Jacky Boy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I'm sorry to say this again, far too soft, they be talented bunch but they lack serious character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I could see this thread coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Thats what happens when you rely on the same core of players to play a high press game for 6 months, then do nothing in the january transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, !james said: I could see this thread coming. And had time to form a coherent retort, but you failed. He's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, !james said: I could see this thread coming. Hardly a surprise when we keep throwing games away. As much as some may hate to admit it this team are not showing the fighting mentality they have in the cup run. We've played two games against Man City and beaten Man Utd showing no fear. In this game, it looks like the players are scared of their ******* shadows and are clinging on for dear life! We've just got deeper and deeper into our own third and now we're just hitting it long and hoping, it's f*cking woeful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jacky Boy said: I'm sorry to say this again, far too soft, they be talented bunch but they lack serious character. Steady. You will upset some of the happy clapping fan boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, simon uk said: Thats what happens when you rely on the same core of players to play a high press game for 6 months, then do nothing in the january transfer window. Or make a sub before 75 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 iegardless of result I would prefer to see the soft side of football displayed e.g. Passing the ball accurately to a team mate. All this hard long ball scrapping for bits .. If you are that uncomfortable in possession that it has to launched every two or three passes conceding goals can come as no surprise. City have taken plaudits for the quality of their football. That was Bristol Rovers like hoofing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Joke of a result 2 points dropped again Kent woeful performance again just pass the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Tomarse said: Or make a sub before 75 mins Spot on, LJ just didn't react to the subs make by Higgenbottom. Fammy looked well tired and Brownhill seemed off the pace too. Change those two whilst we are 2 up and I don't think we drop the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 For 45 minutes we were superb. We then looked leggy after an hour. Brownhill and Famara weren't as sharp and the cohesion fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 No blame With Johnson this week as far as I’m concerned. Defence shocking and Fammy should have set up Smith a minute before they get their first goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Mao Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 This tired side will be butchered by Fulham on Wednesday. Might get ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 This week and last week is the reason we won’t stay in playoffs. We still lack that experience/and or extra quality to see games out, game management is something you learn over time and we still have a young team. O’Neil could be handy rest of season for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Pathetic capitulation. Did Johnson learn nothing from last week? Leeds were rubbish too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Any kind of pressure and they fold again. No leaders, players are mentally weak. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: No blame With Johnson this week as far as I’m concerned. Defence shocking and Fammy should have set up Smith a minute before they get their first goal. and that is the point, Fammy looked knackered hence his tired pass to Smith, so yes blame to LJ for not taking him off earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Would have taken a point before the game and based on the 2nd half....will take it now On to Wednesday.....we are after all, as we were before a ball was kicked on Saturday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Should have made changes afeer Leeds subs as they were starting to dominate possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B block Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, simon uk said: Thats what happens when you rely on the same core of players to play a high press game for 6 months, then do nothing in the january transfer window. Spot on, if you play high tempo you have to have the staff to cope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 We play like a team for the first 45 minutes and our mistake is that we go in for half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Chokers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: We play like a team for the first 45 minutes and our mistake is that we go in for half time Sorry but we only played well for the last 15 of the first half. Other than that we were bang average against an awful side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Someone say that Baker is back on Wednesday. Our record without him can't be a good sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Boy Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Cowshed said: iegardless of result I would prefer to see the soft side of football displayed e.g. Passing the ball accurately to a team mate. All this hard long ball scrapping for bits .. If you are that uncomfortable in possession that it has to launched every two or three passes conceding goals can come as no surprise. City have taken plaudits for the quality of their football. That was Bristol Rovers like hoofing. I'm sorry we didn't play much football second half apart from one very good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, B block said: Spot on, if you play high tempo you have to have the staff to cope If you play high tempo and high lines you also should intend to keep the ball. The more its hoofed, the more running there is to be done, the more the team gets stretched ... And on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon uk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, B block said: Spot on, if you play high tempo you have to have the staff to cope Yes,, im dissapointed with the club,, we have sell outs in the cup raising fortunes, averaging over 20000, season tickets going through the roof, confortably in the top 6 with real momentum, and a billionaire owner, and the 3 players brought in