harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 We have a manager that was at best, a journeyman pro. The majority of City fans didn't rate him. He's only managed at the level beneath the one he is currently managing so he lacks experience at this level. He's out of his depth. Simples Ffs get rid and employ someone who knows what they are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityironman Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 He talks the talk (mainly gibberish bullshit!) but so far he can't walk the walk and in my honest opinion he never will!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Ah The great player great manager (in this case journeyman player crap manager) fallacy I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Anyone else but LJ would have felt Steve's boot up his arse before now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 What!! Give him the sack for improving our position? It's been a disappointing run but let's not lose sight that up to three or four games, left of this season, we had a chance of making the playoffs. The squad needs some work, I can't see how we need to make a change at the top as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 We shouldn’t be too surprised by the result either. My Mrs wasn’t. When I told her the result and what happened she replied “ They seem to do that quite a lot” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 We've thrown away a decent shot at promotion because we have a manager that had no idea how to do it. To not even get to the playoffs is failure compared to where we were at Christmas. I don't want mid table respectability and I don't see it as progress after the start we made to the season. Johnson blew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, harvey54 said: We've thrown away a decent shot at promotion because we have a manager that had no idea how to do it. To not even get to the playoffs is failure compared to where we were at Christmas. I don't want mid table respectability and I don't see it as progress after the start we made to the season. Johnson blew it The whole club blew it. From Ashton's 'promotion is not the aim' to recruiting loanees in positions we didn't need to players who can't handle pressure to a coach who has got himself into a state of confusion over selection and tactics. The responsibility is collective and sacking the manager will not remove the underlying problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 So............? Repeat next season? This is my concern. If Lansdown wants promotion next year something must change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 My concern is that we have players at the club who have proved that on their day they can beat anyone but........they can also throw away 3 goal leads at home to the worst team in the league, concede 5 goals at home to a team that have struggled all season etc etc. That tells me the manager isn't getting the best out of his players and can't change it when they struggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, harvey54 said: So............? Repeat next season? This is my concern. If Lansdown wants promotion next year something must change. Promotion Think he’s far more likely to be in a dogfight personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, harvey54 said: We have a manager that was at best, a journeyman pro. The majority of City fans didn't rate him. He's only managed at the level beneath the one he is currently managing so he lacks experience at this level. He's out of his depth. Simples Ffs get rid and employ someone who knows what they are doing Journeyman means nothing. Dont see how that impacts a player as a manager. Im not pro LJ, Im fairly indifferent. However I support the team. As for getting a manager who has experience at his level? Most of them are in the prem or currently employed. Also plenty examples of managers who have champ experience who I wouldnt want near this club. Adkins, Warnock, Lambert. Then look at Dean Smith. No experience of Champ before Brentford and doing a fanstastic job considering their net profit in transfer dealings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCinNW6 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, harvey54 said: My concern is that we have players at the club who have proved that on their day they can beat anyone but........they can also throw away 3 goal leads at home to the worst team in the league, concede 5 goals at home to a team that have struggled all season etc etc. That tells me the manager isn't getting the best out of his players and can't change it when they struggle This all day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I’m not surprised. Dropped Kelly again.....why? Also I have been saying 10th for well over a month and today we sit in 10th. Nothing surprises me. Nothing. Typical City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, screech said: What!! Give him the sack for improving our position? It's been a disappointing run but let's not lose sight that up to three or four games, left of this season, we had a chance of making the playoffs. The squad needs some work, I can't see how we need to make a change at the top as well. Only because of our excellent first half. If it had been any less we would be going the way of Sunderland ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Been watching for over 50 years myself. Old and cynical and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, harvey54 said: Been watching for over 50 years myself. Old and cynical and bitter. Snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Only because of our excellent first half. If it had been any less we would be going the way of Sunderland ! Indeed and that's the issue. People that think we have progressed are deluded because we are making the same mistakes. The definition of madness is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, swanker said: We shouldn’t be too surprised by the result either. My Mrs wasn’t. When I told her the result and what happened she replied “ They seem to do that quite a lot” My Mrs knows nothing about football yet always predicts lost points when we are ahead in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Indeed and that's the issue. People that think we have progressed are deluded because we are making the same mistakes. The definition of madness is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different outcome But given we are 10th the outcome is in fact different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Indeed and that's the issue. People that think we have progressed are deluded because we are making the same mistakes. The definition of madness is making the same mistake over and over again and expecting a different outcome Irony of ironies.....that's what LJ often quotes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Although it's all disappointing and our slumps must not be so lengthy, How can people be so vitriolic against a manager who has us 3 points out the playoffs with the last two games to go. thankfully the majority of this attitude seems to be confined to this online space where we see the most entitled fans on the planet - reminds me of England fans. Rovers are like Liverpool fans “next years our year” and city are like England fans “WHY DONT WE WIN EVERYTHINNGGG ARGHH” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, chinapig said: But given we are 10th the outcome is in fact different I know you aren’t using that as the simple gauge of progress as such, but many are , but our finishing position will count for zilch come August and if we find ourselves embroiled in a dogfight as I genuinely fear , we won’t be celebrating 10th or 11th this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Has anyone seen the bottom and bottom half sides in the table? They really are poor...Bolton in 4th bottom after 44 games have only 40 points. In conclusion, I don't see relegation as a particularly strong prospect next year- but at the same time, no real likelihood of a promotion push I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 My issue is this....I'm Mr L and I'm interviewing potential new managers to run my multi million pound business (cos this is what we are in business terms) and I look at the cv that Mr J has given me and I can't see with his experience how he is going to take my business forwards. And further down the line I still can't. I didn't like LJ as a player. Never rated him. I can't see what he's done as a manager to deserve to be manager of MY team and I don't rate him. That's my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I'm not suprised, we're Bristol City the gift that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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