Reading away 80s

[ralphindevon]

I never tire of reading about games like Reading away, it feels like being part of history, all be it a tainted one.

I actually lived in a hamlet on Exmoor that didn’t even have a pub. Now here I was involved in an event so big and mental it made the back page headlines of the nationals  and we’re still talking about it 38 years later.

I can’t be the only one who would find this kind of thing completely unacceptable now and be ashamed to be associated with it……….but at the time it was one hell of a buzz and weirdly helped you deal with unsavoury incidents as life went on.

After all, if you were at Reading, Millwall, Corinthien Casuals, Swindon etc a flare up in a pub, club or whatever would feel like a quiet night compared. 

 

[Shaun Taylor]

7 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

I never tire of reading about games like Reading away, it feels like being part of history, all be it a tainted one.

I actually lived in a hamlet on Exmoor that didn’t even have a pub. Now here I was involved in an event so big and mental it made the back page headlines of the nationals  and we’re still talking about it 38 years later.

I can’t be the only one who would find this kind of thing completely unacceptable now and be ashamed to be associated with it……….but at the time it was one hell of a buzz and weirdly helped you deal with unsavoury incidents as life went on.

After all, if you were at Reading, Millwall, Corinthien Casuals, Swindon etc a flare up in a pub, club or whatever would feel like a quiet night compared. 

 

Reading is a strange one as they never brought many down here when we played them years ago and not sure who their rivals are as it's not us or Oxford maybe Aldershot!

[Topper 123]

On 28/01/2020 at 17:12, swanker said:

Think his name was Tim? He drew the plans up for the kitchen extension on my first house. Haven’t seen him for many years. Hope he’s okay. 

Councillor Tim he’s sound living in old people’s home off kellaway ave see him occasionally but likes the scotch too much , seen his mate like up lions last week 

[Bedred31]

On 28/01/2020 at 14:41, BTRFTG said:

Yes.

Industrial level 'demolition' of the terrace.

The police dog handler who fell over in the mêlée and was bitten by his own mutt......

Blimey yes- I have a memory of a copper desperately yelling “Cromwell , leave” as his own dog sank its jaws into his arm.

[1960maaan]

I can see myself in this photo, I have a copy in my photo album.
The OB wanted to arrest our entire coach as we arrived, there was an 'incident' in the Pub we stopped at. I managed to convince him it was our only way back and that he should let us in the game. Some got the train back, but we risked it and went back to the coach. With the carnage inside the ground, they had forgotten about us so we were fine. I do remember getting threatened with arrest for swearing, which would have been gutting seeing what was going on all around. 

I'm the one in the Nike jacket 

[RobintheRed Red]

2 hours ago, Magger1 said:

Councillor Tim he’s sound living in old people’s home off kellaway ave see him occasionally but likes the scotch too much , seen his mate like up lions last week 

You got him sussed :laugh:

[RobintheRed Red]

4 hours ago, Magger1 said:

Councillor Tim he’s sound living in old people’s home off kellaway ave see him occasionally but likes the scotch too much , seen his mate like up lions last week 

Luke :laugh:

[City Rocker]

4 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I never tire of reading about games like Reading away, it feels like being part of history, all be it a tainted one.

I actually lived in a hamlet on Exmoor that didn’t even have a pub. Now here I was involved in an event so big and mental it made the back page headlines of the nationals  and we’re still talking about it 38 years later.

I can’t be the only one who would find this kind of thing completely unacceptable now and be ashamed to be associated with it……….but at the time it was one hell of a buzz and weirdly helped you deal with unsavoury incidents as life went on.

After all, if you were at Reading, Millwall, Corinthien Casuals, Swindon etc a flare up in a pub, club or whatever would feel like a quiet night compared. 

 

I know what you mean Ralph. I have literally never had a fight with anyone in my life, but I was always there or thereabouts, in the thick of it at Reading, Dulwich Hamlet, Millwall, Hereford, Cardiff, Aldershot, Torquay, Rovers, Swindon, Walsall, and right there in the Enclosure when West Ham came and had a go. 

