Davefevs Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Right now O'Dowda should be playing where Paterson is. Eliasson should be playing where O'Dowda is. When Smith/Walsh are back fit I'd like to see Brownhill or Walsh further forward. That would enable Eliasson and O’Dowda to both play. Having said that I do think Paterson has been decent enough of late (wasn’t there today). Think it might be Weimann who needs a rest, his contributions are less and less. Read a few comments on other threads that no-one broke past Diedhiou today. As a defender, if no-one ever makes runs past you, then you can go as high and tight as you like, and squeeze the play. Sounds like that is what happened today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That would enable Eliasson and O’Dowda to both play. Having said that I do think Paterson has been decent enough of late (wasn’t there today). Think it might be Weimann who needs a rest, his contributions are less and less. Read a few comments on other threads that no-one broke past Diedhiou today. As a defender, if no-one ever makes runs past you, then you can go as high and tight as you like, and squeeze the play. Sounds like that is what happened today? Have you seen my post about this Dave When do we ever get past FD zero threat in behind and exactly as you said , Brentford pressed to centre circle for long periods, as others have done , and anyone would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Don’t disagree with you Shtanley With the current 4-1-4-1 we are playing I also think COD would provide more of a threat than JP in supporting, or runnin* beyond FD I also think if Korey was back , in the current formation , JB would provide an interesting option in Patos current role Problem with Pato , If he isn’t providing assists or goals, then ....... ?? he’s a passenger when the opposition have the ball Great technically, and would look much better in a much better side than dominate play, but for us , a connumndrum Agree with bolded, think JB would flourish in all honesty. Pato has been working a lot harder recently to be fair but has zero defensive capabilities. Only worry with COD playing in Pato's current role is I'm unsure about his passing range, not sure I've seen him ever switch the ball etc. I think Weimann and Pato being swapped out for 2 consistent performers would make us a very decent side. Either they'll come in January or more likely as Johnson said "from within", Adelakun and COD could be those 2. Adelakun COD Eliasson Diedhiou or Eliasson Brownhill COD Diedhiou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shtanley said: Agree with bolded, think JB would flourish in all honesty. Pato has been working a lot harder recently to be fair but has zero defensive capabilities. Only worry with COD playing in Pato's current role is I'm unsure about his passing range, not sure I've seen him ever switch the ball etc. I think Weimann and Pato being swapped out for 2 consistent performers would make us a very decent side. Either they'll come in January or more likely as Johnson said "from within", Adelakun and COD could be those 2. Adelakun COD Eliasson Diedhiou or Eliasson Brownhill COD Diedhiou In your second team, Brownhill has got to be the player to run beyond Fam. Is COD the sort of player to make those runs? I think he likes to run with the ball too much to be an unselfish runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted December 26, 2018 Report Share Posted December 26, 2018 Taylor is our only intelligent player we have who can read the game and move well. Is he the answer? No, but he deserves a lot least a 5 game run to show what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 If LJ had the balls to keep Fam as a hole player no bugger would NEED to run past him. Keep CoD and Nico on the wings and have Marlon split time with Brownhill in the true midfield or move Brownhill up front and cycle between him, Weimann and Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I was thinking drop Paterson but then last few games he's been quite good. Bit of end product too- goal at Derby, assist today. Funny I was thinking drop Weimann before the Norwich game- then he gets an assist! However I would in the medium to long run like to see Eliasson and O'Dowda same side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 10 hours ago, frenchred said: Eeerrrrr why? He's shite! Because that is my opinion which is just as valid as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Fordy62 said: I’m not saying he’s the answer to all our prayers, I’m really not. But has he ever been given a prolonged run in the starting eleven? Weimann has and Paterson can do no wrong In LJ’s eyes, despite being our worst player over the course of the last 12 months. Hes had a tough time with injury, but I’m not sure he’s been afforded the chance that others have. Can he be considered unlucky and given our dire performances (yep - I said performances, not results), should he be given a chance? Can’t do much worse going forward at the moment. He's had plenty of chances... he just keeps missing them! I do think he's actually one of our better players interms of clever play. Just a shame that he doesn't seem to have goals in him at