Harry Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Exeter Utd....Suburban League Played against them a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: I think Taylor Moore has probably had sufficient chances to impress and whilst I'm sure he'll go on to have a good career, I'm not convinced he is of a quality that would see him slot in to a Championship back 4 on a regular basis. That said, wasn't his preferred position midfield? As for Cundy, I'd not be too hung up on his age, wasn't Bobby Reid about 25 when he found his position and form? I think some consideration has to be given to the poorly organised and poorly led sides that TM has found himself in, through no fault of his own. We should have senior players guiding him through the game but instead it appears he is left to sort himself out. He's also been played out of position, on the left side of a 2 or a 3 when he is clearly more suited to central (in a 3) or right side (in a 2). And often playing with a makeshift full back outside him (I like Rowe, but he is limited). It's interesting you mention age, as central defenders go, both Moore and Cundy are some way off their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Option already exercised. I can't help but read the words "Option Exercised!" In the voice of John Anderson. Poor bloke, he properly had his hands full with Wolf trying to get an advantage. Gladiators Ready! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I haven’t watched him play so I’m not going to comment on his ability, but there are a few comments about his age and lack of experience in the Championship. Aiden Flint didn’t play in the Championship until he was nearly 26. He managed the step up ok and was player of the season the following year. As an aside, Tony Book didn’t play in the top flight for Manchester City until he was over 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, Harry said: Played against them a few times. I played against Exeter United in the Suburban League and used to tell people who knew nothing about the Suburban League / football in general that I was going to play Exeter. This shows how desperate I was to convince people I could actually play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, sinenomine said: I think some consideration has to be given to the poorly organised and poorly led sides that TM has found himself in, through no fault of his own. We should have senior players guiding him through the game but instead it appears he is left to sort himself out. He's also been played out of position, on the left side of a 2 or a 3 when he is clearly more suited to central (in a 3) or right side (in a 2). And often playing with a makeshift full back outside him (I like Rowe, but he is limited). It's interesting you mention age, as central defenders go, both Moore and Cundy are some way off their peak. Issue is. We have a team that on balance lacks even a modicum of height when dealing with set pieces besides our soon to be out of contract striker, and basic concentration and composure. On that balance, Cundy is ahead of Moore at the minute, simply being more in line with what we need. The latter is a decent ball playing centre back which is hens teeth rare at league one level. The issue there is that whether your a ball playing or limited defender, concentration is the name of the game at this level. Moore's biggest problem is that he's been a victim of the clubs recruitment policy, I.e. Clubs in bag approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, sinenomine said: I think some consideration has to be given to the poorly organised and poorly led sides that TM has found himself in, through no fault of his own. We should have senior players guiding him through the game but instead it appears he is left to sort himself out. He's also been played out of position, on the left side of a 2 or a 3 when he is clearly more suited to central (in a 3) or right side (in a 2). And often playing with a makeshift full back outside him (I like Rowe, but he is limited). It's interesting you mention age, as central defenders go, both Moore and Cundy are some way off their peak. ....some wanted TM as captain this year. 1 hour ago, Harry said: Played against them a few times. Me too. Played for them twice too (ringer, night games). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fuber said: Moore's biggest problem is that he's been a victim of the clubs recruitment policy, I.e. Clubs in bag approach. I think Moore's biggest problem is that he hasn't really developed as a player. Ergo, without a significant pre-season, his best opportunities for games will either be loan with view, or the odd cup game if we are doing well in the league. Can't fault his attitude or anything line that, just might not quite be good enough. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: ....some wanted TM as captain this year. Me too. Played for them twice too (ringer, night games). I'm now thinking about The Night Caller telly show that was on ITV late at night (if Cell Block H wasn't on). Some shocking US talk-radio crime thing. Bloodly John Anderson and now this. Have a word with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I don't really have any issue with Moore technically, and his attitude is good, it's more mental attributes that he's lacked. Concentration, decision making... that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, mozo said: I don't really have any issue with Moore technically, and his attitude is good, it's more mental attributes that he's lacked. Concentration, decision making... that sort of thing. Which are pretty significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: I think Moore's biggest problem is that he hasn't really developed as a player. Ergo, without a significant pre-season, his best opportunities for games will either be loan with view, or the odd cup game if we are doing well in the league. Can't fault his attitude