reddevon Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Not seen it mentioned anywhere but above will be used in our Semi with Manchester next week. I heard on Sky yesterday that it won't be used in the home leg as we don't have the required facilities. What are we missing at ghe Gate? ( came to mind as just witnessed an offside Spurs goal!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 You can just see something controversial happening at Ashton Gate so a big fuss gets made over us not having the facility for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I thought it would not be used in either of our games as the 2nd leg can’t host it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just now, chowie said: I thought it would not be used in either of our games as the 2nd leg can’t host it? That`s what I thought, it has to be both or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Not heard that , but what are we missing at the Gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 minute ago, reddevon said: Not heard that , but what are we missing at the Gate? I’m sure it came out the same night as the draw. I don’t know what we are missing but would love to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, chowie said: I thought it would not be used in either of our games as the 2nd leg can’t host it? This announcement from the EFL certainly suggests it's all or nothing... "Both legs of the Semi-Final tie between Arsenal and Chelsea will, for the first time in EFL competition, involve the use of video assistant referees (VAR) alongside the Final at Wembley on Sunday 25th February after the League committed to support English football’s contribution to the live trial currently taking place across world football." https://www.efl.com/news/2017/december/tv-ties-confirmed-for-carabao-cup-semi-finals/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowie Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Just reading some articles, sounds like they only went around to the 20 Prem clubs to install the infrastructure. Seems it links back to Premier League setup near Heathrow. My best guess anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Appears they also thought it would be a Manchester semi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Totally opposed to VAR (and all technology at football matches). We can get rid of 4th officials, the ‘technical area’ and their crappy little board too. The last thing I want is stoppage for reviews of this and that, the like of which is used in sterile American sport such as Wimpball (otherwise referred to as American Football). To ensure Sky can have a commercial break we’ll be having a 2 minute warning of half-time next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Just announced. Hope he's not a blues fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Why is there a VAR at one game and not t’other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 International and Champions League referee. Last officiated one of our games in 2013 under S'OD when we lost 3-2 at Swindon (Nile Ranger last minute winner) - also only League One game he has reffed in past 5 years. Prior to that did a few Championship games under Gary Johnson - 1-1 at Forest in 2009 (Danny Haynes last minute equaliser), home to Ipswich 1-1 earlier that year (gave them a last minute penalty), and also late in our Play Off Final season, 2-1 at Colchester when we went top of the Championship (sent off Bradley Orr for second yellow at the end). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihajh Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Why is there a VAR at one game and not t’other? Apparently AG doesn't have the resources for it. (What they are I don't know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, dihajh said: Apparently AG doesn't have the resources for it. (What they are I don't know) The game is at the Etihad though? Or can you only use it if you can do it in both legs? Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Can't be any worse than mike dean ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, dihajh said: Apparently AG doesn't have the resources for it. (What they are I don't know) What resources are required? Surely we just need a bloke with a walkie-talkie under the West Stand giving our goals and ruling out theirs? Sit him by a microwave if it looks more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihajh Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: The game is at the Etihad though? Or can you only use it if you can do it in both legs? Odd. Needs to be used in both legs. it's Odd.. but we're talking about the FA. EDIT : Found this link http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11938/11180100/efl-selects-arsenal-v-chelsea-carabao-cup-semi-final-for-video-assistant-referee-trial Doesnt explain much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, dihajh said: Apparently AG doesn't have the resources for it. (What they are I don't know) Tbf, I thought we had Hawkeye or Goal Line Tech or whatever its called... Surely that's what the VAR ref watches anyway?? @AdamB @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO can you confirm if we have VAR suitable tech please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihajh Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I believe all championship/Prem clubs have Hawkeye/Goal line (I think that was announced at beginning of the season) however it may just be they think Chelsea/Arsenal is a better game to trial for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC@Frome Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 My guess would be all top flight matches have a huge amount of cameras covering every possible anfor on a permanent basis thanks to the TV coverage. We had plenty of cameras for the United game but as they aren't fixed it's probably a ball ache to sort out the VAR and make it accurate. Goal line/Hawkeye is a completely different and independent system which needs no human involvement apart from the ref acknowledging his "watch". What I find concerning is the fact we don't have a huge amount of officials in this country let alone high standard ones yet we are heading to a situation of 6 officials per match, in Europe with the pointless assistant referees on the goal line you are looking at 8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Bit strange to have it for one of the semi's but not the other. Can see there being a bit of upset if the Chelsea/Arsenal match has game changing decisions made by the VAR and something important is missed in ours that is pivotal to the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRERE Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: Tbf, I thought we had Hawkeye or Goal Line Tech or whatever its called... Surely that's what the VAR ref watches anyway?? @AdamB @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO can you confirm if we have VAR suitable tech please? VAR is to help make correct decisions RE fouls, card so etc. It's being used in the Bundesliga. Usually the ref will make a decision and the VAR will check the footage and advise the ref who can then watch the footage again on the side line, or in some instances the ref won't give something and the VAR will review it when the ball is out of play and tell the ref. Think it's basically like rugby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 3, 2018 Admin Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedSA said: Bit strange to have it for one of the semi's but not the other. Can see there being a bit of upset if the Chelsea/Arsenal match has game changing decisions made by the VAR and something important is missed in ours that is pivotal to the result. I see your point, but I am assuming that the FA (and everyone else) expects it to be a fairly comfortable Man City win ( maybe different on a one leg game ) whereas the London Derby of two closely matched teams should be a lot closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Read somewhere Anthony Taylor is from greater Manchester.... of all refs they could have picked