this level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Hampshire Red said: Has the poster of this thread been to any of the past 6 games when Pato has been playing well, against good defences, good teams and been offering good service as well as scoring? Hard to imagine some people on here are not just trouble-stirring folk who don't want to write nor read good news story about our side. Imagine if we were on a run of 6 games without a win!! Know what? I’d rather see a run of 6 defeats if we played well, with some passion and it was entertaining and exciting. Go all out and get **** all is far better than a shit performance, 1-0 victories against teams that are ever so slightly shitter than you and getting really bored. Each to their own. If you like the latter you’ll be having a feast under the current set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I think Taylor will be off before he has ever really established himself here, which will be a shame. I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves in the next few weeks. I really wanted Diedhiou to be subbed yesterday to pair Matty with Weimann again. I just don’t see much understanding between Diedhiou and Weimann, Taylor and Weimann at least had something. It could spark Weimann into finding the net again too. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, RedM said: I think Taylor will be off before he has ever really established himself here, which will be a shame. I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves in the next few weeks. I really wanted Diedhiou to be subbed yesterday to pair Matty with Weimann again. I just don’t see much understanding between Diedhiou and Weimann, Taylor and Weimann at least had something. It could spark Weimann into finding the net again too. Thoughts? Weimann isn't a winger, that's why he is offering the square root of f all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Have he had his chance ? Yes . Have he produced enough quality and goals at this level , enough for us to kick on as a team and challenge in the top half then my opinion is no. He is a top professional who also gives his best , never lets the team and is a decent squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsteral Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Weimann must have been p____d off yesterday, when he had been stuck on the wing for 80 minutes (not his position and not his best position to help the team) and then LJ brings on Matt Taylor to play down the middle and moves Pato out on to the wing, because we need another man up front. Weimann is absolutely wasted on the wing but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Agree with a few others saying Taylor has already had enough chances and missed most of them. Move him on to a L1 club who might pay decent money in Jan and get a proper goal scorer in. Easy to say but not easy to find a gem on our budget. We know already for sure that MT wasn't it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, bs3 said: Have he had his chance ? Yes . Have he produced enough quality and goals at this level , enough for us to kick on as a team and challenge in the top half then my opinion is no. He is a top professional who also gives his best , never lets the team and is a decent squad player. Ditto Weimann and O'Dowda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtonwurzel Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 I wouldn't be surprised to see Fammy move on in January myself. Stockley as a replacement and not back up, also either of Weimann or Taylor to go. Think we may be shocked by the comings and goings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, RedM said: I think Taylor will be off before he has ever really established himself here, which will be a shame. I wouldn’t be surprised if he moves in the next few weeks. I really wanted Diedhiou to be subbed yesterday to pair Matty with Weimann again. I just don’t see much understanding between Diedhiou and Weimann, Taylor and Weimann at least had something. It could spark Weimann into finding the net again too. Thoughts? I was hoping to see Eisa come on for Diedhiou for the last half an hour, Famara at that point had shown he was not going to get anything against the Brentford defence, maybe something different was needed. We are not scoring yet still not at least trying our £1.7 million signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 4 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: Agree with a few others saying Taylor has already had enough chances and missed most of them. Move him on to a L1 club who might pay decent money in Jan and get a proper goal scorer in. Easy to say but not easy to find a gem on our budget. We know already for sure that MT wasn't it though. League 1 club unlikely to pay his wages, he’ll just stop here and go for nothing in the summer. From what I’ve seem he offers more than Weinman but as we know LJ has his irrational favourites. E.g. Patterson, Weinman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 27, 2018 Report Share Posted December 27, 2018 Think he had one once and he missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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