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“Hard Sun” BBC trailer - Ashton Gate?


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8 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Yep and that Stand ain’t the Dolman...

It’s obviously not the Dolman but it looks an awful lot like the Lansdown. From the angle you wouldn’t really see the Dolman as it’s not tall enough. Anyway, just wondering!

Also if it is, that has to be a sunrise and not a sunset!

I think the 3 block thing probably settles it, although possibly one could be hidden behind another.

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6 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

It’s obviously not the Dolman but it looks an awful lot like the Lansdown. From the angle you wouldn’t really see the Dolman as it’s not tall enough. Anyway, just wondering!

Also if it is, that has to be a sunrise and not a sunset!

I think the 3 block thing probably settles it, although possibly one could be hidden behind another.

Yep but even if it was the Lansdown, the flats are in the wrong place...

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While it can look like the gate. Im not convinced. While its plausible that the tower on the left is blocking the 3rd tower behind it, the roof shape of the tower in the middle is wrong. Also to be looking this way requires you to face south-south east-ish. Sorry bad pic, I'm on mobile.

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3 minutes ago, CrazyInWeston said:

While it can look like the gate. Im not convinced. While its plausible that the tower on the left is blocking the 3rd tower behind it, the roof shape of the tower in the middle is wrong. Also to be looking this way requires you to face south-south east-ish. Sorry bad pic, I'm on mobile.

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Yep, the flat roof and the fact that the Ashton ones are double blocks.

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4 minutes ago, CrazyInWeston said:

While it can look like the gate. Im not convinced. While its plausible that the tower on the left is blocking the 3rd tower behind it, the roof shape of the tower in the middle is wrong. Also to be looking this way requires you to face south-south east-ish. Sorry bad pic, I'm on mobile.

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The other issue is the left-hand tower has the extra bit on the top, whereas the blocks around Ashton Gate are clearly identical. I’m satisfied it’s not The Gate and think it’s probably Upton Park!

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5 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

The other issue is the left-hand tower has the extra bit on the top, whereas the blocks around Ashton Gate are clearly identical. I’m satisfied it’s not The Gate and think it’s probably Upton Park!

I don't think it's Upton Park either. The blocks are not the same

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Must be taken from the top of the Bristol Record Offices on the Cumberland Basin for that height and angle?

Always an amazing view in the summer when the sun sets over Ashton Court and beams back across BS3.

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Oh wait have we established it's not us? Tower blocks must be East of the ground for the sun to be south by south west, which is more or less correct for AG, but it should be to the right of the gantry in the photo and behind the sports bar for any other angle.

This is a photo taken North East of the ground it refers to, and where there is a clear horizon in the distance. Not many grounds this can apply to. At Orient the separate tower blocks (not the ones built into the stand) are definitely North East of the ground. Which is this angle.

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Have given ChippenhamRed's original a bit of a tweak and hope this might shed some more light on the case. I had originally thought the ironwork is redolent of the Atyeo but is clearly not.

Hope this helps

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Hope it's not the reflection of ChippenhamRed's furniture...:P

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I have just toured google maps in 3d and still can't find the stadium.

Any detectives out there... large city based stadium (tower blocks, large stand), possible open one end to allow photo accross the stand, horizon has trees and is hilly which suggests suburban location.... good luck!

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It could be anywhere in the country, but it could also be a cricket ground. I thought it might have been the Oval for a while as it looks like there is a low stand with white seats

it also might not be a sports ground at all. It’s a bit tall to be on the roof of a stand.

in summary, good luck. I need sleep.

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15 minutes ago, Ciudad Bristol said:

Got to be Upton. Maybe inverted image and with telephoto lens so those towers are miles away in North Woolwich or something? Spent too much time on it. I give up.

There's only a lift tower room on one tower so I'm not sure now. No idea to be honest.

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Okay, I've seen the scene, you really cant get anything more of detail from the original picture, its way too dark except that its a sunrise and not a sunset, so its definitely in the eastwards looking direction. 

After careful consideration I've declared that if it IS indeed a stadium, the steel gantry goes across the length of the pitch and not the width, but then I could be wrong.

Anyhoo, for those who still want to see a direct source, below are two pictures, one original and one slightly tweaked to the best of my ability.

(Sorry about the blocky pixels, BBC iPlayer for you)

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It was filmed in London and Anglesey and it wouldn’t make any sense (financially or creatively) to do pick-up shots anywhere else.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/hard-sun-on-bbc-one-cast-locations-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-bbc-thriller-a3733536.html%3famp

I’m going to say it’s The Emirates. There are a few more tower blocks next to the two, top right of the pic, but you could easily frame them out...