they pick one from Manchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Phantom Posted January 3, 2018 Admin Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, hodge said: Read somewhere Anthony Taylor is from greater Manchester.... of all refs they could have picked they pick one from Manchester? I'm guessing he has reffed Utd and City games before - no big deal where he is from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 He's an Altrincham fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 As per title, thought the game was hard enough, but to give them a local homer??, even if he supports united he will be pissed off with us Anthony Taylor (born 20 October 1978) is an English professional football referee from Wythenshawe, Manchester. In 2010, he was promoted to the list of Select Group Referees who officiate primarily in the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: As per title, thought the game was hard enough, but to give them a local homer??, even if he supports united he will be pissed off with us Anthony Taylor (born 20 October 1978) is an English professional football referee from Wythenshawe, Manchester. In 2010, he was promoted to the list of Select Group Referees who officiate primarily in the Premier League probably a stockport county fan.....either that or a wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 In fairness, how hard can it be to give it to some other bastard from East Anglia or somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: As per title, thought the game was hard enough, but to give them a local homer??, even if he supports united he will be pissed off with us Anthony Taylor (born 20 October 1978) is an English professional football referee from Wythenshawe, Manchester. In 2010, he was promoted to the list of Select Group Referees who officiate primarily in the Premier League Username checks out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parsons Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Septic Peg said: Tbf, I thought we had Hawkeye or Goal Line Tech or whatever its called... Surely that's what the VAR ref watches anyway?? @AdamB @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO can you confirm if we have VAR suitable tech please? As it stands Ashton Gate is not set up to accommodate VAR, so both the home leg and the away leg at the Etihad will be exempt from using VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Who cares! Anyone who believes refs are biased, and would look such on tv, should crawl off into a catacomb somewhere and read Dan Brown books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Parsons Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: What’s required to have it set up or of interest @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO ? I don't know the detailed tech spec/reason is to give you a proper answer right now. All I know is that whatever it is, we don't currently have it! I'll add it to the list to try and find out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 OTIB for your eyes only! Shhhsh... But we've got the 'important tech' at A G ..... Haven't you noticed the sometimes strange bounce of the ball at our home games? ..... & the number of times 'unlucky' opponents have hit the woodwork at The Gate in recent times? Coincidence? ... Nah, don't believe it, ... Just between you and me it's all down to Lansdown and his secret weapon.... Steve Lansdown sat high up in the posh seats, frantically playing with his joystick under his program (behave yourselves ) ..he's remote controlling the flight of the ball with his high tech 'magnetatron' and activating our 'special' goal posts.... been doing an unbelievable job so far! Well Done Steve... The secrets safe with us on Otib, keep up the good work. PS... So please, Don't keep on about what 'tech' we have or don't have.. The last thing we need right now is some official idiot snooping around the place... O K ? Now delete this post before some Gas *****r from the local rag reads it and puts it on tomorrows front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 The Daily Mail have done the best article I've seen on how it works. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5223693/Video-Assistant-Referee-technology-explained.html I guess we might not be fully wired up to the "Premier League Match Centre". I had assumed the VAR would be at the ground (as with TV umpires in cricket) but nope they're in a darkened room near Heathrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Matt Parsons BCFCSLO said: I don't know the detailed tech spec/reason is to give you a proper answer right now. All I know is that whatever it is, we don't currently have it! I'll add it to the list to try and find out for you. @Matt Parsons BCFCSLO . Don't mention the 'magnetatron' .... I did once but I think I got away with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 It's been used in an England freindly but nothing of note happened. I think I saw it in an under 21 match in the summer when the ref used it to send off a Brazilian for z bad foul against England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Saw it used November when watching Cologne Hertha Berlin. Cologne appealed for a handball in the box, red didn’t give it. They asked for VAR, when ball went out of play ref walked over to side of pitch watched a playback of the incident on a laptop and decided no pen. Took 30secs for her to decide on the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: her ???? Computers in football and now Women? Whatever next... Games gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said: her ???? Computers in football and now Women? Whatever next... 2 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Games gone Cheeky buggers. Good job I know you two are having a giggle or I'd be calling Dolly and RedM and we'd be showing you exactly what us girls can do with a football... Actually that's probably TMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Mike Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Sneak peak on Sky Sports now, Arsenal vs Chelsea.. Taylor the man in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Septic Peg said: Cheeky buggers. Good job I know you two are having a giggle or I'd be calling Dolly and RedM and we'd be showing you exactly what us girls can do with a football... Actually that's probably TMI. Don't know what you're planning, but if its anything like I'm imagining then I think that's illegal under the Geneva convention Peg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Didn`t work that well in the Confederations Cup IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, BCFC_Mike said: Sneak peak on Sky Sports now, Arsenal vs Chelsea.. Taylor the man in the middle. Has done pretty well so far. Seen through a couple of "dives" by Arsenal, perhaps could have given Wilshire a second yellow for his . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddevon said: Has done pretty well so far. Seen through a couple of "dives" by Arsenal, perhaps could have given Wilshire a second yellow for his . Oh dear.... Should he be on the pitch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Mike Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 ... Should that have been a pen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevon Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, BCFC_Mike said: ... Should that have been a pen.... Get the bad decisions out the way tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCFC Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 11 hours ago, hodge said: Read somewhere Anthony Taylor is from greater Manchester.... of all refs they could have picked they pick one from Manchester? Trust me, he is absolutely despised by just about every single Blue I know. Read into that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ziderheadarmy said: Whose joking? i bet you kick worse than fielding... Nope. Your backside will feel the full force of my size 8s if required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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