or anything line that, just might not quite be good enough. Hope I'm wrong. Agree, other issue for me is he simply doesn’t appear tough enough. Been done by both clever movement too, (not only by Pukki either, who is clearly a class above) but also by forwards being too strong for him. That’s not a good combination, if you are strong but slow you hope your partner has the pace to bail you out, or vice versa, but he appears to have problems against both types. Think he’s a League One player, in truth. Under contract for next season so will be sticking around if we can’t move him on, but would be competing with Cundy for 4th choice if as I expect, we bring someone in to challenge Kalas & Vyner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Which are pretty significant. Massive at this level and who knows maybe Cundy is stronger in that department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Cundy absolutely loves a header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Exeter united got bigger crowds than exeter city in the 1980s. They used to kick off for years, at 1pm, on the pitch on the park, nearest ashton road. Used to watch them for years, and they had a shirt like wolves then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Oh Louie louie said: Exeter united got bigger crowds than exeter city in the 1980s. They used to kick off for years, at 1pm, on the pitch on the park, nearest ashton road. Used to watch them for years, and they had a shirt like wolves then. I remember watching them many times in the 80's. I must admit many times the 1pm game was better than the 3pm game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, JonDolman said: Yeah I would not want to give up on Moore. He's improved and had good games as well as bad. It would be great if we could use him in a different position so he adds more to the squad than just being a back up centre back. But just looking at him as a centre back, he has had good games. Build a team that play on the front foot and it will get the best out of him imo. I think Moore needs to learn the dark arts and be a bit nastier. Maybe the time out of the first team will draw out his agression and determination not to get beaten. He is the image of City DNA , a nice lad , intelligent and media friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: Exeter united got bigger crowds than exeter city in the 1980s. They used to kick off for years, at 1pm, on the pitch on the park, nearest ashton road. Used to watch them for years, and they had a shirt like wolves then. Yep, always Gold and Black when I played against them. I don’t know if they are still going, or whether they are part of Ashton Utd these days, which might be linked to Backwell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 21 hours ago, mozo said: Yeah I reckon he'll be with 'the group' in pre-season to show his worth. It'll be interesting to see how Taylor Moore' future pans out by comparison. They're similar ages but with very different attributes and different paths. He’s done exactly what the club has expected of him. Excelled in L2 so moved him to L1 and again rose to the challenge and has been impressive by all accounts The most obvious step would be to start involving him in the first team squad next season and see if his progression continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Championship teams have to be able to clear their box from crosses and set pieces. You need an imposing central defender for that. Our lack of height at the back has hammered us this season. It breeds nervousness and affects other parts of our play. Cundy’s height, and loan experience, must bring him into the frame. But, against some Championship teams, you also have to be able to defend on the ground. That will be his challenge. it does make you wonder though if Cundy would have been far more use than Mariappa this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, INCRED said: He’s done exactly what the club has expected of him. Excelled in L2 so moved him to L1 and again rose to the challenge and has been impressive by all accounts The most obvious step would be to start involving him in the first team squad next season and see if his progression continues 100%. He should be given a proper chance. Him and Moore 4th/5th choices to start with means we'll have depth plus the potential to sign 1 player in addition to Kalas and Vyner (or maybe one extra if one of these leaves). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, INCRED said: He’s done exactly what the club has expected of him. Excelled in L2 so moved him to L1 and again rose to the challenge and has been impressive by all accounts The most obvious step would be to start involving him in the first team squad next season and see if his progression continues Or do a Vyner and loan him to a Championship side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: Yep, always Gold and Black when I played against them. I don’t know if they are still going, or whether they are part of Ashton Utd these days, which might be linked to Backwell? Yeah, I was pretty sure they merged with Ashton Utd a number of years back (when I was even still playing!!!), and then later Ashton & Backwell merged too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 We so desperately need a commanding centre-half for Kalas to play alongside, with nothing to lose why not give Cundy a run out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, old_eastender said: We so desperately need a commanding centre-half for Kalas to play alongside, with nothing to lose why not give Cundy a run out? Cuz he's at Gillingham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted April 25, 2021 Report Share Posted April 25, 2021 Happy to have him as cover next season but we need to try sign someone who can actually defend first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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