have barely made any impact. There have been heroics this season, the players and manager have given everything, but they have been let down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, old_eastender said: and that is the point, Fammy looked knackered hence his tired pass to Smith, so yes blame to LJ for not taking him off earlier. The point is we still looked dangerous and more likely to score than them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 We lack experience and knowhow when the going gets tough. This is why GON could be so crucial to us in the run in. We play some sublime stuff at times but that doesn’t get you up if you can’t see games out. Baker’s return can’t come soon enough either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Londoner said: Sorry but we only played well for the last 15 of the first half. Other than that we were bang average against an awful side You must have been watching a different match to me then? We scored both goals in the first 16 minutes and started to slow down towards the end of the first half in preparation for being inept in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: You must have been watching a different match to me then? We scored both goals in the first 16 minutes and started to slow down towards the end of the first half in preparation for being inept in the second half. Yes so what we scored 2 goals we didn' do it by playing excellent football we did because of mistakes!!! Leeds came into the game and you could see us losing composure and them starting to dominate possession. If you think we played well first half you'e deluded we were ok against a dire team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Londoner said: Yes so what we scored 2 goals we didn' do it by playing excellent football we did because of mistakes!!! Leeds came into the game and you could see us losing composure and them starting to dominate possession. If you think we played well first half you'e deluded we were ok against a dire team We went 2 up away from home at Leeds which is never easy. Yes Leeds were dire but we played ok, I didn't think we were playing like Barcelona by any stretch. The problem was that Leeds stepped up and we got worse. Same problems as last season creeping back in. 5 points chucked away in games we should have wrapped up. There is no need of it. Frustration abounds tonight, but it's typical City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Only surprise was we didnt lose in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: We went 2 up away from home at Leeds which is never easy. Yes Leeds were dire but we played ok, I didn't think we were playing like Barcelona by any stretch. The problem was that Leeds stepped up and we got worse. Same problems as last season creeping back in. 5 points chucked away in games we should have wrapped up. There is no need of it. Frustration abounds tonight, but it's typical City. Yes we agree. We played ok first half. We certainly weren' excellent or good or anything above ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Tell what's coming...................Baker's back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 While the league table shows we've progressed in the last 12 months we seem to have regressed in the last few weeks. I remember all the jokes a year ago about needing to be 3 or 4 up to win. It seems now we haven't progressed as far as we thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 points dropped.....................however it's sugar coated, , 3-0 and 2-0 leads thrown away...............LJ i t's time to organise and manage victories, rather than squander winning positions. There is a lack of organisation.........please sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I could see it coming at 2-0 second half. Pushing players like Smith forward, joining in attacks. I just don't get it. Keep a solid shape like as if we were playing QPR with 10 men again, when we looked solid. They were beginning to win most of the the loose balls, and were getting down our sides far too easy. Put Reid back into midfield, or even bring on Walsh. We desperately needed an extra man in midfeld imo. Or even bring Brownhill inside and put on another wide man. Also needed to bring on Diony for Famara who was knackered. Yep. I don' understand this obsession with brownhill out wide. Square pegs in round holes again. At 70 minutes j could see it too with Leeds starting to dominate possssion and for the first time in the game look like threatening especially the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereks no1 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, simon uk said: Thats what happens when you rely on the same core of players to play a high press game for 6 months, then do nothing in the january transfer window. Agree although imagine if we had O'Dowda, Pisano, Djuric and O'Niel on the bench to bring on. O'Dowda is being sorely missed IMO. LJ had a pretty poor bench when looking to secure the game at 2-0/2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Spike said: Hardly a surprise when we keep throwing games away. As much as some may hate to admit it this team are not showing the fighting mentality they have in the cup run. We've played two games against Man City and beaten Man Utd showing no fear. In this game, it looks like the players are scared of their ******* shadows and are clinging on for dear life! We've just got deeper and deeper into our own third and now we're just hitting it long and hoping, it's f*cking woeful! Probably, the biggest thing we are missing. Most of the players seemed to shirk the 50/50s and were afraid to put their foot in where it hurts. Regardless of the other mistakes that preceded theri goals, neither did Bryan or Wright put in enough of a strong challenge to stop their two scorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Cowshed said: iegardless of result I would prefer to see the soft side of football displayed e.g. Passing the ball accurately to a team mate. All this hard long ball scrapping for bits .. If you are that uncomfortable in possession that it has to launched every two or three passes conceding goals can come as no surprise. City have taken plaudits for the quality of their football. That was Bristol Rovers like hoofing. Do you think we're not quite fit enough to keep up our pressing game? We seemed to descend in to the hoof ball the longer the game went on. Of course the lack of quality squad depth plays into this as well, as Lee seems reluctant to introduce subs to keep the energy