UpTheReds Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Title explains thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 A match made in Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 no due diligence then?!.....oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It's about ******* time we beat them ! It will be sweeter with him in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: It's about ******* time we beat them ! It will be sweeter with him in charge. Why don’t you like Mr Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 i dont get this appointment.how can the birmingham board see it as a good thing to try this late in the season when cotts and arry couldnt get them firing. one hell of a gamble and i hope it all goes seriously tits up for them going to be a costly time for them if it does go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Why don’t you like Mr Monk? Perhaps I should have said I would rather beat Brum with Monk in charge, instead of prolonging Cotts' agony. Not really bothered by Monk to be honest, although he did throw a hissy fit when in charge of Leeds at AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Why does Garry Monk want to manage in League One? Must be paying him a mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Amazing how some managers seem to continually get decent jobs despite failure after failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, harrys said: Amazing how some managers seem to continually get decent jobs despite failure after failure Yeah, and then others end up at Birmingham..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, harrys said: Amazing how some managers seem to continually get decent jobs despite failure after failure City old boys McClaren and Moyes seem a popular choice for this but the list goes on and on. It's almost seems that some Club's would prefer to hire a confirmed failure than take a chance on creating a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Bizarre choice by both the individual and the club. Clearly Brums owner wants to stay up but giving it to a bloke who has not operated at the level of pressure he is walking in to is distictly odd ............but then they fired Rowett and gave Zola the gig. I feel sorry for their supporters but as for the owner, I hope they get relegated......... Just read the BBC article - 3.5 year deal and bringing in his coaching team........that is a big compensation package for the owner to pay out come May. Utter madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, harrys said: Amazing how some managers seem to continually get decent jobs despite failure after failure Does that include Monk taking Swansea to their highest ever finish in English league football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: City old boys McClaren and Moyes seem a popular choice for this but the list goes on and on. It's almost seems that some Club's would prefer to hire a confirmed failure than take a chance on creating a new one. Is Monk a ‘confirmed failure’ when he took Swansea to their highest English league position finish ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 What is deemed failure or failure after failure? His record ain’t too bad. Swansea was a tough Prem gig, where he did a reasonable job. Leeds, he just missed out on play offs last season. They aren’t as good a side as people expect....false expectations based on size. Boro - yeah I agree a bit disappointing based on the money they splashed in the summer. He’s the type of young manager I wouldn’t have been upset with had we gone with him instead of LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Monk is no monk , but i quite like the guy. Think he's a decent manager, but cannot for the life of me think why anyone would take that job right now.. Oh, the prospect of a big pay-off in about 6 months time? Not exactly the "sack" is it, when we talk about football managers. More like an investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: What is deemed failure or failure after failure? His record ain’t too bad. Swansea was a tough Prem gig, where he did a reasonable job. Leeds, he just missed out on play offs last season. They aren’t as good a side as people expect....false expectations based on size. Boro - yeah I agree a bit disappointing based on the money they splashed in the summer. He’s the type of young manager I wouldn’t have been upset with had we gone with him instead of LJ. Looking at his managerial history on that chart, the law of diminishing returns would seem to indicate that he will be at Brum for less than 100 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Keep right on.......until you reach L1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Strange appointment both ways for me. Birmingham need an immediate impact manager and I would’ve though Monk is more a medium/long term option. His stock is also still reasonably high. Did a good job at Leeds - basket case of a club and he’s done better than anyone else recently, and a little harshly done by at Boro. It wasn’t exactly a car crash. Cant imagine he’d want to be managing in L1. Odd whichever way you look at it. As we still have to have to play them let’s hope it goes badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Win percentage in the mid 40's at this level, will be interesting to see how he gets on, Brum have had plenty of investment just not been performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Is Monk a ‘confirmed failure’ when he took Swansea to their highest English league position finish ever? Needs to make a big impact at Brum though. Hasn't had a hit single in years, despite boosting his profile as a judge on The Voice and that short-lived dj stint on Radio X. Garry Monk at the BRITS last week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Strange how these things happen - 1st game in charge against his previous employers! Let’s hope he gets them up tomorrow tomorrow night by taking some points off of Middlesbrough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 29 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Strange how these things happen - 1st game in charge against his previous employers! Let’s hope he gets them up tomorrow tomorrow night by taking some points off of Middlesbrough! Football does have a strange way of throwing these things up. It always surprises me how often a cup tie between two clubs replicate a fixture that has been played the previous weekend or is played the following one. Witness Arsenal v Man City twice last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Outstanding appointment for brum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Loosey Boy said: Strange how these things happen - 1st game in charge against his previous employers! Let’s hope he gets them up tomorrow tomorrow night by taking some points off of Middlesbrough! New manager bounce please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I notice that on the Brum forum they all wanted Cotts as manager originally then a few weeks later they all wanted him out, it's like Groundhog day now with Monk. Birmingham's a basket case, they've had so many managers in a short time the squad is a complete mess, don't see any way they can stay up (Warnock might have done it but even he would have struggled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, Londoner said: Outstanding appointment for brum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Wasn't the real reason he was sacked from Boro because he was trying to engineer his return to Swansea? I think his record is mixed. He did have a good season with Swansea, the wheels were definitely off though by the time he was sacked and he had no answer. Signs of promise, but not sure it was much else more as there is usually a surprise package each year in the PL. With Leeds he just missed out on playoffs. Leeds seem to be a team that are top half Championship, occasionally threatening, so that seems an average type of performance. And at Boro he was failing after a big spend and trying to force his exit. Not a bad appointment, but I think it's fair to say jury is out re his abilities and question marks about his loyalty. If I was on the Brum board I'd have had Clarke right at the top of my list to be honest: showing good promise and turned around a disaster club (let's be fair, he has on the field at least) and he knows League One should the worst happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 They have more of a chance now in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 12 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Why does Garry Monk want to manage in League One? Must be paying him a mint. They pay enormous wages to bang average players so I don’t see why it should be any different for their manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, ScottishRed said: Football does have a strange way of throwing these things up. It always surprises me how often a cup tie between two clubs replicate a fixture that has been played the previous weekend or is played the following one. Witness Arsenal v Man City twice last week. And Swansea playing Sheff Weds in the Cup was another strange one. Those sort of coincidences cause me to fear football is all staged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 15 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Does that include Monk taking Swansea to their highest ever finish in English league football? What it includes is the fact that he has been sacked 3 times in 2 years yet still walks into a job at a relatively big club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, harrys said: What it includes is the fact that he has been sacked 3 times in 2 years yet still walks into a job at a relatively big club He wasn’t sacked by Leeds, he resigned just as the club wanted to activate his contract extension. He’s been sacked once in the last 2 years... https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/21929/club-statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: He wasn’t sacked by Leeds, he resigned just as the club wanted to activate his contract extension. He’s been sacked once in the last 2 years... https://www.leedsunited.com/news/team-news/21929/club-statement Ok Mrs Monk, sacked twice in 2 and quarter years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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