Over the years a few of my mates got involved and at times a couple of them got arrested. But not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter...

[City Rocker]

2 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I can see myself in this photo, I have a copy in my photo album.
The OB wanted to arrest our entire coach as we arrived, there was an 'incident' in the Pub we stopped at. I managed to convince him it was our only way back and that he should let us in the game. Some got the train back, but we risked it and went back to the coach. With the carnage inside the ground, they had forgotten about us so we were fine. I do remember getting threatened with arrest for swearing, which would have been gutting seeing what was going on all around. 

I'm the one in the Nike jacket 

I was stood at the top of the terrace behind you, watching it all going off. The image that has stayed in my memory ever since is pretty vivid... a massive chunk of concrete slung over from our terrace and landed on the head of a copper. Just broke over his head. So shocking. I hope he was OK. 

Good times though  

[95red]

14 at the time also sat at the back on the wall got home my mum asked me where I've been all day  

[Oh Louie louie]

That first game of the season when lavin lost his head.

I worked with a kid, not a hooligan, had one to many, cut a long story short, ended up in court drunk disorderly.

I cant recall how many got arrested that day, pretty sure was double figures.

Anyway, he was getting phone calls for months at home, from reading fans. quote, wanting to arrange something for the home leg.

Telephone tough guys.

[ralphindevon]

9 hours ago, City Rocker said:

I know what you mean Ralph. I have literally never had a fight with anyone in my life, but I was always there or thereabouts, in the thick of it at Reading, Dulwich Hamlet, Millwall, Hereford, Cardiff, Aldershot, Torquay, Rovers, Swindon, Walsall, and right there in the Enclosure when West Ham came and had a go. 

Over the years a few of my mates got involved and at times a couple of them got arrested. But not me, I'm a lover, not a fighter...

Me too, there were certainly a lot of occasions where I was glad there were some fighters amongst us, In Dulwich that afternoon there were a couple of moments where me and my mates would have been in serious trouble had those City fans around us not wanted to get involved. 

[Oh Louie louie]

Can recall the 2nd leg of the freight rover against aldershot.

They had a fan who favoured the skinhead look, in the away end.

He must have been aldershots only thug in those days.

He took some stick from the singing in block b that day.

After we scored our 2nd, he snapped and the old bill carted him out the away end!

 

[Oh Louie louie]

A rovers fan i know said one of the games they took a real hiding, was when they got knocked out the fa cup,

By a non leauge team under francis.

I cant remember who it was, think it was outskirts of london.

He said a london united mob turned up for them that day.

[Ciderhead433]

On 28/01/2020 at 19:40, archie andrews said:

Not a chance.... Be like City rovers ganging up

They did when City played Man U 75

 

[RedRock]

12 minutes ago, Ciderhead433 said:

They did when City played Man U 75

 

Ummm…. don’t think they were welcomed in the East End that day.

A case of trying it on and being put firmly in their place from what I recall. 
 

Never forget taking my 10 year old nephew to his first game at The Gate in the early 80’s.

That Millwall match …. Dolman, Block A, centre.
 

What an introduction! Had quite a few dodgy moments over the decades but never seen anything like that home or away, before or after. 

[OneCity]

Away days at Elm park in the 80s, although I missed the one in 84, was always a tasty affair.

Remember the heaving terraces at one end of season game, and a City fan actually climbing the floodlight pylon. Great view from up there I'm sure, but holy hell that was dicey..

Also remember, after one game, the coaches pulling away from the ground and Reading fans lined up on the pavement to see us off - bricks in hand. Can't recall if any got lobbed or not, but yeh, was glad to make it onto the M4 in one piece!

 

[Sixtyseconds]

19 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

 

After all, if you were at Reading, Millwall, Corinthien Casuals, Swindon etc a flare up in a pub, club or whatever would feel like a quiet night compared. 

 

By the time I was twenty I had seen numerous riots.

