Tinmans Love Child Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Crazy how it’s opened up now for playoffs, with 8/9/10 to play its any 2 from 7, Villa and Preston are flying currently, us and Middlesborough are slumping, but it’s going to be very interesting, and we play a huge part as we still have to play Middlesborough, Villa and Derby. If we are to have any chance at all we need to win the 2 games in hand, and hope we don’t lose to Middlesborough or Villa, if we can win those 2 games however we have a great chance. But we will need a huge turn in fortunes for that to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Crazy how it’s opened up now for playoffs, with 8/9/10 to play its any 2 from 7, Villa and Preston are flying currently, us and Middlesborough are slumping, but it’s going to be very interesting, and we play a huge part as we still have to play Middlesborough, Villa and Derby. If we are to have any chance at all we need to win the 2 games in hand, and hope we keep up! This is the way I`m looking at it. Maybe add one or both of Hull & Brum too! Edit; If you`re being really pessimistic, Brentford & Swansea as they both have games in hand. If Swansea won the two they have they`d have 53 points! It`s madness. Mind you, look at the bottom of League 1 - three points cover 12th down to 21st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 After 38 games in the 2017/18 season Middlesbrough were in 6th place with 62 points, 5 points more than Villa have earned during this campaign at the same stage. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43353596 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 If city get back to their best it’s going to be a bumpy ride, but not impossible - got to win those games in hand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Crazy how it’s opened up now for playoffs, with 8/9/10 to play its any 2 from 7, Villa and Preston are flying currently, us and Middlesborough are slumping, but it’s going to be very interesting, and we play a huge part as we still have to play Middlesborough, Villa and Derby. If we are to have any chance at all we need to win the 2 games in hand, and hope we don’t lose to Middlesborough or Villa, if we can win those 2 games however we have a great chance. But we will need a huge turn in fortunes for that to happen! Head says apart from Reading and Wigan then we will struggle to pick any points from our remaining games,heart says your head is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Head says apart from Reading and Wigan then we will struggle to pick any points from our remaining games,heart says your head is right But we were nailed on for a home win against Ipswich as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rich said: But we were nailed on for a home win against Ipswich as well. This is City. We`ll draw at Blades, win at Boro and lose at home to Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rich said: But we were nailed on for a home win against Ipswich as well. I was being optimistic,you being negative means we probably won’t pick up any points till end of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: I was being optimistic,you being negative means we probably won’t pick up any points till end of season Well, we do need another six to be mathematically safe from relegation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Wednesday on a run too, but that minus GD is like a point less. Our GD over Derby helpful if it is indeed both of us challenging. But all three of Boro, us and Derby trending down....break came at the right time for us, if there is anything in that. LJ needs to instill that we are in a good position, and that’s after a bad run, so just need to get back to where we were. If he comes back from the break and goes “shit or bust” I wouldn’t blame him, but perhaps let’s go solid v Sheffield Utd and Boro first. Think we’d bite your hand off for two draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wednesday on a run too, but that minus GD is like a point less. Our GD over Derby helpful if it is indeed both of us challenging. But all three of Boro, us and Derby trending down....break came at the right time for us, if there is anything in that. LJ needs to instill that we are in a good position, and that’s after a bad run, so just need to get back to where we were. If he comes back from the break and goes “shit or bust” I wouldn’t blame him, but perhaps let’s go solid v Sheffield Utd and Boro first. Think we’d bite your hand off for two draws. Totally agree about lee should say it’s shit or bust but we have never seen this while he’s been in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 There is 12 points between us and 4th. There is 11 points between us and 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: This is City. We`ll draw at Blades, win at Boro and lose at home to Wigan. Which would be better for us than drawing at Sheffield, losing to Boro & bearing Wigan, so let’s hope you are right..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rich said: But we were nailed on for a home win against Ipswich as well. Who drew with ‘ fancied ‘ Forest today. No easy games in the Championship . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wednesday on a run too, but that minus GD is like a point less. Our GD over Derby helpful if it is indeed both of us challenging. But all three of Boro, us and Derby trending down....break came at the right time for us, if there is anything in that. LJ needs to instill that we are in a good position, and that’s after a bad run, so just need to get back to where we were. If he comes back from the break and goes “shit or bust” I wouldn’t blame him, but perhaps let’s go solid v Sheffield Utd and Boro first. Think we’d bite your hand off for two draws. It`s the old dilemma though isn`t it? We`d be better off losing one and winning the other. My view would be to go for it in both - if we lose, we lose but let`s at least give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 BREAKING NEWS: Football results in final 10 games of season don’t always go with the form book - Shocker..! Anyone would think that this is the first time most of you had followed a football season..! If you can’t deal with “surprise” results, then you are probably following the wrong sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Who drew with ‘ fancied ‘ Forest today. No easy games in the Championship . Ipswich have had 1-1 draws with West Brom, City & Forest this week. Probably a little easier once you are all but down, to relax and try to play, but it demonstrates perfectly that anyone think we have a divine right to beat any team is just a bit of a moron..