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1 hour ago, wood_red said:

What is to stop a whole stand standing then? If Norwich, Leeds and others do it why can't we (obviously would need arranging somehow). I would not want people standing in front of people who actually do want to sit etc. I just don't see how it can be stopped if everyone in the SS all stood and everyone just ignored the so called "rules".

Regarding SAG, surely that should be a group for the whole league and not club by club? Especially if the Norwich one says "carry on" and the Plymouth ones says"you're banned"!! Seems crazy

It IS crazy.

The national body for sports ground safety is the aptly named Sports Ground Safety Authority (SGSA). It is they that have now told clubs with all-seater grounds that rail seats are allowed and that if they have areas of their ground where fans habitually stand, they should consider installing them to increase safety.

At the local level, each club then has its own Saftey Advisory Group (SAG). That is chaired in each case by an officer from the council and its other members are typically other council officers, representatives of the emergency services and a stadium safety inspector from the SGSA. The latter is technically only an observer, but given who they represent, what they say carries a lot of weight. A club's stadium manager and safety officer would typically also attend the SAG meetings.

It is an SGSA recommendation that SAGs invite a supporters' representative to attend their meetings. Some SAGs do this. Ours refuses to do so.

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2 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

It IS crazy.

The national body for sports ground safety is the aptly named Sports Ground Safety Authority (SGSA). It is they that have now told clubs with all-seater grounds that rail seats are allowed and that if they have areas of their ground where fans habitually stand, they should consider installing them to increase safety.

At the local level, each club then has its own Saftey Advisory Group (SAG). That is chaired in each case by an officer from the council and its other members are typically other council officers, representatives of the emergency services and a stadium safety inspector from the SGSA. The latter is technically only an observer, but given who they represent, what they say carries a lot of weight. A club's stadium manager and safety officer would typically also attend the SAG meetings.

It is an SGSA recommendation that SAGs invite a supporters' representative to attend their meetings. Some SAGs do this. Ours refuses to do so.

The club should get involved with this then, and make it compulsory for a supporters representative to attend these meetings. What exactly do they have to hide? Or is it a case of "give a man a badge" and he thinks he is SL now and can do what he wants. Probably someone with a massive ego.

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44 minutes ago, shelts said:

That’s where my season ticket is. No!!

Not a problem, along with your season ticket you will be issued with a full set of scarves representing all the away teams we'll be playing... Just pop one on, keep yer mouth shut and you'll blend in OK,,...  Oh and sit on yer hands.. 

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This SAG.

Are they elected, or are they appointed by councillors? I am assuming they are not elected, but who exactly appoints them and which officials are elected ie voted for by the public as opposed to just placed by councillors?

I assume the positions on it are roughly the same as in other parts of the UK? ie If a Chief Fire Officer on one, it is a standard format/template?

Read on another forum which maybe having similar issues, encourage/lobby local councillors if it becomes a big problem.

Turnout is often quite low, local elections are reasonably frequent- they work for us, remember.

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