Silvio Dante Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Hear me out here. I don’t believe SL was holding out for the slim possibility of playoffs under Holden. That would have made no sense, and he, as us, wouldn’t want us to be rudderless. I then think logically. If it was to be Hughton - he could be in by now. He wouldn’t get a prem job and we know he’s interested. Lesser extent won’t be Mick as he’d be in by now. It wouldn’t be Robins, or Lowe, or Flynn. They’re in jobs, but there is no current ties - and Robins is already buying for next season. They’d be in by now two weeks after LJ going. It wouldn’t be Gerrard. I do like the idea but also think it’s fanciful and again, Rangers are in pre season - he could come now, and the SPL starts on 1st August. It wouldn’t be Howe or Dyche - too big for us. So, all logic gets me to the following: - It’s someone in a job currently. But a job that is “live”. I.e a championship manager - As noted on other threads, it’s someone who can work within the budgets imposed by COVID and improve players, and also go in the clubs philosophy Cook, although having moved clubs, is an honourable man - see his current Wigan actions (phoning all staff etc). He won’t leave until after Weds, no doubt, as he wouldn’t walk in their current scenario until the seasons done. Its Cook. I can’t see any other choice that wouldn’t be in place by now. And, tbf, I’d take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: Hear me out here. I don’t believe SL was holding out for the slim possibility of playoffs under Holden. That would have made no sense, and he, as us, wouldn’t want us to be rudderless. I then think logically. If it was to be Hughton - he could be in by now. He wouldn’t get a prem job and we know he’s interested. Lesser extent won’t be Mick as he’d be in by now. It wouldn’t be Robins, or Lowe, or Flynn. They’re in jobs, but there is no current ties - and Robins is already buying for next season. They’d be in by now two weeks after LJ going. It wouldn’t be Gerrard. I do like the idea but also think it’s fanciful and again, Rangers are in pre season - he could come now, and the SPL starts on 1st August. It wouldn’t be Howe or Dyche - too big for us. So, all logic gets me to the following: - It’s someone in a job currently. But a job that is “live”. I.e a championship manager - As noted on other threads, it’s someone who can work within the budgets imposed by COVID and improve players, and also go in the clubs philosophy Cook, although having moved clubs, is an honourable man - see his current Wigan actions (phoning all staff etc). He won’t leave until after Weds, no doubt, as he wouldn’t walk in their current scenario until the seasons done. Its Cook. I can’t see any other choice that wouldn’t be in place by now. And, tbf, I’d take that. Agree you , we have a championship manager lined up - either Cook or Alex Neil from Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Alex Neil not happy at PNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I'd have some of that seeing as I put a Tony Benn on him at a pony to one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Oh you silly thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I hope to God it isnt Alex Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I'd be happy with either of those options. Paul Cook must have earned a billion brownie points for his much publicised phoning round the staff exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lez said: I hope to God it isnt Alex Neill why? (genuinely interested). He did well at Norwich (a club that we would like to imitate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: why? (genuinely interested). He did well at Norwich (a club that we would like to imitate) To be fair I don't know why, cant put my finger on it. Never understood his footballing philosophy.....where as with Paul Cook its clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Long time admirer of Cook. Alex Neil got Norwich up, but I suspect some apathy on here is based on the way he’s got his Preston team to play, which is quite cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Paul Cook or Alex Neil would be understandable appointments. An upgrade on the last incumbent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew me Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Agree, the only reason for the delay is due to the fact the manager is still working. Cook is on the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 I hadn’t thought about until now but I think you are right @Silvio Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lez said: To be fair I don't know why, cant put my finger on it. Never understood his footballing philosophy.....where as with Paul Cook its clear. I'm not sure on him either, Preston have been like us the past couple of years, dropping off towards the end of the season. I'd have Cook out of the 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Long time admirer of Cook. Alex Neil got Norwich up, but I suspect some apathy on here is based on the way he’s got his Preston team to play, which is quite cynical. But by the same token, if you were offered the most cynical one, Ben Pearson, you or I would take him. FWIW I share the apathy on Neil. I think he got on a hot streak with Norwich but have my doubts over his ability to replicate - and God knows I’ve had enough streaks from City in the last 4 years to last me a lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lez said: To be fair I don't know why, cant put my finger on it. Never understood his footballing philosophy.....where as with Paul Cook its clear. In recent times at Preston he's having to work with what he gets given so potentially can't play the style he wants to. Apparently after selling Hugill for what £10m plus he was given less than a million to replace him etc. His Norwich team from memory were good, looked into the championship sides around christmas and can remember since he's taken over at PNE there's been a clear intention to press similar to our 17/18 