The Original OTIB Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Thought he was on a season long loan at Southend, but listed as playing today: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/report-crystal-palace-u23s-1-1-bristol-city-u23s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Harvey Smith out on loan but played in this game too - perhaps there's a clause allowing them to play for our reserves if not getting first team action? McCoulsky not getting a look in at Southend, started a couple of Checkatrade games but appears to be about 4th choice when it comes to league action and usually just an unused sub. Smith had been starting for Hereford earlier in season - maybe got injured or dropped since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted December 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Harvey Smith out on loan but played in this game too - perhaps there's a clause allowing them to play for our reserves if not getting first team action? McCoulsky not getting a look in at Southend, started a couple of Checkatrade games but appears to be about 4th choice when it comes to league action. Smith had been starting for Hereford earlier in season - maybe got injured or dropped since then? Maybe a recall if no starts in a certain amount of games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just like watching brazil Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 What is the point sending him to Southend and not playing may as well play for bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, just like watching brazil said: What is the point sending him to Southend and not playing may as well play for bath. Fine the ******* ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted December 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Maybe they mutually agreed to cancel the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 We can add him to the long list of players not good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 **** me. Doesn’t take much to write off an academy product on here does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Loans are still in place but there is an agreement that they can play u-23 games for us on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scare_Man Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: He doesn't seem to have improved much over the last couple of seasons. Understandable when he had that heart problem at the end of last season. He might be a late developer if he ever makes it with us. I know a good number of Newport season ticket holders who would disagree with that. Developed significantly over the season there last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Harvey Smith out on loan but played in this game too - perhaps there's a clause allowing them to play for our reserves if not getting first team action? McCoulsky not getting a look in at Southend, started a couple of Checkatrade games but appears to be about 4th choice when it comes to league action and usually just an unused sub. Smith had been starting for Hereford earlier in season - maybe got injured or dropped since then? Apparently some think it is better for their development to go on loan at a league 1/2 club with little playing time than it is to go and play quite often at a poxy club like Torquay where we care more about Gary Johnson than we do our players development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Ashtonwurzel said: Loans are still in place but there is an agreement that they can play u-23 games for us on occasion. Correctimundo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 11 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Apparently some think it is better for their development to go on loan at a league 1/2 club with little playing time than it is to go and play quite often at a poxy club like Torquay where we care more about Gary Johnson than we do our players development... I see what you did there. When a young player has had some success at a league 2 club the logical next step is League 1, but it doesn't look like it is working.Nobody could have known that, but a Championship club having 21 year olds playing National League South stinks and I do question why that is the case just like I wondered why Tay;or Moore who cost us a few bob played League 1 one loan then went to Cheltenham (apparently the only club who would play him centre back) If you want them to play all the time send them to a Toolstation club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Loon plage said: I see what you did there. When a young player has had some success at a league 2 club the logical next step is League 1, but it doesn't look like it is working.Nobody could have known that, but a Championship club having 21 year olds playing National League South stinks and I do question why that is the case just like I wondered why Tay;or Moore who cost us a few bob played League 1 one loan then went to Cheltenham (apparently the only club who would play him centre back) If you want them to play all the time send them to a Toolstation club Started at CB then played most of the season at RB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Started at CB then played most of the season at RB!!! Yes Dave but some say that is the only reason he went there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 15 hours ago, BCFC11 said: **** me. Doesn’t take much to write off an academy product on here does it Same happened with Bobby Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 What we don’t see is the training he is getting. We have good coaches in our academy but surely even training with proper coaches and practicing against L1 players does more for him than loaning him to conference? I have said it many times before, just because a loan isn’t successful in terms of minutes or stats does not mean it is not a good loan. Not only does it help in terms of what I have already mentioned but in this case also shows SM how much harder he needs to work and what he needs to work on. He was non league 3 years ago. We talk about Eisa who was not even in L2 until 2 years older than SM. Idk if he will make it at city but just because it is not happening for him at Southend does not mean he can’t still have a stellar career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 In my opinion, the odd loan is good for a players development, but this would've been his fifth loan while with us. I know he's 21, but it's not good for a players development to spend all of this time bouncing around different clubs and coaches. I mean, you only need to look at Chelsea and the number of players they farm out on loan alongside the players that actually end up any good to see that loans should be used sparingly in a young players development. If it's not working out at Southend, I think he needs to come back to the U23's, and to be given a chance in the first team to show that he can make it at this level. If he can't, we should sell on with a buy-back clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Quite a bit about McCoulsky in the loan watch thread. I think people keep missing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 19:12, Scare_Man said: I know a good number of Newport season ticket holders who would disagree with that. Developed significantly over the season there last year. Know a Newport player who would disagree as well, though it’s not great he isn’t getting much of a look in at Southend, but there’s plenty of other teams who will have him on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 18:30, BCFC11 said: **** me. Doesn’t take much to write off an academy product on here does it That Bobby Reid was a waste of space wasn't he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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