 

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8 minutes ago, SydneyCity said:

It was filmed in London and Anglesey and it wouldn’t make any sense (financially or creatively) to do pick-up shots anywhere else.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/stayingin/tvfilm/hard-sun-on-bbc-one-cast-locations-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-bbc-thriller-a3733536.html%3famp

I’m going to say it’s The Emirates. There are a few more tower blocks next to the two, top right of the pic, but you could easily frame them out...

 

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I would say it isn't because of the way the steelwork stops at a straight end......all those on the Emirates either curve or connect to something.

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FFS I think I've checked every football stadium on Google Images now. Charlton doesn't work as not that many cantilevers (but does have identical tower block with the lift shaft). Emirates has identical tower blocks but cantilever isn't square (and I've been by it on the train out of Kings Cross loads of times and the horizon is not empty around there). Norwich actually has a similar cantilever and the high rise hotel to the side, but the cantilever curves. I'm prepared to say this is NOT a football stadium.

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8 hours ago, Erithacus said:

Have given ChippenhamRed's original a bit of a tweak and hope this might shed some more light on the case. I had originally thought the ironwork is redolent of the Atyeo but is clearly not.

Hope this helps

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Hope it's not the reflection of ChippenhamRed's furniture...:P

Your tweaking has clearly revealed Upton Park in my opinion! Look at the cladding at the end of the stand (just above the “one”). Exact match!

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8 minutes ago, Olé said:

FFS I think I've checked every football stadium on Google Images now. Charlton doesn't work as not that many cantilevers (but does have identical tower block with the lift shaft). Emirates has identical tower blocks but cantilever isn't square (and I've been by it on the train out of Kings Cross loads of times and the horizon is not empty around there). Norwich actually has a similar cantilever and the high rise hotel to the side, but the cantilever curves. I'm prepared to say this is NOT a football stadium.

Absolutely convinced it’s Upton Park (see above)

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1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Absolutely convinced it’s Upton Park (see above)

I'm not. Can't believe how sad I am to be even typing this, but it has cantilevers with a single diagonal strut, the one in the photo is mostly two struts crossing over. Also there are additional tower blocks in the line of sight opposite the main stand which should be visible on the horizon.

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6 minutes ago, Olé said:

I'm not. Can't believe how sad I am to be even typing this, but it has cantilevers with a single diagonal strut, the one in the photo is mostly two struts crossing over. Also there are additional tower blocks in the line of sight opposite the main stand which should be visible on the horizon.

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Fellow saddo here! I don’t think they are two struts crossing over, I think it’s a single diagonal strut with separate perpendicular struts heading towards the back of the stand! Which adds up for Upton Park. I also think the angle of the shot may preclude the additional blocks.

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I think the producer gave you guys a clue (note I'm not up to speed enough on London stadia to help!) when talking about the magic of television and sending crews out for "Views and Vistas) - my guess is that the clip is a composite showing the ground in question, plus an unconnected "surround"

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4 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Fellow saddo here! I don’t think they are two struts crossing over, I think it’s a single diagonal strut with separate perpendicular struts heading towards the back of the stand! Which adds up for Upton Park. I also think the angle of the shot may preclude the additional blocks.

I'm now entering psychopathic levels of geekiness, but the tower block to the right in the photo I just posted - it is so high it would have to be in the shot, and yet it can't be the one with the shaft on the roof in the shot, as quite clearly the shaft in that shot is several storeys high (or as high as the remainder of the roof is wide) and the one by Upton Park is a single storey, height equivalent only to half the roof width around it. :noexp:

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5 minutes ago, Olé said:

I'm now entering psychopathic levels of geekiness, but the tower block to the right in the photo I just posted - it is so high it would have to be in the shot, and yet it can't be the one with the shaft on the roof in the shot, as quite clearly the shaft in that shot is several storeys high (or as high as the remainder of the roof is wide) and the one by Upton Park is a single storey, height equivalent only to half the roof width around it. :noexp:

In my mind the shot was captured from the red dot in the direction I’ve marked below, so the tower block to the right wouldn’t be in the shot! This backs up the cladding thing further up!

This is utterly tragic.

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3 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I’m convinced the ends of the stand match up to Upton, which suggests a composite shot as @semblar mentioned.

Was the stadium significant to the show? (I don't watch TV). I don't understand why they'd make a composite skyline shot to get them both in.

Still think the cantilevers are too high and with cross struts so can't be Upton Park. At this point I'm convinced that it is not a football stadium.

:whistle: Geeking out now. The ends of the stand bit, to me that is too soft a shape to be a structure, perhaps it is just lens flare, if you mean this bit:

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