City.

Gigs. 

Protests.

80's life was a back drop of windmilling pugilists.

I think it changes you ... Has to.

When I see the odd fight, the arms out and the silly bounce.

Not much to see there.

You've always seen better and more threatening and more dangerous. 

 

[ralphindevon]

1 hour ago, Sixtyseconds said:

By the time I was twenty I had seen numerous riots.

City.

Gigs. 

Protests.

80's life was a back drop of windmilling pugilists.

I think it changes you ... Has to.

When I see the odd fight, the arms out and the silly bounce.

Not much to see there.

You've always seen better and more threatening and more dangerous. 

 

Yes and although it’s brilliant nowadays that families can go to matches without fear, there is a mischievous side of me that feels sorry for some of the young ones that missed such a crazy time.

For years I’ve felt sorry for those really keen football fans that have never experienced a huge, noisy overpacked terrace. Even the first time I stood in the east end as lad, first division days, my mind was blown. 

[PHILINFRANCE]

4 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

Yes and although it’s brilliant nowadays that families can go to matches without fear, there is a mischievous side of me that feels sorry for some of the young ones that missed such a crazy time.

For years I’ve felt sorry for those really keen football fans that have never experienced a huge, noisy overpacked terrace. Even the first time I stood in the east end as lad, first division days, my mind was blown. 

Whilst, like many on here, I am glad those heady, violent and often dangerous days of the 1970s are but a distant memory - these days, I prefer a quiet pint or two before the match, before sitting in my comfortable seat in the stand and enjoying the game with a perfect, unobstructed view of the pitch - I still retain memories of some quite hairy away days.

I mean, who could ever forget:

As a young, teenage schoolboy, being told by the local Police at Elland Road that it would be my own fault if I got beaten up on the way back to the coach following City’s 1-0 win in the FA Cup as I shouldn’t have come there in the first place.

Being chased on to the pitch at Villa Park by a group of angry Villa fans, only to be forced back on to the terrace by the local Police.

Spending a pleasant 10 minutes or so in an underpass outside Molineux watching empty milk bottles being thrown over my head.

Being protected from a baying mob and given a Police escort back to our car (all five of us!) after being so stupid as to cheer a last minute winner against Millwall at the old Den.

As Mary Hopkins once sang....

[Nicki's soulmate]

1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Whilst, like many on here, I am glad those heady, violent and often dangerous days of the 1970s are but a distant memory - these days, I prefer a quiet pint or two before the match, before sitting in my comfortable seat in the stand and enjoying the game with a perfect, unobstructed view of the pitch - I still retain memories of some quite hairy away days.

I mean, who could ever forget:

As a young, teenage schoolboy, being told by the local Police at Elland Road that it would be my own fault if I got beaten up on the way back to the coach following City’s 1-0 win in the FA Cup as I shouldn’t have come there in the first place.

Being chased on to the pitch at Villa Park by a group of angry Villa fans, only to be forced back on to the terrace by the local Police.

Spending a pleasant 10 minutes or so in an underpass outside Molineux watching empty milk bottles being thrown over my head.

Being protected from a baying mob and given a Police escort back to our car (all five of us!) after being so stupid as to cheer a last minute winner against Millwall at the old Den.

As Mary Hopkins once sang....

I was right in the middle of the milk bottle incident, scary stuff, FA cup Wolves 73

[swanker]

1 minute ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

I was right in the middle of the milk bottle incident, scary stuff, FA cup Wolves 73

Had a ticket for that match but didn’t go because I was ill with Tonsillitis. Lost 1-0 if my memory is right and I think a player called Richards scored for them?

[PHILINFRANCE]

24 minutes ago, Nicki's soulmate said:

I was right in the middle of the milk bottle incident, scary stuff, FA cup Wolves 73

It was indeed.

20 minutes ago, swanker said:

Had a ticket for that match but didn’t go because I was ill with Tonsillitis. Lost 1-0 if my memory is right and I think a player called Richards scored for them?

