Major Isewater Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Yep , not us not making enough chances or even taking them but the lino who nipped in to score , not once but twice . Bloody officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Has that ruined your acca, Major? Difficult to get a betting place to quote odds on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Erithacus said: Has that ruined your acca, Major? Difficult to get a betting place to quote odds on them. Gambling is a mugs game . ( much like supporting the City ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 According to LJ it was clear to everyone in the ground that the first goal was well offside. I wasn't there today. It wasn't mentioned as a possible offside on the radio. Nobody mentioned it in the matchday thread. Was it obvious then? Everyone makes mistakes. Baker, LJ and linos too. Was the lino clanger as obvious as Baker's, which was indeed obvious to everyone in the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: According to LJ it was clear to everyone in the ground that the first goal was well offside. I wasn't there today. It wasn't mentioned as a possible offside on the radio. Nobody mentioned it in the matchday thread. Was it obvious then? Everyone makes mistakes. Baker, LJ and linos too. Was the lino clanger as obvious as Baker's, which was indeed obvious to everyone in the ground? I didn't pick up on it, and havent seen the highlights yet as only just got home. What I can say is that the defending for both goals was shit, Pack was crap, strikers weren't much better either. Their goalkeeper and at least one of the defenders looked shaky from the start - we didnt press them individually enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: According to LJ it was clear to everyone in the ground that the first goal was well offside. I wasn't there today. It wasn't mentioned as a possible offside on the radio. Nobody mentioned it in the matchday thread. Was it obvious then? Everyone makes mistakes. Baker, LJ and linos too. Was the lino clanger as obvious as Baker's, which was indeed obvious to everyone in the ground? Havnt seen any replay but I didn’t think the scorer was In any case to label Bakers abonimation as clueless schoolboy defending would be unfair on a schoolboy The second was more a collective effort of clueless play and defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Offside or not, Baker made a complete pig's ear out of what was just a long ball over the top. Either head it back to the goalkeeper or call to the goalkeeper to come for it. But no, a slip, indecision, and suddenly Joao is in on goal with a one on one against Maenpaa. As for the second goal, Joao turned Webster and then had a quick neat shot that beat Maenpaa. And that was the end of the game really, with 2 goals in 2 minutes, as we never looked like scoring 2 in response. Wednesday looked poor in the first half, but we were worse in the second. All very worrying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: According to LJ it was clear to everyone in the ground that the first goal was well offside. I wasn't there today. It wasn't mentioned as a possible offside on the radio. Nobody mentioned it in the matchday thread. Was it obvious then? Everyone makes mistakes. Baker, LJ and linos too. Was the lino clanger as obvious as Baker's, which was indeed obvious to everyone in the ground? Didn't look it to me TBH. The ridiculous thing is that Baker was 100% shielding the ball: Jao (or whatever his name is) was at his back. He could have played safe and put it out for a corner, or tried to tap it to the keeper or even a gentle head. The one thing I'd think any defender would know not to do in that situation is turn towards your opponent and therefore present him with sight of the ball which he can then nick off you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Should the keeper get any blame due to his lack of communication with Baker? He certainly doesn’t seem to control his area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 49 minutes ago, harrys said: Should the keeper get any blame due to his lack of communication with Baker? He certainly doesn’t seem to control his area Exactly what I said when I saw it.....neither of them communicated properly. In a successful defence, keeper and defenders talk to each other and usually have an understanding and trust. That goal yesterday showed none of these. It was woeful, and reminded me of primary school football. The "3 yards offside" aside of course.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Your players your team your tactics YOUR FAULT; the players didn't bring themselves here or pick themselves; linesman/ref/too many games/fine lines/luck......give it a rest and go away....please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Bri Stool City said: Your players your team your tactics YOUR FAULT; the players didn't bring themselves here or pick themselves; linesman/ref/too many games/fine lines/luck......give it a rest and go away....please I also hardly think Johnson picked Baker with the aim of Baker making such a mistake, there's very little he can do about mistakes like that. I completely agree that he got the tactics wrong yesterday, but you can't blame him for the first goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Was the linesman playing up front for us? I’d forgotten all about Johnson’s ‘anyone but me’. This is a genuine concern when it’s clear that the last 3 games have been a result of his tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, harrys said: Should the keeper get any blame due to his lack of communication with