. The only adjoining space that you could expand into in due course without creating sightline problems would be on the back X rows of the South Stand, stretching all the way across. That way there would be no seated fans to either side whose views could be blocked. However, that clearly couldn't be done mid-season (as that wouldn't be fair on fans with STs on those rows) and even if it were to be looked at next summer, it presents two major challenges: (1) placating fans with STs on those rows who want to sit and (2) overcoming the issue of gradient. The back of the South Stand is steeper than the SE quadrant and it is almost certain that there would be objections on those grounds to any relaxed approach to standing in that area. When rail seats are finally allowed, however, it will be a different matter, as with rails along every row the gradient will then no longer pose any risk of fans falling forward. Hi Blagdon red I have noticed this season in block 24 there is some rows of people already standing at the back of the block. Does anyone in block 23 have any issues with this. Personally I don't think it is causing any problems at the moment. I do feel that the whole of block 24 should be the next block for standing but it needs to be tested by trust members to see if there will be any line of sight issues in block 23 for the corner flag. Could a group of you test this out for tomorrow nights game? one person sitting in different seats in block 23 with a group of you standing in block 24. Though I am sure people in block 23 won't mind standing for just a few seconds to see a corner being taken. Surely this won't be an issue with the club if there isn't any line of sight problems?
South Somerset Red Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Why is it season ticket only? Are all 'singing sections' behind goals across the country season ticket only? Supposing they expanded it with existing season ticket holders then say into S24 POTD...could be useful for a steady expansion and remove the element of closed shop, perhaps upper S24 as part of singing section. well when fans can purchase their season tickets in the area of their choice this is a popular choice and ends up being a sell out area
Blagdon red Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Threshing Red said: Hi Blagdon red I have noticed this season in block 24 there is some rows of people already standing at the back of the block. Does anyone in block 23 have any issues with this. Personally I don't think it is causing any problems at the moment. I do feel that the whole of block 24 should be the next block for standing but it needs to be tested by trust members to see if there will be any line of sight issues in block 23 for the corner flag. Could a group of you test this out for tomorrow nights game? one person sitting in different seats in block 23 with a group of you standing in block 24. Though I am sure people in block 23 won't mind standing for just a few seconds to see a corner being taken. Surely this won't be an issue with the club if there isn't any line of sight problems? There WOULD be a sightline issue if you went right across block 24. As soon as you go beyond being in line with the side touchline, you will have issues. While they might not be great, the SAG wouldn't wear them. And the club is reliant on the SAG taking a tolerant view of the stewards' relaxed stance on standing in order to be able to provide a 'singing section' in the first place.
gamon Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 When you try to please everyone sometimes you please no-one. The club have had no clear strategy throughout the redevelopment. This is a by product of that missing strategy.
Vincent Vega Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I have a ticket in the unreserved section, funnily enough I don't expect to be able to sit in the Lansdown or Dolman, the Stewarding is an effect of people who have a problem understanding this very easy but basic fact. Stop blaming everyone else and take responsibility for your own actions.
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Cheers to @Blagdon red that explained it all very clearly. Rather suspected it tbh, the bit about SAG and knowing whose in there etc. I guess my question is are all areas equivalent to our S82 season ticket only in UK? I assuming answer is yes but I don't know for sure. Yeah if there's a limited number of seats in there then people have to adhere to that. On a general note, and people in there may correct me if I am wrong- please do! However from where I am in the ground the stewarding in there in general, looks like an incident waiting to happen. To me anyway. Looks quite heavy handed, read on here of course about sending in stewards, talking about cameras on people etc rather early and as a first or perhaps second resort rather than latterly. Just a layman's view but I think the club should look at that and maybe- hands maybe tied a bit by SAG or the stewards may be instructed by club and so on. However if not, the club need to look again at their approach in that area in general terms IMO.
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