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Jailed for 10 weeks for failing to provide a specimen of breath.

Maybe he'll use this time to work on a new 'after dinner' routine, rather than the entirely fictional account of when Brian Clough apparently tried to sign him, which turns in to 15 minute routine that seemingly mocks an addict.

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6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Jailed for 10 weeks for failing to provide a specimen of breath.

Maybe he'll use this time to work on a new 'after dinner' routine, rather than the entirely fictional account of when Brian Clough apparently tried to sign him, which turns in to 15 minute routine that seemingly mocks an addict.

Does not sound to me that he's mocking him. Sounds like he's merely telling a funny story.

I do think he's a bit of a c**k tho.

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9 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Does not sound to me that he's mocking him. Sounds like he's merely telling a funny story.

I do think he's a bit of a c**k tho.

He’s mocking . 

Brian Clough was a larger than life eccentric with a drink problem who despite all that achieved miracles at, not one , but two unfashionable provincial clubs . 

He deserves more respect from a bloke who isn’t fit to tie the great man’s bootlaces .

His story makes BC out to be a complete clown and a fool and he only uses it because people are still interested in the legend that was Cloughie years after his death. 

I don’t find the story funny at all and I’m sure that if BC were alive today then he wouldn’t dare tell it.

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3 minutes ago, KeepUpLino said:

What nice people!!! Nothing like reveling in someone else demise.... 

Well said. So much good with our club at the moment do we really need to highlight the negatives 're Saunders and Dowling?

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4 minutes ago, marmite said:

Well said. So much good with our club at the moment do we really need to highlight the negatives 're Saunders and Dowling?

This isn't North Korea. 

Both things are news and if it people want to discuss then, why shouldn't they? It doesn't take anything at all away from our recent success on and off the pitch. 

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9 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

He’s mocking . 

Brian Clough was a larger than life eccentric with a drink problem who despite all that achieved miracles at, not one , but two unfashionable provincial clubs . 

He deserves more respect from a bloke who isn’t fit to tie the great man’s bootlaces .

His story makes BC out to be a complete clown and a fool and he only uses it because people are still interested in the legend that was Cloughie years after his death. 

I don’t find the story funny at all and I’m sure that if BC were alive today then he wouldn’t dare tell it.

Totally agree, Major. The story was also disputed by Alan Hill. Nothing funny about it regardless:

Dean Saunders and Brian Clough – a story that went viral but doesn’t finish there

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/07/brian-clough-dean-saunders-nottingham-forest?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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There are few things that get me to turn off, turn over. Love Island , Eastenders , Britains got talent or similar, and Dean ****** Saunders. 
Annoying, odious man, doesn't surprise me he did this.

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1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

Jailed for 10 weeks for failing to provide a specimen of breath.

Maybe he'll use this time to work on a new 'after dinner' routine, rather than the entirely fictional account of when Brian Clough apparently tried to sign him, which turns in to 15 minute routine that seemingly mocks an addict.

BT will probably have him back. They don't mind employing ex-footballers with questionable morals and views.

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

Personally, I wouldn't call telling falsehoods about someone no longer here to defend themselves a "mistake". 

I wasn’t there personally so wouldn’t know how much is exaggeration and how much is “falsehoods”. That’s why I’m not being a judgemental bastard?

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51 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Just as well nobody on here ever made a mistake in life??

Having had a close friend hit and killed by a drunk driver I find it hard to regard the actions of someone who decides to get behind the wheel when over the limit as merely "a mistake".

Everyone knows the science behind it now. There is no excuse.

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56 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I wasn’t there personally so wouldn’t know how much is exaggeration and how much is “falsehoods”. That’s why I’m not being a judgemental bastard?

The key element is that the person he ridicules is no longer here to defend himself and even if it were true it is no different to poking fun at disabled people.

Alcoholism is an illness.

 I am being a judgmental bastard because I find it highly distasteful. 

There are hundreds of ‘ funny ‘ stories told about BC , this one is excruciatingly painful .

Still I suppose when Saunders is released from his cell he can go back to organising trips to Bedlam.

 

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6 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Comes across as one of the least intelligent people involved in football, which is some achievement.

...but one of the quickest thinking on the pitch.....

 

 

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5 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

I wasn’t there personally so wouldn’t know how much is exaggeration and how much is “falsehoods”. That’s why I’m not being a judgemental bastard?

I'm talking about the lies he spouted about Clough which are well documented. 

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Awful pundit and manager - was a good player though. 

He failed to take a breath test 3 times and even pleaded not guilty after until today court date. He deserves his jail time. Everyone makes mistakes but this is a serious one which he has shown no remorse and is even now trying to get his sentences reduced. 

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7 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

He’s mocking . 

Brian Clough was a larger than life eccentric with a drink problem who despite all that achieved miracles at, not one , but two unfashionable provincial clubs . 

He deserves more respect from a bloke who isn’t fit to tie the great man’s bootlaces .

His story makes BC out to be a complete clown and a fool and he only uses it because people are still interested in the legend that was Cloughie years after his death. 

