Red Exile Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Hard to put it into words but almost a patronising arrogance that emanates from top to bottom from the marketing, to the social media, the teasing of transfers, the language used, the with-holding of clear comms around transfers, contracts and injuries etc. Like we should be grateful for everything when all most of us want is a connection and a team on the pitch capable of stirring passion and making us want to support them. Thing is - the connection and stirring of passion needs investment of more than money. I've seen no evidence that the Chairman or CEO would know how to have a conversation with a regular supporter of the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Realistic alternative then. Is Eddie Howe realistic? Paul cook? Nigel Adkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, lenred said: By getting Chelsea into the Champions League with zero spend last season? (not that he would come here so its a completely moot point) I won't debate finances on this thread- but at Derby they were pumped up, through varied methods. He is a bit of a cheque book manager though, or could be shaping up as one. Oh alright then- £40m making permanent of Kovacic, probably 3rd highest wage bill in League, side had finished 3rd year before etc. Did blood some youth well though. 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I'd take Hughes, he is a good manager who knows how to get out of this league, And would be better then the last 2 managers we've had if backed to the same extent Which promotions has he achieved? I think he might have had his day a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: I'd take Hughes, he is a good manager who knows how to get out of this league, And would be better then the last 2 managers we've had if backed to the same extent The point is, there is not anyone with any experience, character, ideas around recruitment, input into club culture, that will take the job. In order for anyone to come in and “manage” there will need to be a relinquishment of responsibilities in other key roles that will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 We’re not going to approach Hughes. We’re not going to approach Lampard. We’re not even going to get rid of Holden. The Alien bloke is a complete fantasist and should never be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 We are getting everything i knew we would get with Holden. An absolute disaster of an appointment and the board and owner are getting everything they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Realistic alternative then. Is Eddie Howe realistic? Paul cook? Nigel Adkins? Is Nigel Pearson available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Red Exile said: Thing is - the connection and stirring of passion needs investment of more than money. I've seen no evidence that the Chairman or CEO would know how to have a conversation with a regular supporter of the club... Exactly. There is almost a condescending acceptance of this clubs fanbase and lifeblood as almost a necessary but annoying requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Bull5hit or wishful thinking? **** me you know you’re in trouble when the Alien appears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Lumsden, Millen and now Holden, it'll just keep happening.. Will we appoint a manager that anyone outside of Bristol has heard of? I doubt it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, beaverface said: Is Nigel Pearson available? Pearson - Ashton - Lansdown That would be interesting It simply won’t happen (Though Id take Pearson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: **** me you know you’re in trouble when the Alien appears I saw it on social media RA75 and thought I would share it, more in hope than expectation TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, beaverface said: Is Nigel Pearson available? He is the exact type of Manager SL wouldn't appoint. Likes to bring in his own staff and has a bit about him so SL and MA and whoever else wouldn't know how to deal with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Ska Junkie said: I saw it on social media RA75 and thought I would share it, more in hope than expectation TBH. It’s the hope that kills you SJ. The alien is full of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Hughes is past his sell by date. True but Holden is raw, unproven and not fit for human consumption! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I am seriously considering watching Gloucester city instead next season. I used to watch them a few times but i,m starting to think there is more entertainment and more ambition at a national league North club than the garbage being dished up at Ashton gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 FWIW, and I fully expect to be in a minority, I’m Holden in. I never want to see us be a revolving door and I really want him to succeed. If we’re in trouble mid March, I’ll probably turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: FWIW, and I fully expect to be in a minority, I’m Holden in. I never want to see us be a revolving door and I really want him to succeed. If we’re in trouble mid March, I’ll probably turn. Wouldn’t be a revolving door. Dean has been here years. As Assistant and trusted right-hand man of the man he replaced. Even as I am typing that I am thinking “who thought this would actually work”. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: FWIW, and I fully expect to be in a minority, I’m Holden in. I never want to see us be a revolving door and I really want him to succeed. If we’re in trouble mid March, I’ll probably turn. Think you will find we all want him to succeed as that means the Club are succeeding Im intrigued but your mindset - we had the same by many under Johnson ‘I’m behind him now but if in a months time....blah blah’ Can I ask - What do you see in a Holden and his Lieutenants that would convince you he’s the right man to take us forward - Because thats the crux of it (Or is it just hope ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Good luck with the season ticket sales next season at Premier League prices for Holdenball. I feel sorry for DH mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Think you will find we all want him to succeed as that means the Club are succeeding Im intrigued but your mindset - we had the same by many under Johnson ‘I’m behind him now but if in a months time....blah blah’ Can I ask - What do you see in a Holden and his Lieutenants that would convince you he’s the right man to take us forward - Because thats the crux of it (Or is it just hope ?) It’s hope. And that’s ok. I like the man and want it to work out, I never want to see us be a Chelsea spaffing a manager out the door every 9 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BCFCGav said: It’s hope. And that’s ok. I like the man and want it to work out, I never want to see us be a Chelsea spaffing a manager out the door every 9 months. And I don’t want us to slide towards League One as we historically do Mere hope does not bring progression Decisions based on hope often brings relegation though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Think you will find we all want him to succeed as that means the Club are succeeding Im intrigued but your mindset - we had the same by many under Johnson ‘I’m behind him now but if in a months time....blah blah’ Can I ask - What do you see in a Holden and his Lieutenants that would convince you he’s the right man to take us forward - Because thats the crux of it (Or is it just hope ?) The fact is with LJ, over the years, he put so much in place and we saw progress on the pitch. Coupled that with some memorable spells of good football, great away wins and of course the cup run. Yes plenty of negatives, but for many the positives put equity in the bank. The difference for DH is we’ve seen so little equity going in the bank, perhaps unfair to compare given he’s only been managing for 6 months or so, but that’s the way it is. No big wins, nothing to get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: And I don’t want us to slide towards League One as we historically do Mere hope does not bring progression Decisions based on hope often brings relegation though We have April. A new manager bounce coincided with a very kind April keeps us up. That’s a solid plan b. Until then, I’m behind plan a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It’s hope. And that’s ok. I like the man and want it to work out, I never want to see us be a Chelsea spaffing a manager out the door every 9 months. Yes it would be an awful place to be - not tolerating anything but consistent success in a perpetual pursuit of excellence and silverware. Lets keep our fingers crossed we never become that. Luckily it looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 If we decide Holden isn't the man. Paul Cook would of course be a good shout- maybe a bit of contractual uncertainty but he says not. IF not him, Adkins? He's an undoubted free agent and his track record is not bad- decent with young players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BCFCGav said: We have April. A new manager bounce coincided with a very kind April keeps us up. That’s a solid plan b. Until then, I’m behind plan a. So let’s assume he bumbles along scraping a few points here and there and we stay up safely (Likely scenario) You'd stick with him moving forward would you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: FWIW, and I fully expect to be in a minority, I’m Holden in. I never want to see us be a revolving door and I really want him to succeed. If we’re in trouble mid March, I’ll probably turn. I’d love the bloke to succeed, I think he’s and honest and earnest individual trying his best, but it’s not working here. He may well be a successful manager elsewhere, but best to end it now whilst he has some credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Ska Junkie said: Bull5hit or wishful thinking? Anyone but Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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