chinapig Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 It's difficult to come up with a satisfactory metric, though I would favour one that takes into the costs of the whole first team squad, including wages and agents fees. Of course another, soft, measure would be to compare to fans' expectations. As I recall, the majority on here would have been happy with a mid table finish. The question is whether to get a meaningful result you should exclude the minority who predict relegation every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 23 hours ago, hoxton casual said: How did Sheff Utd and Norwich get their strikers so cheap. I think Norwich was great scouting from Danish league. How did Sharp end up at Sheff Utd? Pukki had played at varied times for Celtic, Schalke and Sevilla. Admittedly not a stellar record at those 3, mixed bag. An inspired signing? Yes. From a lower level over last few years? Yes. Not quite an unknown as he's often portrayed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Beni71 said: This is very interesting. Wonder if the position changes when you include cost of loan players. Would imagine Kallas is a biggish earner but would expect Abraham and Hogan to bump up villa/Sheffield United costs Hogan- waste of money for Sheffield United so far. Doubt he'd be in their top 10 appearances since he joined, let alone August. His wages £40k per week or are they higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 09:09, RedDave said: 11th most expensive first XI. Surprised Leeds first team is so cheap What is the source of this info? Who put it together? Cheers ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Pukki had played at varied times for Celtic, Schalke and Sevilla. Admittedly not a stellar record at those 3, mixed bag. An inspired signing? Yes. From a lower level over last few years? Yes. Not quite an unknown as he's often portrayed though. I would envisage it’s about £40k, lot of money for the bench but a good option. I would like him at City as I think he would suit our style and his movement is an upgrade on anything we have in the squad. Think he is suited at a smaller club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, Beni71 said: I would envisage it’s about £40k, lot of money for the bench but a good option. I would like him at City as I think he would suit our style and his movement is an upgrade on anything we have in the squad. Think he is suited at a smaller club Hogan? I mean injuries may have ruined him...or at least diminished him. Really not done a lot at Sheffield United- admittedly not a lot of game time but McGoldrick and Sharp pretty hard to shift. Madine perhaps brought something fundamentally different hence his decent impact there. He should definitely be worthy of consideration though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 10:34, hodge said: Thing is in the premier league version of this everyone on social media is praising Warnock for doing such a great job with a team that cost £13m compared to everyone else, but he has players like Bobby who cost £10m alone on the bench. This excludes expensive players who aren't part of the most regular 10. Bear in mind also that Cardiff bought a striker for £15m but then refused to pay for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 19/04/2019 at 09:09, RedDave said: 11th most expensive first XI. Surprised Leeds first team is so cheap 10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: What is the source of this info? Who put it together? Cheers ... ..... any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Hogan? I mean injuries may have ruined him...or at least diminished him. Really not done a lot at Sheffield United- admittedly not a lot of game time but McGoldrick and Sharp pretty hard to shift. Madine perhaps brought something fundamentally different hence his decent impact there. He should definitely be worthy of consideration though. Yep, Hogan. His injury record isn’t great and since his move to Villa/Sheffield United limited games and minutes. Would be a risk signing given wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: ..... any news? Saw it on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedDave said: Saw it on Twitter. Do you know the source? Not knocking you sharing it, but so many ‘lists’ are shared with no basis in any credible evidence...cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Do you know the source? Not knocking you sharing it, but so many ‘lists’ are shared with no basis in any credible evidence...cheers Pretty sure others have shared it on twitter, not sure this is the original source but working for BBC you'd hope they'd trust the source if from somewhere else https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1118062655393214466 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, hodge said: Pretty sure others have shared it on twitter, not sure this is the original source but working for BBC you'd hope they'd trust the source if from somewhere else https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1118062655393214466 Thanks Hodge - but that link seems to just show a list involving premier league clubs? Apologies if I’ve misunderstood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Do you know the source? Not knocking you sharing it, but so many ‘lists’ are shared with no basis in any credible evidence...cheers Struggling to find it again. I would guess that with so many undisclosed fees it isn’t 100% accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, RedDave said: Struggling to find it again. I would guess that with so many undisclosed fees it isn’t 100% accurate Cheers for the reply mate - probably not too accurate then, but you probably aren’t far away saying we are ‘over achieving’... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, hodge said: Pretty sure others have shared it on twitter, not sure this is the original source but working for BBC you'd hope they'd trust the source if from somewhere else https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1118062655393214466 If the source was indeed Daniel Storey it would certainly be trustworthy. Former deputy editor of Football 365, former FSF football writer of the year and a regular on James Richardson's Totally Football Show podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 20/04/2019 at 20:56, Beni71 said: Yep, Hogan. His injury record isn’t great and since his move to Villa/Sheffield United limited games and minutes. Would be a risk signing given wages. A risk for sure- injuries have diminished him but he could have brought something different to the table too. Hard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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