Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 18 hours ago, Bjorn1887 said: Something just occurred to me today. I am interested if you guys will agree with my insight. There is something with Lee Johnson that is hard to ignore. His First club Oldham Athletic: He tried to play football the right way and was instantly popular because of this. In his second season the Latics finally started to get the results the performances deserved and shot up into the playoff positions. However, 5 defeats in a row soon occurred and the team were around 13th in the table. At this point he still very much had a lot of credibility. He was offered an interview at Oakwell and won over the board with his presentation and excellent interpersonal skills. His second club Barnsley: Instantly he came in and won 6 games on the trot. Fair play of course, turning a flaying side into a promotion chasing one. At the Easter period there was 10 games to go with the side 5th in the table. Long story short the Reds failed to win a single one of them and ultimately finished 11th. In the 15/16 season he sets up to play like Pep's Barcelona. After a slow start to the season the team nosedives to 24th getting knocked out of the cup by Altrincham. Around these times of course it looks like his career is in jeopardy. However with his brand of football and being very likeable the club decide to bring in some reinforcements and suggest a change of style (I say this because as head coach transfers wasn't his decision). Again credit where it is due the club won 7 in a row and make it to the JPT final. He Leaves the club in 13th. He gets offered an interview by his former club and again works his magic with his presentational skills. His Third club Bristol City: Comes into a club in a relegation scrap and wins 7 out of 16 games. Great stuff. In his first full season however despite having considerable finances and the best striker in the League he cannot push on up the table. Last season the club has a great first 3/4 of the season always around the playoffs, but then a run of about 10 winless away games and the team eventually finishes in 11th. I am sorry if my thoughts on Bristol City are vague or perhaps false but its roughly what I gather. I do not wish to cause any offence. As I've referred to several times as a young English coach who speaks very well and tries to play attractive football it is not surprising that he is fashionable. He has real positives and that cannot be denied. But honestly at the moment the best way to describe him would be a boom or bust manager. Sorry Lee but at the end of the day his C.V currently reads: guided Oldham from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1, guided Barnsley from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1 and fairly inconsistent at his current club. I don't say this to put a downer on the guy but these are my honest thoughts. If he continues in this vein I'm afraid that his star will soon fall. I wonder if he is still immensely popular in your parts. I can understand that he did a great job for much of last season. Well that is all and I will see you all next year. Do take some of our LJ hating people with you when you go back to your own forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Ladies & Gents, if you look at "Taxi for Johnson" previous posts, it seems to me that this is clearly the same idiot, don't rise to the pillock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 17 hours ago, Redstart said: Is he immensely popular in your parts mate? he meant pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 17 hours ago, ontariored said: It's LJ wishing he played in Sweden. So, LJ was the pivotal factor that allowed these clubs to win. Guess what happened when GJ put LJ on in "DEFENCE" in the closing minutes of the play-off game we had with Hull that would have gotten us into the Premier. he didn't put him on in defence, he put him on in midfield and dropped Marvin elliot back to right back, a position he was well use to as he played there for millwall in a FA Cup final, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 Bit of selective memory from the OP I think. Oldham In the relegation zone when LJ arrived, 9th on the day he left. Large improvement. Barnsley 16th when LJ arrived, 12th on the day he left. Modest improvement. Bristol City In the relegation zone on the day he arrived, still in the job. Last completed season was our highest football league placing in a decade. So, in summary, he’s improved every club he’s been at. Not quite the same story you tell. Like him or loathe him, thems the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Bit of selective memory from the OP I think. Oldham In the relegation zone when LJ arrived, 9th on the day he left. Large improvement. Barnsley 16th when LJ arrived, 12th on the day he left. Modest improvement. Bristol City In the relegation zone on the day he arrived, still in the job. Last completed season was our highest football league placing in a decade. So, in summary, he’s improved every club he’s been at. Not quite the same story you tell. Like him or loathe him, thems the facts. Remember reading a story of LJ at the Oldham interview. He said to the chairman "whether you hire me or not, sign Korey Smith" I wonder what happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 21 hours ago, Bjorn1887 said: Something just occurred to me today. I am interested if you guys will agree with my insight. There is something with Lee Johnson that is hard to ignore. His First club Oldham Athletic: He tried to play football the right way and was instantly popular because of this. In his second season the Latics finally started to get the results the performances deserved and shot up into the playoff positions. However, 5 defeats in a row soon occurred and the team were around 13th in the table. At this point he still very much had a lot of credibility. He was offered an interview at Oakwell and won over the board with his presentation and excellent interpersonal skills. His second club Barnsley: Instantly he came in and won 6 games on the trot. Fair play of course, turning a flaying side into a promotion chasing one. At