Ivorguy Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Wedlock? Interested to know why you think this mate As I said in a later contribution, going from reports of the time, plus first hand accounts from people who saw him play week in week out for City in top flight and in cup final, and whom I knew as a child and who shared their views and opinions on Billy with me. As I say football fans should take a greater interest in the history of the game and especially in their own team. You wouldn't even ask this question about WG Grace, who incidentally my grandfather saw play, and who was my other grandfather's GP in Downend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: As I said in a later contribution, going from reports of the time, plus first hand accounts from people who saw him play week in week out for City in top flight and in cup final, and whom I knew as a child and who shared their views and opinions on Billy with me. As I say football fans should take a greater interest in the history of the game and especially in their own team. You wouldn't even ask this question about WG Grace, who incidentally my grandfather saw play, and who was my other grandfather's GP in Downend. That’s a bit unfair as I have a very good appreciation of city history and the players that have graced this club and through England who have represented city and England and despite 26 caps I think I was just asking why you think wedlock deserves a place in central midfield ahead of the likes of charlton, robson, Gascogne, gerrard. habing been brought up in downend In overndale Road I also know of the importance of wg grave and go and watch when I can didmt see your later contribution so apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, downendcity said: Many think the 1970 team was better. 4 hours ago, BigTone said: Did they win it ? 1 hour ago, OddBallJim said: As long as Banks is in goal we have a chance. Had Banks been in goal for the 1/4 final v Germany there is a very good chance we would have won in 1970. His inconvenient illness prior to the game meant Bonetti had to play and he had a shocker and from 2-0 up he singlehandedly let them back into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 hours ago, cider-manc said: Not going to argue with that. But much is made of the natural ability of players post 74... But none of them could even do a cruyff turn! Even i can do a cruyff turn!* As i say... just playing devils advocate. *sort of. tried it five hours ago against a 5 year old still in A&E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Had Banks been in goal for the 1/4 final v Germany there is a very good chance we would have won in 1970. His inconvenient illness prior to the game meant Bonetti had to play and he had a shocker and from 2-0 up he singlehandedly let them back into the game. Whenever I watch clips of that game the one thing that stands out is how small Bonetti looks in the frame of the goal. Banks was imposing. No wonder he never saved anything with table tennis bats stuck on his gloves. I had of these and the wet weather ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, downendcity said: ....Bonetti had to play and he had a shocker and from 2-0 up he singlehandedly let them back into the game. Very harsh.....there were ten other players trying to stop the Germans.....the mistake was taking Bobby Charlton off, that gave Beckenbauer the freedom to roam forward and cause carnage.....it certainly wasn’t just down to our ‘keeper....Jurgen Grabowski came on, re-energised the Germans and ran the bollocks off Terry Cooper, and Alan Mullery made a big error to give the Germans a goal...but everyone seems to blame Bonetti....just our culture I suppose....must find a scapegoat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 Emille Heskey anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, cidered abroad said: Yes, without a shadow of doubt. I assume you mean Big John Atyeo but could I add Big John Charles of Leeds, Juventus and Wales who was even more awesome than our's. 6 hours ago, ZiderEyed said: Blasphemy! Well, John Charles scored over 100 goals in 150 games for Juventus....nearly 160 goals for Leeds in under 300 games and even in his latter years he notched 80 goals in 170-odd games for Hereford...and he scored 15 goals in under 40 games for Wales....he was some player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 25, 2018 Report Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Very harsh.....there were ten other players trying to stop the Germans.....the mistake was taking Bobby Charlton off, that gave Beckenbauer the freedom to roam forward and cause carnage.....it certainly wasn’t just down to our ‘keeper....Jurgen Grabowski came on, re-energised the Germans and ran the bollocks off Terry Cooper, and Alan Mullery made a big error to give the Germans a goal...but everyone seems to blame Bonetti....just our culture I suppose....must find a scapegoat..... I was probably being a bit simplistic and you are right about Bobby Charlton's substitution affecting the game. Having said that Bonetti let a soft goal in and then (as I remember) got himself in no mans land for Seeler's header. Doubt that Banks would have made those mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 hours ago, downendcity said: I was probably being a bit simplistic and you are right about Bobby Charlton's substitution affecting the game. Having said that Bonetti let a soft goal in and then (as I remember) got himself in no mans land for Seeler's header. Doubt that Banks would have made those mistakes. Fair points there mate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 14 hours ago, MC RISK77 said: Been watching football since 86 my all time England team in my lifetime is seaman neville adams terry cole Beckham gerrard Gazza waddle lineker Rooney Rooney's a good choice if you're playing against Liechtenstein or Andorra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 David Beckham a poor man's Glenn Hoddle. Hoddle in his pomp was a supreme talent and for some unknown reason was criminally underused by England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said: David Beckham a poor man's Glenn Hoddle. Hoddle in his pomp was a supreme talent and for some unknown reason was criminally underused by England. Alan Brazil often says that Bobby Robson stopped playing him because he couldn’t do the work off the ball and the way the game was changing he needed him to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Alan Brazil often says that Bobby Robson stopped playing him because he couldn’t do the work off the ball and the way the game was changing he needed him to do Yet when he was forced to play him with Peter Reid in 1986, the team suddenly started playing.. Wilkins suspended and Robson injured thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Bard said: Yet when he was forced to play him with Peter Reid in 1986, the team suddenly started playing.. Wilkins suspended and Robson injured thankfully. Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Ivorguy said: As I said in a later contribution, going from reports of the time, plus first hand accounts from people who saw him play week in week out for City in top flight and in cup final, and whom I knew as a child and who shared their views and opinions on Billy with me. As I say football fans should take a greater interest in the history of the game and especially in their own team. You wouldn't even ask this question about WG Grace, who incidentally my grandfather saw play, and who was my other grandfather's GP in Downend. They must have really talked him up seeing you got him playing out of position and ahead of some midfield greats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Shilton neville. Campbell Ferdinand pearce becks. Gazza. Scholes Gerrard Linekar. Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 27/05/2018 at 09:42, bengalcub said: Shilton neville. Campbell Ferdinand pearce becks. Gazza. Scholes Gerrard Linekar. Shearer You should be England manager Gerrard on the left Square peg Round holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 I know , just no left sided player out of Gerrard , scholes and Gazza ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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