John Richards, who played alongside Derek Dougan; both very strong players.

We had ex-Wolves forward Bobby Gould playing for us.

It got even worse a few years later, though, as once Richards and Dougan retired, along came a certain Steve Bull, who seemed to enjoy scoring against us almost as much as David ****ing Kelly of that other Midlands team, Walsall.

Still, we made up for it the following year when we beat Leeds.

 

[Davefevs]

10 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

John Richards, who played alongside Derek Dougan; both very strong players.

Very useful card in Top Trumps!

[Vespa Red]

8 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

A rovers fan i know said one of the games they took a real hiding, was when they got knocked out the fa cup,

By a non leauge team under francis.

I cant remember who it was, think it was outskirts of london.

He said a london united mob turned up for them that day.

Hitchin?

[Oh Louie louie]

A milk bottle fight at wolves.

Battle of the gold tops?

[REDOXO]

3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Whilst, like many on here, I am glad those heady, violent and often dangerous days of the 1970s are but a distant memory - these days, I prefer a quiet pint or two before the match, before sitting in my comfortable seat in the stand and enjoying the game with a perfect, unobstructed view of the pitch - I still retain memories of some quite hairy away days.

I mean, who could ever forget:

As a young, teenage schoolboy, being told by the local Police at Elland Road that it would be my own fault if I got beaten up on the way back to the coach following City’s 1-0 win in the FA Cup as I shouldn’t have come there in the first place.

Being chased on to the pitch at Villa Park by a group of angry Villa fans, only to be forced back on to the terrace by the local Police.

Spending a pleasant 10 minutes or so in an underpass outside Molineux watching empty milk bottles being thrown over my head.

Being protected from a baying mob and given a Police escort back to our car (all five of us!) after being so stupid as to cheer a last minute winner against Millwall at the old Den.

As Mary Hopkins once sang....

I got chucked back in by a copper at the front of the north stand at Chelsea. The stories I have home and away are many and various, but I was late to arrive at Dulwich Hamlet and missed the main event. My luckiest day it seems!

[Tin Soldier]

Anyone remember the milk bottle/milk float incident v Millwall many years ago. Hijacked by City fans.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Tin Soldier

[sglosbcfc]

In more recent times I remember winning at Cardiff when Scott Murray did 'that celebration' after scoring. After the match I had to get across the Ninian Park car park to get to my motor. There was a full scale riot and the Soul Crew were driving back the South Wales Police. I turned to one copper and said 'I have to get across the car park' he just grinned and said 'good luck, we can't help you because we have lost control' I still don't really know how I made it across, I kept looking at my feet and walking, I felt breath on my neck more than once but just didn't look up. The vicious atmosphere was such that if I'd been hit to the ground I really think there would have been a good chance of me being killed.

[firstdivision]

Jeez - some of the misplaced nostalgia on this thread.

I used to hate the violence, hate it with a passion. 

Now I can take my 14yo daughter to away matches  largely without fear of her or me having our heads split open by a moron. (Yeah, I was head-butted after a Millwall game in the 80s as I was walking away from the Gate minding my own business.) 

I actually went for the football in those days (and these days). Those who didn't should, frankly, be ashamed.

 

[Oh Louie louie]

Sexton went on that hooligan doc on the bbc, when they were undercover at the cardiff games.

He did not come across well.

[Tin Soldier]

Reading away made national headlines at the time.

Edited January 16, 2022 by Tin Soldier

[Oh Louie louie]

In that everton fans book scally, he was working in london, and got on the train with our lot from reading.

He said it was a proper mob of casuals, and they had smashed reading up so bad, the manager was going to jack.

[Mike Stone]

On 12/01/2022 at 23:57, sglosbcfc said:

In more recent times I remember winning at Cardiff when Scott Murray did 'that celebration' after scoring. After the match I had to get across the Ninian Park car park to get to my motor. There was a full scale riot and the Soul Crew were driving back the South Wales Police. I turned to one copper and said 'I have to get across the car park' he just grinned and said 'good luck, we can't help you because we have lost control' I still don't really know how I made it across, I kept looking at my feet and walking, I felt breath on my neck more than once but just didn't look up. The vicious atmosphere was such that if I'd been hit to the ground I really think there would have been a good chance of me being killed.

