Wrongagain Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s fair enough. But if I was head coach...... ......ok I jest!! You could be, if LJ were the court Jester the king would have his head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Acton Red Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Harry said: I’d say Bentley is of top 6 quality. A fit Baker is probably of top 6 quality. A fit Kalas is not far off. The rest are not. Thus, we don’t have a top 6 squad. If Baker is above Kalas then maybe we had our pants pulled down paying £8m for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, dave36 said: You could be, if LJ were the court Jester the king would have his head! Twice in 2 posts. Come on Dave. Plenty of room elsewhere for that. Respect the thread. 5 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: If Baker is above Kalas then maybe we had our pants pulled down paying £8m for him then. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I think a lot depends on if we can get a striker with similar qualities to Afobe. We looked a much better side before he got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Top 6 yes Top 2 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said: Current form suggests that the squad is not even top 6 of L1. But we are 1 point off the top 6 of the championship? The performances suggest otherwise but the league table does not lie get behind the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Looks like there more than one Jester here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, FramptonRed said: If Baker is above Kalas then maybe we had our pants pulled down paying £8m for him then. He isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I believe the squad is good enough for top 6, if steered correctly, but I worry about how imbalanced the squad is with too many central midfielders and defenders and a lack of options elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 It's hard to say yes given most of the performances this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: The performances suggest otherwise but the league table does not lie I've never understood this saying. The table doesn't "lie" as such (how could it??) but it's not really that accurate in terms of where a team is at either. Hence why the table changes every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Would any of our players get into any of the current top 6 and make them better(starting XI)? Think Bentley, Kalas, Brownhill would. Everyone else arguable at best. That said think a few more have the ability to be top 6 but we haven’t seen their best. Kalas and Brownhill haven’t seen their best this season. Think Bentley been fantastic considering what he has been up against. Dasilva, Nagy, Massengo and Eliasson(been great this season but hasn’t made a place in the squad his) all have the talent to be top 6 players. So that is potentially 7 top 6 players. Then you get Weimann, Fam, Baker and Williams who I think can be good starters for sides 8-12. So that makes 10 players top half worthy. Then you get good pros and probably starters for most bottom half clubs like Hunt, Smith, Watkins, COD, Moore(has potential not quite the defender I’d like him to be), Periera, And Palmer(potential to be more) so basically a full squad of championship starters at various levels. I don’t think you need top 6 players in every position to be a top 6 side. So all in all I think we have the squad(talent)for it. And yes we are a point from top 6 but performances haven’t felt like we are even that close. So yea, don’t think the squad is a massive problem but putting it down on paper makes me realise we aren’t that great which is more depressing considering what we spend on playing staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Roe said: I've never understood this saying. The table doesn't "lie" as such (how could it??) but it's not really that accurate in terms of where a team is at either. Hence why the table changes every week. It tells the truth ONCE a season. After 46 games. This squad, and the way it is being managed, will end up about 10th - 12th at best IMO. Whether this is acceptable or not is a whole new topic, when people talk about year on year progress etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Top 6 yes Top 2 no. Top half/12, yes. Top 8/third, like last season, with a fit Afobe, should be. Top 6, not looking like it. Top 2, don't be silly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 I know he only played a few games but if Afobe never got injured I still think the top two was a real possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 We are a bit short on numbers up top. But I believe we have the ability for top 6. But would take some very good management from LJ to manage it. I'm not one of these that seem to think it's the end of the world if we don't make top 6. Only 6 teams can make it, and there's plenty of very good teams so it's certainly not easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 52 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: I know he only played a few games but if Afobe never got injured I still think the top two was a real possibility I've been tempted to start a thread for a while now called 'The Afobe Myth' arguing that maybe he did look good, but you can't assume that he would continue to be good. Maybe it was just a good patch? Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Yes - any one of Warnock, Pearson, McCarthy, Bruce, Wilder, etc, would have us up there - and all rejected as not being good enough for our club on here ... and all have promoted zillions of clubs from the championship to the premier league, many as champions ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, JonDolman said: We are a bit short on numbers up top. But I believe we have the ability for top 6. But would take some very good management from LJ to manage it. I'm not one of these that seem to think it's the end of the world if we don't make top 6. Only 6 teams can make it, and there's plenty of very good teams so it's certainly not easy. You’re gonna get jumped on - Harry is watching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yes - any one of Warnock, Pearson, McCarthy, Bruce, Wilder, etc, would have us up there - and all rejected as not being good enough for our club on here ... Add to that Sir Alf, Sir Bobby, Clough, Bob Paisley, Holloway... What the **** is wrong with this Lansdown bloke?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Harry said: The request for this thread was to NOT mention LJ. Plenty of other threads for that Dave. This is purely chat about the quality of the players - regardless of manager, formations, motivation, etc. Lets try to honour the opening posters request, just this once. Really? The players could all be World Cup players, but in the end it matters not one bit , they follow orders and in my opinion our players ARE good enough for top 6, IF their quality is not stifled by the inexcusable coaching they would be - it’s an opinion, which we are all entitled to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: Add to that Sir Alf, Sir Bobby, Clough, Bob Paisley, Holloway... What the **** is wrong with this Lansdown bloke?? Nah, Bob Paisley had no track record at Championship level - unlike my list on which you are commenting ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, dave36 said: Really? The players could all be World Cup players, but in the end it matters not one bit , they follow orders and in my opinion our players ARE good enough for top 6, IF their quality is not stifled by the inexcusable coaching they would be - it’s an opinion, which we are all entitled to But Dave. That’s not the question. The opinion you hold is absolutely fine. And you have plenty of opportunity to express it in many other threads. This one is purely about the players abilities. Come on now Dave, be a good boy and stick to the opening poster’s request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Sturny said: Let’s not mention LJ here, just the players. Don’t bring any agendas in here fellas. Do you believe the players themselves have the quality to perform as a consistent top 6 team throughout the season? I do. We’ve seen some serious quality plays from individuals, I could sit here and list them but we’ve all seen it at times. What’s your thoughts? NO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Top 8 team for sure, just lacking a bit of finishing quality, not quite enough goals in the locker for a top 6 team. If only there was a way to bring back Bobby Reid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Dave 36 have you spent too much time reading the Evening Post of OTiB? Where do you think City have been in the past 4 months if we haven't been challenging for Top 6. Cant believe we are reading this but very amusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 5 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: Current form suggests that the squad is not even top 6 of L1. Form over the season so far suggests otherwise. For me, the squad is good enough to be top half pushing play offs. Decent keeper, 1 very experienced CB, 2 with varying levels of experience at a decent level - Baker in actual game time and Kalas being around a top quality squad. Competent enough full backs going forward if not a little less convincing defensively. 2 real quality technical centre mids in Nagy and Massengo who are currently playing within themselves / not to their potential for whatever reason. Palmer and Elliason have the magic to make something happen with the right movement around them. Little lightweight up top in terms of quality but actually doing well in terms of goals scored. We just aren’t getting the best out of what we have. We have players that would be first choice in most other teams in this division, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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