high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, dereks no1 said: Agree although imagine if we had O'Dowda, Pisano, Djuric and O'Niel on the bench to bring on. O'Dowda is being sorely missed IMO. LJ had a pretty poor bench when looking to secure the game at 2-0/2-1 Disagree; Diony or Pato for Fammy, Pato or Walsh for Brownhill whilst we are still 2 up and I think we go on to see the game out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, RedSA said: Do you think we're not quite fit enough to keep up our pressing game? We seemed to descend in to the hoof ball the longer the game went on. Of course the lack of quality squad depth plays into this as well, as Lee seems reluctant to introduce subs to keep the energy high. If you want to press consistently it pays to be close to the ball. In possession and out. The best pressing teams will be compact in lines . City's patterns (??) of play to today were pass, pass , smack ... Players have to then cover serious distances to press in a unit. There was consistently fifty metres from back to front creating space for Leeds to play through, as City were strung out.. Play tighter and lose it the team is then in a better position due to having more players closer to the ball to win it back or to screen. The players are not fit enough to keep up that game, because its not the one they were playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonRobin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Lacked a real leader on the pitch after Leeds scored their first. Looked nervous and sat back too much. Baker’s return on Weds is much needed. He will help Just calm things down as well as organise. Think some of these players, who lets not forget are very young, are feeling the pressure. We are in the top 6 and in sight of the ‘prize’ and the pressure is getting to some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Buster said: Joke of a result 2 points dropped again Kent woeful performance again just pass the ball He wasn’t woeful in the first half. He was bloody good. But as the second half progressed he did keep trying to run through the opposition and losing the ball. The time for LJ to tell him to pass the f. g thing or take him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, WestonRobin said:Lacked a real leader on the pitch after Leeds scored their first. Looked nervous and sat back too much. Baker’s return on Weds is much needed. He will help Just calm things down as well as organise. Think some of these players, who lets not forget are very young, are feeling the pressure. We are in the top 6 and in sight of the ‘prize’ and the pressure is getting to some of them. I don’t like sitting back, but we are just not very good at it! I can reel off the teams that have played with two banks of four against us, and we have not looked like ever creating a thing. When we put our mind to it, we even made it difficult for Man City twice. I think we get caught in no mans land strategically, half heartedly sitting back, but with still to many players looking for the next goal. Is a balance of course, but we are not getting it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, simon uk said: Thats what happens when you rely on the same core of players to play a high press game for 6 months, then do nothing in the january transfer window. I must agree we play a massively high energy system with little or no back up . I’m surprised we are where we be . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip Broadwalk Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 What identity was that today??? no surprises as the hoofball was Leeds ally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 lacking character? Are you serious? The same team rallied 4-1 down to Man City on aggregate to take the best team in England to the dying seconds. No lack of balls in the team. Lack of experience, yes. We've had problems closing games off and shutting them down. That comes not from any lack of character. Absolute clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I preferred that one two touch footballing side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 2 hours ago, mozo said: For 45 minutes we were superb. We then looked leggy after an hour. Brownhill and Famara weren't as sharp and the cohesion fell apart. We were far from superb. Gifted two goals and Leeds were woeful first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 We have no ability to change our shape so are becoming easy to work out as games go on . Our strikers fade from half time onwards as our midfield runs out of steam . Brown hill , Patto and Kent are all similar types of player and nothing off the bench gives us the chance to do anything differently which will effect the game . Teams have sussed that they have the full 90 mins to play their own game because ours will never change Whoever we put on the pitch . I actually think we're missing Matty Taylor who could come on and give something a little different in the no.10 role allowing Bobby to drop back and give our midfield a little energy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Baldyman said: We have no ability to change our shape so are becoming easy to work out as games go on . Our strikers fade from half time onwards as our midfield runs out of steam . Brown hill , Patto and Kent are all similar types of player and nothing off the bench gives us the chance to do anything differently which will effect the game . Teams have sussed that they have the full 90 mins to play their own game because ours will never change Whoever we put on the pitch . I actually think we're missing Matty Taylor who could come on and give something a little different in the no.10 role allowing Bobby to drop back and give our midfield a little energy ! sound far to sensible, what are you doing on here, good luck with your opinions you may be right but they wont be very popular, you cant criticise on here as I have found to my cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 May I say that our major problem is not the quality of the players (although, of course, we need strengthening in some positions and this was not addressed in the window) but our problem is clearly on the coaching side of things - e.g. Teaching Fielding to distribute, teaching Kent to pass, playing Bryan in his best position, selecting a captain who can lead on the pitch, improving set pieces (e.g. Magnússon' s free kick just outside the box yesterday), general 90 minute fitness levels etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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