Whenever this game is mentioned I often wonder what happened to the City lad who was in front of me as we left the ground. I was looking at the sea of faces where my car was parked as a brick hit him full in the face splitting it open and felling him to his knees. Luckily for me he was a good foot taller than me otherwise it had my name on it.

[BS3City]

I'm sure the events mentioned at Crapdiff occurred only a week or two before some widely reported violence in a cup game between them and Leeds (although I could be wrong). 

The Crapdiff stuff at our game was the worst I've ever experienced, but barely got a mention nationally IIRC.

[Red]

5 hours ago, Tin Soldier said:

Reading away made national headlines at the time.

Funny how you notice old mates after all these years isn't it Mark, sadly Steve no longer with us.

[Tin Soldier]

11 minutes ago, Red said:

Funny how you notice old mates after all these years isn't it Mark, sadly Steve no longer with us.

I was not going to mention this but some well known City in those pics. Good days as a City fan as the club was on the up after some desperate years before.

[INCRED]

On 12/01/2022 at 18:33, Tin Soldier said:

Anyone remember the milk bottle/milk float incident v Millwall many years ago. Hijacked by City fans.

Yep, I was in the coach in front of the Venture inn coach and they leant out of the windows as they had no glass in them and helped themselves to quite a few empty crates of milk bottles

in front was a line of riot police and you could see the Milwall mob running towards them and milk bottles being launched over their heads from the Venture inn coach - hilarious looking back but as a 15y old I was shitting it, especially when the police inspector came on board and told us to sit in the central aisle in case our windows were put in

[sglosbcfc]

8 hours ago, Tin Soldier said:

Reading away made national headlines at the time.

Very clear photo for the mid 1980s. It must have been quite easy for the football 'spotters' to identify main culprits. With 4K (or whatever the top spec is nowadays) for cameras, they would be identify every last minor detail on any hooligans face unless they were wearing a balaclava!

[Sixtyseconds]

10 hours ago, Tin Soldier said:

Reading away made national headlines at the time.

Patrick kagoule ahoy!!

[Norn Iron]

On 12/01/2022 at 15:03, PHILINFRANCE said:

Being protected from a baying mob and given a Police escort back to our car (all five of us!) 

As Mary Hopkins once sang....

Knock, Knock. Who's There?

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, couldn't resist. And just to be even more pedantic it was Mary Hopkin. She was singular!

[PHILINFRANCE]

1 hour ago, Norn Iron said:

Sorry, couldn't resist. And just to be even more pedantic it was Mary Hopkin. She was singular!

No problem whatsoever, on the contrary.

I may have known back in the 1960s, but time fades memory for all of us, and I was convinced she was plural.

TWTD used to be one of my favourite records growing up, along with The Seekers' 'The Carnival is Over', and, as often happens, I still recall some trivia about both songs.

I am sure you are aware, but both TWTD and TCiO were originally Russian folk songs, and the former was actually released on the Apple label (their second release after The Beatles' 'Hey Jude') and produced by Paul McCartney, whose brother, Mike McGear, was a member of the Liverpool group The Scaffold.

The Scaffold, of course, recorded Lily the Pink, also based on old folk song, and their backing vocalists included, inter alia, Elton John (then Reg Dwight), and Tim Rice - they also wrote and recorded The Liver Birds, but then you probably knew that. 

 

[Norn Iron]

45 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

No problem whatsoever, on the contrary.

I may have known back in the 1960s, but time fades memory for all of us, and I was convinced she was plural.

TWTD used to be one of my favourite records growing up, along with The Seekers' 'The Carnival is Over', and, as often happens, I still recall some trivia about both songs.