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Ultimately we need to hit another positive streak. We've wasted our opportunity to give ourselves any kind of cushion. It's a straight shoot out for 2 places now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 We’ve got to go to Sheff United next.. I’ve already written that off. They haven’t conceded a single goal in their last seven games. Might be a good time to play Boro in the next couple weeks as they seem to be falling a bit. Other than that though, I can’t offer anymore positivity. Hopefully this mini break might be a blessing. Certainly need to show character now and make ourselves known! There has been far too many passengers the last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Not sure the games in hand actually help, we just have too many games in April, especially as we lack depth in the squad, and have no fit experienced keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Pulis next to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Merson said this afternoon on sky sports that games in hand mean little at this stage of the season and it’s better to have points in the board. Games in hand at this stage are just added pressure to each one we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 7 - 2 = 5 The answer is FIVE … ( I thankyou ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Crazy how it’s opened up now for playoffs, with 8/9/10 to play its any 2 from 7, Villa and Preston are flying currently, us and Middlesborough are slumping, but it’s going to be very interesting, and we play a huge part as we still have to play Middlesborough, Villa and Derby. If we are to have any chance at all we need to win the 2 games in hand, and hope we don’t lose to Middlesborough or Villa, if we can win those 2 games however we have a great chance. But we will need a huge turn in fortunes for that to happen! The break could, with luck , for once come at a good time for us. Those on good runs won't have wanted this gap, while we could really do with getting some energy and confidence back into the team. Very tough game to come back to action with, but then , get something and it could really set us up for a good run in. I personally think LJ has to come up with something different . Whether that be formation , line up or whatever. The current formation has been good away , but I don't think even that will be good enough. I do think he will probably stick with the same players, and probably the same formation for the Sheff U game, I have a feeling he will be very cautious going into the game , but we desperately need to find more of a threat for the final part of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, Lew-T said: We’ve got to go to Sheff United next.. I’ve already written that off. They haven’t conceded a single goal in their last seven games. They might though if we play our Kiwi keeper up front, all we need to do is get him on the end of a cross to feet from three or four yards out.. One touch and boom it'll be in the back of the net before he knows what's hit him!!! We need to play to our strengths! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: The break could, with luck , for once come at a good time for us. Those on good runs won't have wanted this gap, while we could really do with getting some energy and confidence back into the team. Very tough game to come back to action with, but then , get something and it could really set us up for a good run in. I personally think LJ has to come up with something different . Whether that be formation , line up or whatever. The current formation has been good away , but I don't think even that will be good enough. I do think he will probably stick with the same players, and probably the same formation for the Sheff U game, I have a feeling he will be very cautious going into the game , but we desperately need to find more of a threat for the final part of the season. He is, hes been scouting round for more experienced players and here's the squad v Sheff Utd. He realises he's been wasting his time on youth and goes back to the tried and trusted formula of his dad ! ( All are on loan mind and out of contract) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Seriously guys do you really think we’ve even got half a chance of the play offs? I’ll be happy to bet with any man who thinks we have half a chance... we haven’t the resources or the management to achieve it.. get over it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said: Seriously guys do you really think we’ve even got half a chance of the play offs? I’ll be happy to bet with any man who thinks we have half a chance... we haven’t the resources or the management to achieve it.. get over it!!! Come on, as a football fan you surely go into every game thinking , if we can just ...... I've said before , I don't think we will make it. I still look at the games and think , if we can get something at Sheffield, and get some form back , and I think we are capable of beating M'boro , etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Merson said this afternoon on sky sports that games in hand mean little at this stage of the season and it’s better to have points in the board. Games in hand at this stage are just added pressure to each one we play. Depends. Games in hand for Norwich, Sheff Utd, Villa: could mean something. Games in hand for teams on winless runs with no goals in them, nd a keeper crisis, not meaning so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Come on, as a football fan you surely go into every game thinking , if we can just ...... I've said before , I don't think we will make it. I still look at the games and think , if we can get something at Sheffield, and get some form back , and I think we are capable of beating M'boro , etc etc. After the last few performances NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 12 hours ago, KeepUpLino said: Seriously