I don’t find the story funny at all and I’m sure that if BC were alive today then he wouldn’t dare tell it.

Completely false story made up by Saunders to augment his after dinner speeches.

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If there is anything worse than a drunk driver then it’s a drunk driver who doesn’t have the stones to do the station breath test. Having given CPR to an innocent driver who was hit by a drunk driver I feel quite strongly about this stuff. As mentioned above, people know the score now. If someone decides to get behind the wheel after they’ve been drinking then for me they deserve everything that’s coming to them. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Beezey said:

If there is anything worse than a drunk driver then it’s a drunk driver who doesn’t have the stones to do the station breath test. Having given CPR to an innocent driver who was hit by a drunk driver I feel quite strongly about this stuff. As mentioned above, people know the score now. If someone decides to get behind the wheel after they’ve been drinking then for me they deserve everything that’s coming to them. 

 

Completely agree , amazing in this day and age how many people still do it 

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4 minutes ago, Erithacus said:

Hmm, seems Mr Clough isn't the only one accused of a drink problem. Irony?

Yep. Both had/have a problem with use of alcohol. 

Only one got a prison sentence though. 

Brian laughing his tits off somewhere right now I hope. 

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2 hours ago, Beezey said:

If there is anything worse than a drunk driver then it’s a drunk driver who doesn’t have the stones to do the station breath test. Having given CPR to an innocent driver who was hit by a drunk driver I feel quite strongly about this stuff. As mentioned above, people know the score now. If someone decides to get behind the wheel after they’ve been drinking then for me they deserve everything that’s coming to them. 

 

Here, here.

The dangers are huge & potentially catastrophic. Young, old & complete families potentially wiped out through pure selfishness.

Where is the moral compass?

Just like those people who drive whilst holding & texting with their mobile phones - despicable cretins who should be banned for life.

Still, old Deano will probably be the next face of Santander Bank upon his release from jail (if he serves any real time of course).

Sadly, the Santander situation is where we are at with this kind of disgraceful behaviour.

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10 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Awful pundit and manager - was a good player though. 

He failed to take a breath test 3 times and even pleaded not guilty after until today court date. He deserves his jail time. Everyone makes mistakes but this is a serious one which he has shown no remorse and is even now trying to get his sentences reduced. 

This.

******* weird how many people seem desperate to defend him. Did the crime, tried to get out of the time; got called on his bullshit arrogance and is serving his debt to society.

Always came over as a self-regarding clown as a manager; shame that seems to have extended to his personal life.

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13 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Awful pundit and manager - was a good player though. 

He failed to take a breath test 3 times and even pleaded not guilty after until today court date. He deserves his jail time. Everyone makes mistakes but this is a serious one which he has shown no remorse and is even now trying to get his sentences reduced. 

Definitely one of the worst pundits... and with the dross on the radio and TV that's going some.

Right up there with Chris Sutton on 5Live.

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Very unusual for him to get a custodial sentence for drink driving.

Normally it would only apply if it was aggravated by causing damage or injury to others.

Hate drink drivers of course; but not surprised that they are appealing the sentence.

Even the judge must have thought it was at the top end of sentencing; as has granted him bail, pending the appeal. Rather than sending him straight to custody.

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Imagine he was well tanked up and a total dick at the Police Station. Refusal of roadside and station tests results in an automatic ban but to get 10 weeks porridge on top of that must mean that Police statements were quite damning.

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1 hour ago, ncnsbcfc said:

Very unusual for him to get a custodial sentence for drink driving.

Normally it would only apply if it was aggravated by causing damage or injury to others.

Hate drink drivers of course; but not surprised that they are appealing the sentence.

Even the judge must have thought it was at the top end of sentencing; as has granted him bail, pending the appeal. Rather than sending him straight to custody.

Ahhhh, but remember, it’s not drink driving. 

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1 hour ago, ncnsbcfc said:

Very unusual for him to get a custodial sentence for drink driving.

Normally it would only apply if it was aggravated by causing damage or injury to others.

Hate drink drivers of course; but not surprised that they are appealing the sentence.

Even the judge must have thought it was at the top end of sentencing; as has granted him bail, pending the appeal. Rather than sending him straight to custody.

Not according to the BBC;

Saunders was refused bail and his application to appeal will be heard at the crown court at a later date to be fixed, Mersey Cheshire Crown Prosecution Service has confirmed.

Saunders, who was sent straight to prison, was "in shock" and "disappointed" with the sentence, his lawyer said.

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1 hour ago, Fordy62 said:

Ahhhh, but remember, it’s not drink driving. 

Failing to provide? @Fordy62

Normally carries an automatic 18 month ban on first offence.

If you know you're way over, then briefs will always advise you to not provide. If you are 3/4 times over, it would be 2-3 year ban.

A long time since I've been on the intoximeter ?

I think the judiciary know that the sentence was on the harsh side. Hence why he's only spent one day in jail, and then been released on bail pending his appeal.

Will get knocked down to 2 year ban I reckon.