I am sure you are aware, but both TWTD and TCiO were originally Russian folk songs, and the former was actually released on the Apple label (their second release after The Beatles' 'Hey Jude') and produced by Paul McCartney, whose brother, Mike McGear, was a member of the Liverpool group The Scaffold.

The Scaffold, of course, recorded Lily the Pink, also based on old folk song, and their backing vocalists included, inter alia, Elton John (then Reg Dwight), and Tim Rice - they also wrote and recorded The Liver Birds, but then you probably knew that. 

 

Superb Phil! I knew most but not all of the above. Never knew about the Russian folk song links!

And of course Mary married Tony Visconti who gets mentioned having a kiss with Julie Christie allegedly in a famous David Bowie song!

[Red Skin]

On 12/01/2022 at 08:55, Oh Louie louie said:

A rovers fan i know said one of the games they took a real hiding, was when they got knocked out the fa cup,

By a non leauge team under francis.

I cant remember who it was, think it was outskirts of london.

He said a london united mob turned up for them that day.

 

On 12/01/2022 at 17:29, Vespa Red said:

Hitchin?

Yep, my hometown. I was there that day.  Think Rovers got a shock result on and off the pitch.   Don't think there was any First Division games that day so any lads from Hitchin that usually follow London clubs came to the Top Field instead.  Think global, act local.

[Red-Robbo]

37 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

And of course Mary married Tony Visconti who gets mentioned having a kiss with Julie Christie allegedly in a famous David Bowie song!

 

Which one, NI?

[Oh Louie louie]

Take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy!

[Oh Louie louie]

Life on mars, this songs going out to our friends in the west midlands police force.

[PHILINFRANCE]

25 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

Superb Phil! I knew most but not all of the above. Never knew about the Russian folk song links!

And of course Mary married Tony Visconti who gets mentioned having a kiss with Julie Christie allegedly in a famous David Bowie song!

Thanks.

Another (trivia) subject I meant to raise with you some time ago concerns The Rutles - I think that we discussed them in a thread about Neil Innes.

Whilst my original 1970s 'The Rutles' album has long since disappeared, I was convinced that one of the lead singers on the album was Eric Idle, notably singing 'I Must be In Love' and 'With a Girl Like You'. 

I was adamant that he, Eric Idle, 'sang' on the album, whilst you remained adamant he didn't, even going so far as to ask me whether you 'needed to spell it out'!

Anyway, I didn't reply, even though I was convinced I was right and you were wrong, but I was left with a nagging doubt, as you appeared to have some connection with, if I recall correctly, both Neil Innes and George Harrison.

Well, to cut a long story short, I recently came across a 'mockumentary' entitled 'All You Need is Cash', co-directed by Eric Idle, who, of course, sang both 'I Must be In Love' and 'With a Girl Like You' in the film.

Ha, Touché!

Except....

I read up on some background to the film and discovered that Eric Idle sang both songs in the film/mockumentary, but not on the original 'The Rutles' album.

Luckily, I didn't reply (angrily) to your earlier post . 

[big dosser]

Plymouth away i think 96/97 now that got to be up there with reading game. Remember parking the minibus behind i think the cherry tree pub.nice game of pool for about 30mins before lads came in grab the cues and balls and anything else they could be thrown at a row of old bill. Wild scenes before the match through the game and after,dont think many paid to get in as bust the gates open. Only problem got back to the cherry tree and are minibus was not very well.thank god there was some top lads on it and a bus from the rising sun would not leave till are minibus was sorted.im sure the plymouth harold paper called it cowboys and indians.the whole day was mental from start to finish

 

[Tin Soldier]

12 minutes ago, big dosser said:

Plymouth away i think 96/97 now that got to be up there with reading game. Remember parking the minibus behind i think the cherry tree pub.nice game of pool for about 30mins before lads came in grab the cues and balls and anything else they could be thrown at a row of old bill. Wild scenes before the match through the game and after,dont think many paid to get in as bust the gates open. Only problem got back to the cherry tree and are minibus was not very well.thank god there was some top lads on it and a bus from the rising sun would not leave till are minibus was sorted.im sure the plymouth harold paper called it cowboys and indians.the whole day was mental from start to finish

 

Not sure of the year as long ago and went to several Plymouth away at the time, but one Plymouth away we went down the night before (bus load) and the locals got agitated around Union street. Got quite hairy at the time. 