the Easter period there was 10 games to go with the side 5th in the table. Long story short the Reds failed to win a single one of them and ultimately finished 11th. In the 15/16 season he sets up to play like Pep's Barcelona. After a slow start to the season the team nosedives to 24th getting knocked out of the cup by Altrincham. Around these times of course it looks like his career is in jeopardy. However with his brand of football and being very likeable the club decide to bring in some reinforcements and suggest a change of style (I say this because as head coach transfers wasn't his decision). Again credit where it is due the club won 7 in a row and make it to the JPT final. He Leaves the club in 13th. He gets offered an interview by his former club and again works his magic with his presentational skills. His Third club Bristol City: Comes into a club in a relegation scrap and wins 7 out of 16 games. Great stuff. In his first full season however despite having considerable finances and the best striker in the League he cannot push on up the table. Last season the club has a great first 3/4 of the season always around the playoffs, but then a run of about 10 winless away games and the team eventually finishes in 11th. I am sorry if my thoughts on Bristol City are vague or perhaps false but its roughly what I gather. I do not wish to cause any offence. As I've referred to several times as a young English coach who speaks very well and tries to play attractive football it is not surprising that he is fashionable. He has real positives and that cannot be denied. But honestly at the moment the best way to describe him would be a boom or bust manager. Sorry Lee but at the end of the day his C.V currently reads: guided Oldham from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1, guided Barnsley from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1 and fairly inconsistent at his current club. I don't say this to put a downer on the guy but these are my honest thoughts. If he continues in this vein I'm afraid that his star will soon fall. I wonder if he is still immensely popular in your parts. I can understand that he did a great job for much of last season. Well that is all and I will see you all next year. What the hell is this ramble all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 21 hours ago, Bjorn1887 said: how boring is bristol If you don't like us, or the place then frankly go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 I'm happy with LJ but I do find it confusing that his team's are so streaky. I can understand that individual players go through patches, but how Johnson's teams become so Jekkyl and Hyde is beyond me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 22:34, Bjorn1887 said: how boring is bristol how boring is league one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 9 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: Bit of selective memory from the OP I think. Oldham In the relegation zone when LJ arrived, 9th on the day he left. Large improvement. Barnsley 16th when LJ arrived, 12th on the day he left. Modest improvement. Bristol City In the relegation zone on the day he arrived, still in the job. Last completed season was our highest football league placing in a decade. So, in summary, he’s improved every club he’s been at. Not quite the same story you tell. Like him or loathe him, thems the facts. I thought that OTIB was a fact free zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstoke Posted August 30, 2018 Report Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 14:20, Bjorn1887 said: Something just occurred to me today. I am interested if you guys will agree with my insight. There is something with Lee Johnson that is hard to ignore. His First club Oldham Athletic: He tried to play football the right way and was instantly popular because of this. In his second season the Latics finally started to get the results the performances deserved and shot up into the playoff positions. However, 5 defeats in a row soon occurred and the team were around 13th in the table. At this point he still very much had a lot of credibility. He was offered an interview at Oakwell and won over the board with his presentation and excellent interpersonal skills. His second club Barnsley: Instantly he came in and won 6 games on the trot. Fair play of course, turning a flaying side into a promotion chasing one. At the Easter period there was 10 games to go with the side 5th in the table. Long story short the Reds failed to win a single one of them and ultimately finished 11th. In the 15/16 season he sets up to play like Pep's Barcelona. After a slow start to the season the team nosedives to 24th getting knocked out of the cup by Altrincham. Around these times of course it looks like his career is in jeopardy. However with his brand of football and being very likeable the club decide to bring in some reinforcements and suggest a change of style (I say this because as head coach transfers wasn't his decision). Again credit where it is due the club won 7 in a row and make it to the JPT final. He Leaves the club in 13th. He gets offered an interview by his former club and again works his magic with his presentational skills. His Third club Bristol City: Comes into a club in a relegation scrap and wins 7 out of 16 games. Great stuff. In his first full season however despite having considerable finances and the best striker in the League he cannot push on up the table. Last season the club has a great first 3/4 of the season always around the playoffs, but then a run of about 10 winless away games and the team eventually finishes in 11th. I am sorry if my thoughts on Bristol City are vague or perhaps false but its roughly what I gather. I do not wish to cause any offence. As I've referred to several times as a young English coach who speaks very well and tries to play attractive football it is not surprising that he is fashionable. He has real positives and that cannot be denied. But honestly at the moment the best way to describe him would be a boom or bust manager. Sorry Lee but at the end of the day his C.V currently reads: guided Oldham