Baker? He certainly doesn’t seem to control his area I don't think so, if in doubt defender has to clear it. 100% down to Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Wilde Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 The reason we lost yesterday’s game was because we didn’t take our chances. Baker should of cleared the simple ball over. That said, their player was offside and was pressuring Baker (even though it was a simple clearance and Baker should play to the whistle) so I would say he was interfering with play before Baker touched the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 17 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: According to LJ it was clear to everyone in the ground that the first goal was well offside. I wasn't there today. It wasn't mentioned as a possible offside on the radio. Nobody mentioned it in the matchday thread. Was it obvious then? Everyone makes mistakes. Baker, LJ and linos too. Was the lino clanger as obvious as Baker's, which was indeed obvious to everyone in the ground? From what I saw, Baker headed back to the keeper but not strong enough header, so player not offside, Bakers fault, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miser Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Landsdown seat ,level with the incident. Didn't see offside, just an amateur blunder from Baker. Same as everyone around me. Think we had a better view that LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moth3at3r Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 LJ is so annoying, we had plenty of chances to win that game and to say it was down to the linesman is a joke, focus on sorting out your players, tactics,substitutions and everything else you can effect and take some responsibilty for the defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Super said: I don't think so, if in doubt defender has to clear it. 100% down to Baker. Disagree a high percentage but not 100% his fault. He had his back to play and facing his own goal. Mäenpää should have been more decisive and shouted instructions. He was definitely Hardy to Baker's Laurel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 8, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Big C said: Disagree a high percentage but not 100% his fault. He had his back to play and facing his own goal. Mäenpää should have been more decisive and shouted instructions. He was definitely Hardy to Baker's Laurel. The biggest mistake was letting the ball bounce, as soon as he did that he was creating problems for himself Unless the keeper has called for the ball he has to simply clear the ball away Amusing the cameraman seemed to fall asleep at the same moment too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, phantom said: The biggest mistake was letting the ball bounce, as soon as he did that he was creating problems for himself Unless the keeper has called for the ball he has to simply clear the ball away Amusing the cameraman seemed to fall asleep at the same moment too ! We say this so often, defenders letting the ball bounce leading to uncertainty instead of just clearing the thing. We just don't learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Moth3at3r said: LJ is so annoying, we had plenty of chances to win that game and to say it was down to the linesman is a joke, focus on sorting out your players, tactics,substitutions and everything else you can effect and take some responsibilty for the defeat. The linesman comment is frustration, anger, emotion, in the immediate aftermath of defeat. It might also be deflection and a way of maintaining belief in your players and your approach (we don't want Nathan Baker to be 100% aware of his own limitations, and disappointment to supporters; not until Kallas is fully fit, at least. Being acutely aware of how poor you are won't help with your next performance. A bit of kidology, self-delusion is required). The linesman comment needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. You must see it for what it is. Indeed, it is what it is. And I've just explained what that is is. I hope. The focus on sorting out your players, tactics, subs etc, he has two weeks to do little else. He'll be doing a lot of that. The worry is, with this squad of players, how much can he sort out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 hours ago, JBFC II said: I also hardly think Johnson picked Baker with the aim of Baker making such a mistake, there's very little he can do about mistakes like that. I completely agree that he got the tactics wrong yesterday, but you can't blame him for the first goal Thing is, we have shipped out, moved on, cashed in on numerous defenders now, because the defence was so leaky and couldn't play out from the back, thus holding back our plan to pass our way up the pitch and into the Premier League. We have also changed assistant coach responsible for defence. If the personnel keep changing but the problem persists, what do we do - persist with changing the personnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Thing is, we have shipped out, moved on, cashed in on numerous defenders now, because the defence was so leaky and couldn't play out from the back, thus holding back our plan to pass our way up the pitch and into the Premier League. We have also changed assistant coach responsible for defence. If the personnel keep changing but the problem persists, what do we do - persist with changing the personnel? Just may be we're not as good as LJ thinks we are and a more pragmatic approach is called for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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