Enjoyed playing Plymouth home and away as always brought loads to AG also. Proper derby games. 

[Norn Iron]

36 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Which one, NI?

Phew! I'm so glad I put 'allegedly' in my original post. I was in a rush me lud!

The song in question is Heroes. The lovers were Tony Visconti and his girlfriend at the time who was definitely not Julie Christie. However, Julie was mentioned in Waterloo Sunset by The Kinks....allegedly (!)

[Norn Iron]

20 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

I was adamant that he, Eric Idle, 'sang' on the album, whilst you remained adamant he didn't, even going so far as to ask me whether you 'needed to spell it out'!

I was really, really pleased with myself for that quip. I doubt if many got it but if you know The Rutles Album you'll love the Cheese And Onions track which is a spoof of Across The Universe with A Day in The Life type of ending! "Do I have to spell it out" sang Neil with the next line being C -H -E -E -S -E A -N- D -O -N -I -O -N -S!

Anyway, I didn't reply, even though I was convinced I was right and you were wrong, but I was left with a nagging doubt, as you appeared to have some connection with, if I recall correctly, both Neil Innes and George Harrison.

If only Phil. No idea what I must have said. The closest I've ever got to a Beatle was at  Macca's Wembley Arena gig around 1990.

 

 

Just now, Norn Iron said:

 

Click to find replies!

[Norn Iron]

Phil,

I know Wikipedia isn't 100% accurate but both Rutle entries (album and film) state that Neil and Ollie sang the lead vocals. Not Eric who mimed. Very interested to have a link to prove otherwise!

 

[PHILINFRANCE]

28 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

Anyway, I didn't reply, even though I was convinced I was right and you were wrong, but I was left with a nagging doubt, as you appeared to have some connection with, if I recall correctly, both Neil Innes and George Harrison.

If only Phil. No idea what I must have said. The closest I've ever got to a Beatle was at  Macca's Wembley Arena gig around 1990.

It was quite some time ago, but, from memory, you mentioned something about NI and GH sitting around at night, discussing music and playing some music/songs together - or something like that....

8 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

Phil,

I know Wikipedia isn't 100% accurate but both Rutle entries (album and film) state that Neil and Ollie sang the lead vocals. Not Eric who mimed. Very interested to have a link to prove otherwise!

 

You are probably correct.

I am not sure my 'recollection' came from WIKI; rather from my memory, the same memory that convinced me that Mary H was plural. 

[Norn Iron]

1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

It was quite some time ago, but, from memory, you mentioned something about NI and GH sitting around at night, discussing music and playing some music/songs together - or something like 

Yep. I did say that! Your memory is great apart from somehow thinking I was there.....if only! They sang Ouch! amongst other songs.

 

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

7 hours ago, Norn Iron said:

Knock, Knock. Who's There?

 

A&S Police at 4am?

[TV Tom]

4 hours ago, Norn Iron said:

Superb Phil! I knew most but not all of the above. Never knew about the Russian folk song links!

And of course Mary married Tony Visconti who gets mentioned having a kiss with Julie Christie allegedly in a famous David Bowie song!

The laughing gnome?

[Lanterne Rouge]

51 minutes ago, harrys said:

The laughing gnome?

On David`s last tour he had an online poll for fans to vote for a classic and he would perform the song that won.

Guess what did? The great man refused to do it as he has always hated it.

[Norn Iron]

11 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

On David`s last tour he had an online poll for fans to vote for a classic and he would perform the song that won.

Guess what did? The great man refused to do it as he has always hated it.

And so many great puns.

London School of Econgnomics being the best! 

[Lanterne Rouge]

31 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

And so many great puns.