guys do you really think we’ve even got half a chance of the play offs? I’ll be happy to bet with any man who thinks we have half a chance... we haven’t the resources or the management to achieve it.. get over it!!! Yeh you are right, what’s the point, might as well not bother going to the last 10 games, might even stop supporting altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, WhistleHappy said: 7 - 2 = 5 The answer is FIVE … ( I thankyou ) I thought , being a regular on OTIB , that 2+2 = 5 particularly during the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 15 hours ago, KeepUpLino said: Seriously guys do you really think we’ve even got half a chance of the play offs? I’ll be happy to bet with any man who thinks we have half a chance... we haven’t the resources or the management to achieve it.. get over it!!! What we have to remember is that this team is a team that got into 6th and had a chance to create some daylight. They didn’t, and we are now playing catch-up in terms of position and number of games. The trend is not encouraging, but I wouldn’t count us out. We are aided in our positive thoughts by Boro and Derby’s slumps too. It is gonna be very tough, points on the board very useful at this point...and we will see a lot about certain players mental toughness / weakness in the coming weeks....and the Head-Coach too. Let’s see where we are after Wigan at home, we’ll have caught up one of our games in hand by then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Our slump in the last 5 games is the worst in the championship, producing just two points and no wins. Only Ipswich have failed to win in the last 5 games but did get 4 points. A mini table over this period would show us as 24th, Bolton 23rd and Ipswich 22nd. Having watched our "performance" against Ipswich on Tuesday and Leeds v Sheff Utd yesterday the difference would suggest that we have little chance of anything but a move further South in the table. I think that during our good run of results which propelled us to 5th we flattered to deceive, with generally single goal wins and mainly against lesser opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 It all comes down to confidence, tactics, luck, fitness, quality and hunger for success. Recent form suggests that we are lacking in a number of these areas. Regardless of what LJ says about us not being under pressure you can sense the weight of expectation on the players and the frustrations of our supporters, especially at home. In order for us to be right up there we need to play at our absolute best, which some other clubs around us don’t necessarily have to worry about. We should be taking advantage when other teams drop points, but we play too defensively or desperately and fail more often than not. When we went up in ‘76 the players and fans believed. I don’t feel that this season. It’s more hope than belief. We got into a playoff position on merit, but then we tried to protect it like England trying to defend a one goal lead and you cannot be like that if you want to end up in the mix at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, dave36 said: If city get back to their best it’s going to be a bumpy ride, but not impossible - got to win those games in hand! Unfortunately it might all be done and dusted for us before we get to play the last of them against Millwall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 16 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I've said before , I don't think we will make it. I still look at the games and think , if we can get something at Sheffield, and get some form back , and I think we are capable of beating M'boro , etc etc. I think we've proven that we can go away from home and get a result almost anywhere. Our away tactics and performances have been good. It's the home tactics that need a drastic and quick rethink, in my book. Just not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 19 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: I was being optimistic,you being negative means we probably won’t pick up any points till end of season Predicting that we're going to struggle picking points up against anyone bar Wigan and Reading, was being positive? We lost to a very poor Reading as well as Wigan mind. I was only being provocative in my original post. I think we're better now than earlier in the season but still struggle when it's the more important games, as we don't create enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Who drew with ‘ fancied ‘ Forest today. No easy games in the Championship . Correct, I was being the devils advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: This is City. We`ll draw at Blades, win at Boro and lose at home to Wigan. You've been following City for a long time then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, jayjay said: Our slump in the last 5 games is the worst in the championship, producing just two points and no wins. Only Ipswich have failed to win in the last 5 games but did get 4 points. A mini table over this period would show us as 24th, Bolton 23rd and Ipswich 22nd. Having watched our "performance" against Ipswich on Tuesday and Leeds v Sheff Utd yesterday the difference would suggest that we have little chance of anything but a move further South in the table. I think that during our good run of results which propelled us to 5th we flattered to deceive, with generally single goal wins and mainly against lesser opposition. I totally agree about our winning run. We were never totally dominating in games and usually scrapped in by the odd goal. I think those games were won because of our defence more than our attack. We've been sussed out now and need to change things around. One up top won't get us over the line IMO, and we are far too narrow in the back line. I would love to play as a winger against us. I'd have so much space and time. And I'm 70!