from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1, guided Barnsley from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1 and fairly inconsistent at his current club. I don't say this to put a downer on the guy but these are my honest thoughts. If he continues in this vein I'm afraid that his star will soon fall. I wonder if he is still immensely popular in your parts. I can understand that he did a great job for much of last season. Well that is all and I will see you all next year. Are you saying that he is inconsistent by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 10 hours ago, Redstoke said: Are you saying that he is inconsistent by any chance? ...but is he consistently inconsistent or inconsistantly consistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 21 hours ago, Monkeh said: he didn't put him on in defence, he put him on in midfield and dropped Marvin elliot back to right back, a position he was well use to as he played there for millwall in a FA Cup final, Marvin was also the best midfielder in the Championship that season and the cup final was four years previous, we had Louis Carey who was no stranger to the position on the pitch, and had Tamas Vasko on the bench who had managed to cope with Del Piero that season so might have been able to handle Windarse. A dumb move in my opinion but ancient history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Loon plage said: Marvin was also the best midfielder in the Championship that season and the cup final was four years previous, we had Louis Carey who was no stranger to the position on the pitch, and had Tamas Vasko on the bench who had managed to cope with Del Piero that season so might have been able to handle Windarse. A dumb move in my opinion but ancient history. I think we all know, with hindsight especially, that it was the wrong choice. Although let’s not forget just much our preparations were thrown into chaos for that game, with McCombe falling ill the night before and the Orr breaking his face during the game. I think GJ opted for keeping as many familiar teammates on the pitch as possible. Sadly it didn’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 29/08/2018 at 14:20, Bjorn1887 said: Something just occurred to me today. I am interested if you guys will agree with my insight. There is something with Lee Johnson that is hard to ignore. His First club Oldham Athletic: He tried to play football the right way and was instantly popular because of this. In his second season the Latics finally started to get the results the performances deserved and shot up into the playoff positions. However, 5 defeats in a row soon occurred and the team were around 13th in the table. At this point he still very much had a lot of credibility. He was offered an interview at Oakwell and won over the board with his presentation and excellent interpersonal skills. His second club Barnsley: Instantly he came in and won 6 games on the trot. Fair play of course, turning a flaying side into a promotion chasing one. At the Easter period there was 10 games to go with the side 5th in the table. Long story short the Reds failed to win a single one of them and ultimately finished 11th. In the 15/16 season he sets up to play like Pep's Barcelona. After a slow start to the season the team nosedives to 24th getting knocked out of the cup by Altrincham. Around these times of course it looks like his career is in jeopardy. However with his brand of football and being very likeable the club decide to bring in some reinforcements and suggest a change of style (I say this because as head coach transfers wasn't his decision). Again credit where it is due the club won 7 in a row and make it to the JPT final. He Leaves the club in 13th. He gets offered an interview by his former club and again works his magic with his presentational skills. His Third club Bristol City: Comes into a club in a relegation scrap and wins 7 out of 16 games. Great stuff. In his first full season however despite having considerable finances and the best striker in the League he cannot push on up the table. Last season the club has a great first 3/4 of the season always around the playoffs, but then a run of about 10 winless away games and the team eventually finishes in 11th. I am sorry if my thoughts on Bristol City are vague or perhaps false but its roughly what I gather. I do not wish to cause any offence. As I've referred to several times as a young English coach who speaks very well and tries to play attractive football it is not surprising that he is fashionable. He has real positives and that cannot be denied. But honestly at the moment the best way to describe him would be a boom or bust manager. Sorry Lee but at the end of the day his C.V currently reads: guided Oldham from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1, guided Barnsley from midtable League 1 to midtable League 1 and fairly inconsistent at his current club. I don't say this to put a downer on the guy but these are my honest thoughts. If he continues in this vein I'm afraid that his star will soon fall. I wonder if he is still immensely popular in your parts. I can understand that he did a great job for much of last season. Well that is all and I will see you all next year. Yes. Because this has all the hallmarks of a spontaneous post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl1 Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 30/08/2018 at 11:59, MC RISK77 said: What the hell is this ramble all about Dunno, but he did well though, writing it all with one hand. The other hand was er....busy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: I think we all know, with hindsight especially, that it was the wrong choice. Although let’s not forget just much our preparations were thrown into chaos for that game, with McCombe falling ill the night before and the Orr breaking his face during the game. I think GJ opted for keeping as many familiar teammates on the pitch as possible. Sadly it didn’t work. They just didn't turn up on the day and I thought Hull had momentum going into the playoffs anyway to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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