Leveller Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, milo1111 said: If this is the only striker we sign this summer there will be a meltdown on here. That’s the point though. Why should he be the only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Makes sense if we are selling Diedhiou as long as we are also going all out for a top striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: That’s the point though. Why should he be the only one? If we keep Diedhiou and buy Moore then we have quite a lot of forward players. I think whether Diedhiou is sold or not is massive. If he is staying then that tells me we will be going with one big striker up top every game, either Fam or Moore. It means we won't be going back to the Pato and Reid style exciting high press. Maybe Szmodics will play up there with one of them, but we will not be a free flowing passing side as Diedhiou isn't capable of playing in that way. If we sell Diedhiou then I see Moore as being more of a Plan B. As I expect us to bring in a quality different type of striker to replace Diedhiou like Nketiah. I prefer that second idea out of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Leveller said: That’s the point though. Why should he be the only one? He shouldn’t be the only one your right. I’m just sceptical as we have had a bit of a problem getting decent goal scoring strikers into the club the last 18/24 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 I think what we lack and ought to be after (like everybody else) is a genuine small, fast goal poacher in the manner of Andy Cole or Jermaine Defoe. None of the number 10 types fit that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric04 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 I remember watching him at Yeovil when they played Man Utd and he missed their best chance. Never thought then he’d turn out to be a multi-million pound striker. Fair play to GJ for spotting the raw talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 KM’s West Country background suggests we might appeal to him more than Millwall, apart from anything else. Born in Torquay and has played for a long list of South West clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Leveller said: I think what we lack and ought to be after (like everybody else) is a genuine small, fast goal poacher in the manner of Andy Cole or Jermaine Defoe. None of the number 10 types fit that bill. Of all the names mentioned on various threads Vydra probably fits the bill most of all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Of all the names mentioned on various threads Vydra probably fits the bill most of all? He's really not that kind of player. More a goalscoring 10 than a poacher. Not really quick or hard working but very skilfull and of course scores goals at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: He's really not that kind of player. More a goalscoring 10 than a poacher. Not really quick or hard working but very skilfull and of course scores goals at this level. Yeah, you`re probably right - he does have that right place, right time knack though. I wonder how many penalties he`s won in his career as well - the one for Derby at AG the season before last was him turning on the edge of the box and bursting in on goal IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Yeah, you`re probably right - he does have that right place, right time knack though. I wonder how many penalties he`s won in his career as well - the one for Derby at AG the season before last was him turning on the edge of the box and bursting in on goal IIRC. Yes, he likes to play facing the goal and using his skill. I was surprised he went to Burnley, not a Dyche sort of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, Leveller said: I think what we lack and ought to be after (like everybody else) is a genuine small, fast goal poacher in the manner of Andy Cole or Jermaine Defoe. None of the number 10 types fit that bill. Agree. And we have a player in Eliasson who is just about the best crosser I have ever seen down here. His amazing whipped in crosses are just too quick for Diedhiou. It's not even simply down to Diedhiou not knowing where to be, or not knowing how to score goals. The season before showed Diedhiou can certainly score by being in the right place at the right time. But it's more that Diedhiou isn't sharp enough off the mark to get onto those brilliant balls that get fired between the centre backs and goalie across goal. How many times did we see Diedhiou dive, and often at the right time as he can't go before Eliasson puts it in, but just isn't quick enough to get onto it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 Jarrod Bowen would be the player I think we need, scores all types of goals and right age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, INCRED said: Jarrod Bowen would be the player I think we need, scores all types of goals and right age And I believe Hull quoted Tottenham £20m for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, INCRED said: Jarrod Bowen would be the player I think we need, scores all types of goals and right age That would be the icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAZ MICHAELS Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 I've always been quite impressed with Moore when I've seen him. For a big guy he's looks to have a good touch and looks quite mobile. I think I'd probably prefer him over Diedhiou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 3 hours ago, chinapig said: He destroyed our defence with power and pace the last time we played at Oakwell. Yep and atrocious defending from us, or should I say Baker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 2 hours ago, JonDolman said: Agree. And we have a player in Eliasson who is just about the best crosser I have ever seen down here. His amazing whipped in crosses are just too quick for Diedhiou. Jon, our favourite Swede (sorry Tommy) is better than Sir Alan Walsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Norn Iron said: Jon, our favourite Swede (sorry Tommy) is better than Sir Alan Walsh? I only started watching early 90s, so only comparing to who I been down and seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Leveller said: I think what we lack and ought to be after (like everybody else) is a genuine small, fast goal poacher in the manner of Andy Cole or Jermaine Defoe. None of the number 10 types fit that bill. Andy Cole wasn’t that small... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Leveller said: I think what we lack and ought to be after (like everybody else) is a genuine small, fast goal poacher in the manner of Andy Cole or Jermaine Defoe. None of the number 10 types fit that bill. I'm not really sure how well poachers work at this level- and certainly above- in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 16 hours ago, chinapig said: He destroyed our defence with power and pace the last time we played at Oakwell. But mainly with his elbows and forearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, chipdawg said: But mainly with his elbows and forearms With our apparent relationship with referees that could be a problem. We saw many a player getting away with those sort of challenges last year, whilst anyone on a City shirt seemed to get into trouble for breathing to heavy in their direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: With our apparent relationship with referees that could be a problem. We saw many a player getting away with those sort of challenges last year, whilst anyone on a City shirt seemed to get into trouble for breathing to heavy in their direction. Yes, but we got some nice apology letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: With our apparent relationship with referees that could be a problem. We saw many a player getting away with those sort of challenges last year, whilst anyone on a City shirt seemed to get into trouble for breathing to heavy in their direction. When we last played at Oakwell, Moore elbowed and shoved his way through the defence, then Djuric came on and was instantly on a final warning for holding his arms up to protect the ball. That style of play is all well and good if the refs decide it's permitted, but more often than not they don't and you have a player who's a liability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiedhiouGOAT Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Scored 17 goals for Barnsley in the League last season. Apparently we're bidding 3 million. Scored quite a few good quality goals from what I've found from browsing through . Not sure if he's worth 3 mil though he is only 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Mail on Sunday (BBC gossip) linking us and Millwall with a 3 million pound bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 Think thisis a bs rumour unless deidhou is off and we will sign a mobile type as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Seems like we are again undecided about how we will approach our play next season I think it will be one big man, Diedhiou or Moore each game, with a smaller striker like Weimann, Szmodics or whoever we sign like Nketiah, if so I expect him to start often because he is a goalscorer. And i wouldn't be surprised if LJ generally goes with the 4222 that worked so well against WBA and Sheff Utd second half. I really liked the look of that in those games. He went to Leipzig and learnt that system. When he went with that in those games we had so many more players in and around the box. Diedhiou will probably go back to scoring more with more players closer to him. Of course he will also change systems. Especially mid game if we are winning he will often go to a 4141. The key is bringing in adaptable players. Szmodics seems like one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 30, 2019 Report Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Cider red said: Think thisis a bs rumour unless deidhou is off and we will sign a mobile type as well Probably. Also its a bit early to be coming to knee jerk conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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