London School of Econgnomics being the best! 

`Ain`t you got a gnome to go to?`

`No. I`m a gnomad`

[Ciderhead433]

On 12/01/2022 at 16:08, Nicki's soulmate said:

I was right in the middle of the milk bottle incident, scary stuff, FA cup Wolves 73

That was a fun day could do nothing about it 

[Oh Louie louie]

Knock knock.

Whos there?

Doorbell repar guy...

[southside]

On 16/01/2022 at 17:33, Red said:

Funny how you notice old mates after all these years isn't it Mark, sadly Steve no longer with us.

Couple of my my old mates in the pics as well, both gone

[southside]

10 hours ago, Ciderhead433 said:

On 17/01/2022 at 20:18, Norn Iron said:

And so many great puns.

London School of Econgnomics being the best! 

Didn't they teach you to get your haircut at school?, you look like a Rolling gnome

 

[BTRFTG]

On 12/01/2022 at 23:57, sglosbcfc said:

In more recent times I remember winning at Cardiff when Scott Murray did 'that celebration' after scoring. After the match I had to get across the Ninian Park car park to get to my motor. There was a full scale riot and the Soul Crew were driving back the South Wales Police. I turned to one copper and said 'I have to get across the car park' he just grinned and said 'good luck, we can't help you because we have lost control' I still don't really know how I made it across, I kept looking at my feet and walking, I felt breath on my neck more than once but just didn't look up. The vicious atmosphere was such that if I'd been hit to the ground I really think there would have been a good chance of me being killed.

Very happy to have waited in the shelter of the rear open doors of an Old Billmobile in the car park, as some of ours had been bricked.

Could see the getaway car in the distance, just couldn't get to it.

To be fair the copper called it right as once they let City out from that hellhole behind the gates where we were fodder for their bricks, the Old Bill let Cardiff burn themselves out as their attention very quickly turned from City to the Cardiff directors against whom they were protesting. The rear of the stand took one hellava beating.

[BTRFTG]

On 17/01/2022 at 15:41, PHILINFRANCE said:

Thanks.

Another (trivia) subject I meant to raise with you some time ago concerns The Rutles - I think that we discussed them in a thread about Neil Innes.

Whilst my original 1970s 'The Rutles' album has long since disappeared, I was convinced that one of the lead singers on the album was Eric Idle, notably singing 'I Must be In Love' and 'With a Girl Like You'. 

I was adamant that he, Eric Idle, 'sang' on the album, whilst you remained adamant he didn't, even going so far as to ask me whether you 'needed to spell it out'!

Anyway, I didn't reply, even though I was convinced I was right and you were wrong, but I was left with a nagging doubt, as you appeared to have some connection with, if I recall correctly, both Neil Innes and George Harrison.

Well, to cut a long story short, I recently came across a 'mockumentary' entitled 'All You Need is Cash', co-directed by Eric Idle, who, of course, sang both 'I Must be In Love' and 'With a Girl Like You' in the film.

Ha, Touché!

Except....

I read up on some background to the film and discovered that Eric Idle sang both songs in the film/mockumentary, but not on the original 'The Rutles' album.

Luckily, I didn't reply (angrily) to your earlier post . 

I've the anniversary edition of the 'All You Need Is Cash' DVD and on Idle's directors notes, he relates he was seriously unwell when the album was recorded so yes, you're right in he sings in the movie but not on the record.

As for 'Cheese & Onions', there's that fine McCartney quote that it's '..the greatest Beatles song never written by the Beatles.'

 

[BTRFTG]

On 17/01/2022 at 15:43, big dosser said:

Plymouth away i think 96/97 now that got to be up there with reading game.

No comparison. Pasties saw kids running up and down the street pointing and shouting with little in the ground. Reading: on the terrace it was as though McAlpine's had turned up and begun digging footings for a towerblock......

[Tin Soldier]

Another picture from Reading away in the 80s. RIP to my old mate in that picture, well known down AG. Great days.