Bill Beswick

[BTRFTG]

1 hour ago, The Original OTIB said:

You can instil added belief with tools such as hypnotism. It has manifest results. You can also use better habits to create better outcomes more consistently over time (yes, drills, practice, etc.). Read about Tony Dungy in this (see link), it shows me why certain coaches can go in and transform sides quickly. I'd wager they largely eradicate the bad habits and create better ones: https://charlesduhigg.com/the-power-of-habit/

 

Dungy is an outstanding coach and analyst but if you saw his extended interview with Dallas Clark the other week you'll know his interesting take on coaching. His disclosure that he didn't bother to check whether the 'picks' had talent, he simply assumed they did from reports provided and anyway it was for their coaches to develop them, not him. His interest solely related to whether and how 'picks' would fit in with the rest of the squad. That was his specialism, building a 'team' from talent provided.

Now I'm not sure that's what City's psychologist is aiming to do. We need to focus on the talent bit first.

[The Original OTIB]

39 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Dungy is an outstanding coach and analyst but if you saw his extended interview with Dallas Clark the other week you'll know his interesting take on coaching. His disclosure that he didn't bother to check whether the 'picks' had talent, he simply assumed they did from reports provided and anyway it was for their coaches to develop them, not him. His interest solely related to whether and how 'picks' would fit in with the rest of the squad. That was his specialism, building a 'team' from talent provided.

Now I'm not sure that's what City's psychologist is aiming to do. We need to focus on the talent bit first.

All very interesting, but so is his work on teams developing better playing habits. You can implement such things if you're very talented at the elite level or at the jobbing level. We are more the latter, but that does not mean that better habits can not be identified and implemented. 

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12 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

All very interesting, but so is his work on teams developing better playing habits. You can implement such things if you're very talented at the elite level or at the jobbing level. We are more the latter, but that does not mean that better habits can not be identified and implemented. 

As an example, look at Massengo. Yes, he's above jobbing, but his habit is that he is as attracted to loose balls as a dog to another dog's ars*e. He gets praise for his work rate and dynamism because he covers 10 yards to chase said loose ball, some he wins, some he loses, a higher percentage of the latter. The problem is, that by making that run into an area far away from his starting position, he's leaving space. Thus can begin the domino effect where another player chases that space to compensate. If you're lucky, you only get two out of position. Better that Massengo's habit is restricted to loose balls within a couple of yards, anything further and his trigger needs to be, who is my closest man and what is he doing. The better players (Scholes, etc) have that picture of where players are, partly by instinct and partly through very good technique where their head is up and peripheral vision in full effect. By controlling his instinct, Massengo stays in position more and is aware of runners nearer to him. That keeps others in place also. This is key in the middle third where it often goes pear shaped.

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3 hours ago, The Original OTIB said:

As an example, look at Massengo. Yes, he's above jobbing, but his habit is that he is as attracted to loose balls as a dog to another dog's ars*e. He gets praise for his work rate and dynamism because he covers 10 yards to chase said loose ball, some he wins, some he loses, a higher percentage of the latter. The problem is, that by making that run into an area far away from his starting position, he's leaving space. Thus can begin the domino effect where another player chases that space to compensate. If you're lucky, you only get two out of position. Better that Massengo's habit is restricted to loose balls within a couple of yards, anything further and his trigger needs to be, who is my closest man and what is he doing. The better players (Scholes, etc) have that picture of where players are, partly by instinct and partly through very good technique where their head is up and peripheral vision in full effect. By controlling his instinct, Massengo stays in position more and is aware of runners nearer to him. That keeps others in place also. This is key in the middle third where it often goes pear shaped.

If we look to change Massengo's game as Johnson tried(as you say he's far from jobbing rather a real talent,) we're doomed.

Rather look at the rubbish around him in acres of space as either they're unaware of what they should be doing, avoiding trying to get involved or just plain idle. We've had plenty of those these past three years. If the likes of Bakinson put in a shift Massengo wouldn't need to play as you describe. That Bakinson never will means he has to.

[The Original OTIB]

7 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

If we look to change Massengo's game as Johnson tried(as you say he's far from jobbing rather a real talent,) we're doomed.

Rather look at the rubbish around him in acres of space as either they're unaware of what they should be doing, avoiding trying to get involved or just plain idle. We've had plenty of those these past three years. If the likes of Bakinson put in a shift Massengo wouldn't need to play as you describe. That Bakinson never will means he has to.

Change one specific aspect, not his whole game, it's in the details. You work on each player, some to a greater extent than others.