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, marmite said: I totally agree about our winning run. We were never totally dominating in games and usually scrapped in by the odd goal. I think those games were won because of our defence more than our attack. We've been sussed out now and need to change things around. One up top won't get us over the line IMO, and we are far too narrow in the back line. I would love to play as a winger against us. I'd have so much space and time. And I'm 70!! Our narrow defence is another reason I'd like to see use a central back 3. Beginning of the season I said of the "3 best players leaving" , that we had already got a better LB in Kelly, along with DaSilva . Given more time with LJ , they have both started to defend narrower. One criticism of Bryan was he gave wingers too much room, turns out it wasn't him, it was how LJ wanted to play that position. It's not going to change any time soon. I get that playing a No.10 is to try and get support to Fam, while keeping it tight . Sadly we don't get support to FD, and we need a big change if we are going to win enough games to trouble 6th spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, marmite said: I totally agree about our winning run. We were never totally dominating in games and usually scrapped in by the odd goal. I think those games were won because of our defence more than our attack. We've been sussed out now and need to change things around. One up top won't get us over the line IMO, and we are far too narrow in the back line. I would love to play as a winger against us. I'd have so much space and time. And I'm 70!! You can’t discredit our good form as “only scrapping results by the odd goal” yet ignore that we’ve only lost to 2 of the top 3 sides by the odd goal, during our dip to n form..! Ipswich was frustrating, but they’ve shown over the past week that they are capable of getting some respectable results, no that the pressure is all but gone. We didn’t impose ourselves enough Vs Brum, I agree. Preston was a decent point. People are talking like we have capitulated and that simply isn’t the case. Tough games coming up. I fully expect defeat at Bramell Lane, which will leaving us needing at least a point, probably all 3, at Boro, to remain within touching distance, although having got the games against the top 3 sides out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We're still in a great position imo but there's no doubt the next two games are massive. Sheffield United away is on paper the hardest of the final 10 and a defeat coupled with wins for the likes of Villa, Preston, Derby and Forest would see us a little way behind. Then you've got the first of the "games in hand" against Middlesbrough on the Tuesday after, another tough game but another chance to beat a play off rival and a win would probably see us leapfrog them. One of the best things about our situation is that we're always gonna have one extra game to play right the way til the final week of the season. If we can stay in the hunt right up til that last week it'll be in our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 22 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: BREAKING NEWS: Football results in final 10 games of season don’t always go with the form book - Shocker..! Anyone would think that this is the first time most of you had followed a football season..! If you can’t deal with “surprise” results, then you are probably following the wrong sport. Don't think anyone who follows football have been surprised by ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Can't see us finishing any higher than 10th or 11th unfortunately. So many teams around us are in good form and we look like we've collapsed again at the crucial time. Looking at our remaining fixtures, I'd go so far as to say that playoffs are almost certainly out of the question. A more realistic target might be to better last seasons finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: Can't see us finishing any higher than 10th or 11th unfortunately. So many teams around us are in good form and we look like we've collapsed again at the crucial time. Looking at our remaining fixtures, I'd go so far as to say that playoffs are almost certainly out of the question. A more realistic target might be to better last seasons finish. Likely to need 75 points to get top 6. That’s 20 points needed. I think the corresponding fixtures from this season saw us take 9 points. Bizarrely, probably not getting points from some we’d be pinning our hopes on, whilst having won some from games we’d not have much hope for now. We basically need to win 7 of our remaining 10 games, although that could alter, depending on the results in some key “6 pointers” as they currently stand. Youd have to say it’s doubtful, but it’s certainly possible, at the moment. 6 points from our next 3 games is almost vital, including not losing to Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Our narrow defence is another reason I'd like to see use a central back 3. Beginning of the season I said of the "3 best players leaving" , that we had already got a better LB in Kelly, along with DaSilva . Given more time with LJ , they have both started to defend narrower. One criticism of Bryan was he gave wingers too much room, turns out it wasn't him, it was how LJ wanted to play that position. It's not going to change any time soon. I get that playing a No.10 is to try and get support to Fam, while keeping it tight . Sadly we don't get support to FD, and we need a big change if we are going to win enough games to trouble 6th spot. Yep, we have defended narrow for quite a while now...initially to protect Flint and Baker, neither blessed by speed on the turn. The thing is now with Kalas and Webster, we’ve not got to do that anymore. Wolves I can understand, but all it does is drive your WMs deep and you end up 6 at the back. Ditto Norwich, with their similar passing style to Wolves....it’s why we couldn’t “get out” second half. Against all the other teams, even Leeds, we just haven’t played, but the Leeds goal came in a similar vain. Not sure whether we can attribute everything to playing narrow, but along with Webster and Kalas’s pace, we also have Dasilva, Kelly and Hunt with pace (Pisano less so, Wright more than less so!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We’ve just got to try and enjoy these next 10 games........20 points required me thinks for top six place which based on who we have left to play is a tall order! Losing at home to Brum and drawing at home to Ipswich could cost us come the end of the season - I hope the boys prove me wrong COYR’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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