style, doesn't allow opposition to make many passes per defensive action they perform etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Hear me out here. I don’t believe SL was holding out for the slim possibility of playoffs under Holden. That would have made no sense, and he, as us, wouldn’t want us to be rudderless. I then think logically. If it was to be Hughton - he could be in by now. He wouldn’t get a prem job and we know he’s interested. Lesser extent won’t be Mick as he’d be in by now. It wouldn’t be Robins, or Lowe, or Flynn. They’re in jobs, but there is no current ties - and Robins is already buying for next season. They’d be in by now two weeks after LJ going. It wouldn’t be Gerrard. I do like the idea but also think it’s fanciful and again, Rangers are in pre season - he could come now, and the SPL starts on 1st August. It wouldn’t be Howe or Dyche - too big for us. So, all logic gets me to the following: - It’s someone in a job currently. But a job that is “live”. I.e a championship manager - As noted on other threads, it’s someone who can work within the budgets imposed by COVID and improve players, and also go in the clubs philosophy Cook, although having moved clubs, is an honourable man - see his current Wigan actions (phoning all staff etc). He won’t leave until after Weds, no doubt, as he wouldn’t walk in their current scenario until the seasons done. Its Cook. I can’t see any other choice that wouldn’t be in place by now. And, tbf, I’d take that. That's pretty sound logic, SD. I agree on Hughton. His agent may have sounded out Ashton about salary, budgets, managerial control etc and advised his client that it wasn't a goer. The Gerrard link always seemed fanciful, considering his rumoured salary, the cost of a potential compensation claim and well, why would he want to leave Rangers for City? Lets just pray that the next Head Coach, whoever they are, can get City into the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Lrrr said: In recent times at Preston he's having to work with what he gets given so potentially can't play the style he wants to. Apparently after selling Hugill for what £10m plus he was given less than a million to replace him etc. His Norwich team from memory were good, looked into the championship sides around christmas and can remember since he's taken over at PNE there's been a clear intention to press similar to our 17/18 style, doesn't allow opposition to make many passes per defensive action they perform etc. True I agree he can do better than Preston.....personally Cook has been my number 1 choice from the start do will be disappointed if we dont get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Long time admirer of Cook. Alex Neil got Norwich up, but I suspect some apathy on here is based on the way he’s got his Preston team to play, which is quite cynical. Allow him to actually reinvest some of what he brings in and perhaps he could produce a better style, seems very practical/making the best of what he has style at PNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Thought this was news saying its Cook. Prefer Robins as a realistic option. My god I’d be delighted with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Lez said: Cook has been my number 1 choice from the start do will be disappointed if we dont get him. He was definitely in my top 3. I'll be happy if it's him. I don't think I want A.Neill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 On sky bet Cook 5/1 & Neil 25/1 if anyone interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Cook seems to be heavily linked with Birmingham and Boro. He is not a polished operator.....the opposite of SL and MA. For that reason I question whether either side will be seriously interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: But by the same token, if you were offered the most cynical one, Ben Pearson, you or I would take him. FWIW I share the apathy on Neil. I think he got on a hot streak with Norwich but have my doubts over his ability to replicate - and God knows I’ve had enough streaks from City in the last 4 years to last me a lifetime Yeah, totally. I like what his Preston team do on the ball though. 3 minutes ago, Lez said: True I agree he can do better than Preston.....personally Cook has been my number 1 choice from the start do will be disappointed if we dont get him. Been on my list since I really started to see LJ’s flaws (Around Nov 2018). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Davefevs said: Yeah, totally. I like what his Preston team do on the ball though. Been on my list since I really started to see LJ’s flaws (Around Nov 2018). Been on my list since watching his Chesterfield sides in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Lez said: Cook seems to be heavily linked with Birmingham and Boro. He is not a polished operator.....the opposite of SL and MA. For that reason I question whether either side will be seriously interested. I think you’re confusing “Northern” with “Polished”. He comes across as unpolished but he knows his stuff. SL will have seen the “Wilder effect” and he’s the closest to that. And why would anyone - particularly Cook who’s living through admin - be interested in Brum but not a stable club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Neil has finished above us twice in three seasons with a club no bigger than Wigan and has won promotion to the Prem. He would be a much better choice than Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Galway Red said: I'd have some of that seeing as I put a Tony Benn on him at a pony to one Pardon? Which Polynesian language is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 Posted very similar to this earlier. I think Cook is looking likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yeah, totally. I like what his Preston team do on the ball though. Been on my list since I really started to see LJ’s flaws (Around Nov 2018). Took you that long eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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