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3 hours ago, ncnsbcfc said:

Failing to provide? @Fordy62

Normally carries an automatic 18 month ban on first offence.

If you know you're way over, then briefs will always advise you to not provide. If you are 3/4 times over, it would be 2-3 year ban.

A long time since I've been on the intoximeter ?

I think the judiciary know that the sentence was on the harsh side. Hence why he's only spent one day in jail, and then been released on bail pending his appeal.

Will get knocked down to 2 year ban I reckon.

You may well be right, but there was no early plea so no reduction and the wanton disregard for the process by not providing. 

Either way, grade A bell End. 

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Unfortunately he'll get he sentence reduced to either suspended sentence or community service. His brief will advise him to show the required amount o f contrition.

A shame because everything I've read- not least the disgusting slurs on Clough (with no regard for the feelings of his family) who can't answer back - shows he's a massive knob.

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On 28/08/2019 at 21:40, Beezey said:

If there is anything worse than a drunk driver then it’s a drunk driver who doesn’t have the stones to do the station breath test. Having given CPR to an innocent driver who was hit by a drunk driver I feel quite strongly about this stuff. As mentioned above, people know the score now. If someone decides to get behind the wheel after they’ve been drinking then for me they deserve everything that’s coming to them. 

 

Bang on. The consequences of drink driving are horrific, I am utterly baffled why people do it, and why the penalties aren't stiffer. And when you have the means and wealth of Saunders it makes it all the more inexcusable and bewildering that he chose to get into his car rather than checking into a hotel or hiring a driver. Genuinely infuriated by this story. 

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That copper was more than patient, I would have thrown him in the cells when he started his nonsense. He was clearly playing for time and hoping he would sober up enough for the test to show negative. What a Dick, what makes him think he is above the law. I hope they throw the book at him.

Drink driving and the devastation it causes is horrendous. I am appalled people think they can do this still.

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1 minute ago, RedM said:

I’m now awaiting ‘my drink must have been spiked’.

With what? 

If he knew he'd had one pint he'd have likely breezed through the test. Spiked with drugs it would still show a negative. 

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3 hours ago, RedM said:

That copper was more than patient, I would have thrown him in the cells when he started his nonsense. He was clearly playing for time and hoping he would sober up enough for the test to show negative. What a Dick, what makes him think he is above the law. I hope they throw the book at him.

Drink driving and the devastation it causes is horrendous. I am appalled people think they can do this still.

It’s funny how they have never done it before and should be catching real criminals.https://youtu.be/306MpG3YSyE

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Absolute tit. There is no excuse for drink driving. I’m not too surprised that he acted in such an entitled way. As for this whole ‘interfere with medication’ rubbish; that shouldn’t matter even if true because the bottom line is you are operating something with the potential to be a massive death machine, while inebriated.

Hope he gets what he deserves and that he can't buy his way out of it with a good lawyer.

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4 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Free after a day pending an appeal ........what is wrong with this country:gaah:

I don't see why that matters; it's not like he's a violent criminal who is just going to do it again straight away.

Why does it make a difference whether he serves his sentence now or in a year's time as long as the penalty is the same?

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18 minutes ago, glos old boy said:

Free after a day pending an appeal ........what is wrong with this country:gaah:

He’s pleaded guilty and appealing against his sentence as he has the absolute right to do

What is your understanding of justice if you have to serve that sentence before the appeal can be heard 

Brilliant ........

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8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

He’s pleaded guilty and appealing against his sentence as he has the absolute right to do

What is your understanding of justice if you have to serve that sentence before the appeal can be heard 

Brilliant ........

That'd be fine but most convicted criminals have to win their appeal before they get released don't they?

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8 minutes ago, Robin1988 said:

That'd be fine but most convicted criminals have to win their appeal before they get released don't they?

Depends on the seriousness of the offence they’ve been convicted of , and a whole host of factors 

If convicted of murder , rape , armed robbery etc etc you may struggle to persuade a court to bail you pending an appeal !

Sounds to me the Judge has taken a dislike to Saunders and not sentenced him on the offence and circumstances personally

(He would serve 5 weeks and the appeal is set for October so he would have already have served his sentence by the appeal date)

 

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6 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Depends on the seriousness of the offence they’ve been convicted of , and a whole host of factors 

If convicted of murder , rape , armed robbery etc etc you may struggle to persuade a court to bail you pending an appeal !

Sounds to me the Judge has taken a dislike to Saunders and not sentenced him on the offence and circumstances personally

(He would serve 5 weeks and the appeal is set for October so he would have already have served his sentence by the appeal date)

 

So to you it sounds like the judge has taken a dislike to him?  Does that mean you think 10weeks (actually only 5 locked up) imprisonment is harsh? 

I'd have thought another month or two on top would have been more acceptable, ..

He's appealing against 5weeks (effectively) what was he thinking appropriate  ffs?  A week at Butlins and a guest appearance as a red-coat perhaps? 

Hope on appeal the sentence is deemed too lenient and increased (for the cheek of appealing) rather than any reduction.

 

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