LondonBristolian Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 As funny as Forest’s capitulation is, it’s hard not to admire the job Cooper has done at Swansea. Their financial situation is not great, they sold their best player to Man Utd in the summer and appointed a manager only those familiar with England’s back room set up were familiar with and to make the play-offs is an overachievement on expectations. I hate to say it but there has to be a bit of a lesson for us in there - especially about the importance of going for the manager with the potential to do the job required, regardless of whether they are the biggest name or have the best track record. Hope Brentford beat them in the play-offs, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: As funny as Forest’s capitulation is, it’s hard not to admire the job Cooper has done at Swansea. Their financial situation is not great, they sold their best player to Man Utd in the summer and appointed a manager only those familiar with England’s back room set up were familiar with and to make the play-offs is an overachievement on expectations. I hate to say it but there has to be a bit of a lesson for us in there - especially about the importance of going for the manager with the potential to do the job required, regardless of whether they are the biggest name or have the best track record. Hope Brentford beat them in the play-offs, mind. The meltdown if we'd have appointed him would have been embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Swansea really have made some great appointments over the years. They really think outside the box. I think it really helps having a philosophy of what you want your club to be and getting managers who's profile fits that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Swansea’s gain was Charlton’s loss, Gallagher probably would have helped charlton stay up. Being given Rhian Brewster doesn’t hurt either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 He has done fine job (see also England (u20?) World Cup win), but I can only imagine the wages of some of their players Like Ayew, Van de Hoorn(?). Just saying it’s not quite a plucky rags to play off story. oh and parachute payments out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: The meltdown if we'd have appointed him would have been embarrassing. The difference is Swansea's excellent track record of managerial appointments. Ours is pretty woeful by comparison...hence trust is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Red Exile said: The difference is Swansea's excellent track record of managerial appointments. Ours is pretty woeful by comparison...hence trust is low. They're a great example, also often have 5/6 academy players in their match day squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, steveybadger said: He has done fine job (see also England (u20?) World Cup win), but I can only imagine the wages of some of their players Like Ayew, Van de Hoorn(?). Just saying it’s not quite a plucky rags to play off story. oh and parachute payments out! Didn’t he use his experience of knowing where to get some of loans from, from his time as England’s U20 squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Didn’t he use his experience of knowing where to get some of loans from, from his time as England’s U20 squad? Pretty sure Brewster was one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Imagine if we had appointed Steve Cooper or Neil Harris. Fans uproar. Both made the play offs against the odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Pretty sure Brewster was one Guehi and Brewster were part of his u17 (not u20) WC winning squad. Both scored in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Guehi and Brewster were part of his u17 (not u20) WC winning squad. Both scored in the final. Knew it was under something’s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Imagine if we had appointed Steve Cooper or Neil Harris. Fans uproar. Both made the play offs against the odds Indeed. Not sure about Cooper but, from memory, the reaction of Cardiff fans to Harris's appointment was not positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 I know we are talking about a football coach; and this is not a beauty contest, but my God, he is one ugly bastard ! We're talking Dowie levels here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 hours ago, steveybadger said: He has done fine job (see also England (u20?) World Cup win), but I can only imagine the wages of some of their players Like Ayew, Van de Hoorn(?). Just saying it’s not quite a plucky rags to play off story. oh and parachute payments out! Ayew is on £60k a week! They tried their best to offload him last season when he went on loan to Fenerbahce but the Turkish team didn’t make the deal permanent. Borja Baston, who they finally got off the wage bill in January (basket case Villa of course obliged) was on £80k a week.. Cooper has done really well but on that sort of wages Ayew should be good, (he is, if a lot of a diver) shouldn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Ayew is on £60k a week! They tried their best to offload him last season when he went on loan to Fenerbahce but the Turkish team didn’t make the deal permanent. Borja Baston, who they finally got off the wage bill in January (basket case Villa of course obliged) was on £80k a week.. Cooper has done really well but on that sort of wages Ayew should be good, (he is, if a lot of a diver) shouldn’t he? They had been waiting for ages for Bony's contract to expire as well, £130,000 ish a week and apparently wasn't a big relegation reduction clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Ayew is on £60k a week! They tried their best to offload him last season when he went on loan to Fenerbahce but the Turkish team didn’t make the deal permanent. Borja Baston, who they finally got off the wage bill in January (basket case Villa of course obliged) was on £80k a week.. Cooper has done really well but on that sort of wages Ayew should be good, (he is, if a lot of a diver) shouldn’t he? 60k doesn’t surprise me given his pedigree before he joined. He strikes me as a championship Pogba - you can see he is much better than he’s playing like, probably coz he doesn’t want to be there but can’t get the same loot elsewhere. Might be doing him a disservice but came across that way on Saturday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: As funny as Forest’s capitulation is, it’s hard not to admire the job Cooper has done at Swansea. Their financial situation is not great, they sold their best player to Man Utd in the summer and appointed a manager only those familiar with England’s back room set up were familiar with and to make the play-offs is an overachievement on expectations. I hate to say it but there has to be a bit of a lesson for us in there - especially about the importance of going for the manager with the potential to do the job required, regardless of whether they are the biggest name or have the best track record. Hope Brentford beat them in the play-offs, mind. Nice one .... and your thread title has made my mind buzz into action for a new triv question to add to my collection - something along the lines of managers with the same initials as their clubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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