Red-Robbo Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, 1960maaan said: IMO he was never going to get a decent chance. We had Johnson doing his impression of a 5 year old at Christmas, always more interested in the next present . Szmodics had by all reports, had a good pre season. Then LJ gets his new toy in Palmer, who we paid more for and got a run. Not sure what he was supposed to do without getting a game or two. played a total of 107 minutes over 3/4 games, 1 start. Just had a quick look, in and out of the squad, on the bench one week and not the next. I think that speaks more about Johnsons fickle team choices than anything that Szmodics did. Whether he was good enough then or now is questionable, it just grates a little that our recruitment would spot and sign a player, only to sign another that clearly played in the same sort of position and would play ahead of him, senseless , and yet very Lee Johnson. Well, he is Mo Eisa the 2nd. Eisa also scored 16 goals for Peterborough in the season we released him. What we don't know is how Szmodics performed off pitch. Maybe Johnson and Holden didn't really think he was all that there. Should we have kept him? Dunno. He didn't really show much promise in his 4 appearances. It's a steep learning curve and even having one player who is off the pace will knacker teams. My sole point is that assuming someone who has a decent scoring record in L1 will also have a decent scoring record in the Championship is a leap of faith. The level is very different. Szmodics scored a goal every three games for Colchester. But that was in L2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: First home game next season? Guaranteed it'll be the Posh and a hat trick for you know who! We signing JCH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: IMO he was never going to get a decent chance. We had Johnson doing his impression of a 5 year old at Christmas, always more interested in the next present . Szmodics had by all reports, had a good pre season. Then LJ gets his new toy in Palmer, who we paid more for and got a run. Not sure what he was supposed to do without getting a game or two. played a total of 107 minutes over 3/4 games, 1 start. Just had a quick look, in and out of the squad, on the bench one week and not the next. I think that speaks more about Johnsons fickle team choices than anything that Szmodics did. Whether he was good enough then or now is questionable, it just grates a little that our recruitment would spot and sign a player, only to sign another that clearly played in the same sort of position and would play ahead of him, senseless , and yet very Lee Johnson. Szmodics wasn’t standing out in u23’s games when I watched them, if he’s not standing out at that standard why would he get more first team minutes? I think we were too quick to sell him but loaning to league 1 was the right move and should have been integrated this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lrrr said: I think we were too quick to sell him but loaning to league 1 was the right move and should have been integrated this season Maybe. I will be interested to see whether Walsh signs a new contract. Having a good season in L1 might leave a player feeling they'd be better off elsewhere. That has been my feeling with LW since his Coventry loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Johnson was crap but so was Szmodics. Limited time on the pitch admittedly, but when he was playing he was a second off the pace & in no mans land the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Szmodics wasn’t standing out in u23’s games when I watched them, if he’s not standing out at that standard why would he get more first team minutes? I think we were too quick to sell him but loaning to league 1 was the right move and should have been integrated this season Made the bench fairly often, must have been in Johnsons plans to some extent, plus I'm not sure U23's is a good judging point for a few reasons .Not too sure the players that have turned out this year while getting fit would have looked like World beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, cidered abroad said: First home game next season? Guaranteed it'll be the Posh and a hat trick for you know who! Jamie Richard Vardy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 LJ didnt hardly play Eisa Sczmodics Adelakun Engval etc etc etc. But he was responsible for bringing them in, unless you believe Mark Ashton did it, without consent. I don’t think Engval is making to many waves (someone who cares please let me know). Eisa and Sczmodics now have a promotion and Adelakun, who knows what’s ahead for him....I guess Nige has seen the vids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 Wonder if Tomlin is eyeing up another signing on fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 To be fair I wouldn't be surprised to see Kasey Palmer get good numbers in league one. To be fair I wouldn't be surprised to see Kasey Palmer get good numbers in league one. To be fair I wouldn't be surprised to see Kasey Palmer get good numbers in league one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 4, 2021 Report Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Another pointless Johnson signing. Buy him, give him a pre season then run after Palmer when Swansea showed interest. Felt sorry for him here. Footage of LJ at the time. He had to have his full quota of twenty subs getting splinters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-reject-three-bids-for-sammie-szmodics-from-a-championship-club-3777192 Sell on Clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-reject-three-bids-for-sammie-szmodics-from-a-championship-club-3777192 Sell on Clause? Undoubtedly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-reject-three-bids-for-sammie-szmodics-from-a-championship-club-3777192 Sell on Clause? I like the sound of the “tramsfer window” that Barry Fry refers to! It would probably work best within Manchester though … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 It's been mentioned before, but worth saying again (as in New York, New York so good they named it twice) - it was crazy to sign Kasey Palmer after signing Szmodics. Without Palmer Szmodics might have had a chance with City 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, pongo88 said: It's been mentioned before, but worth saying again (as in New York, New York so good they named it twice) - it was crazy to sign Kasey Palmer after signing Szmodics. Without Palmer Szmodics might have had a chance with City I still find the signing of Palmer the most baffling since Terry Cooper signed Jimmy Harvey in 1987, played him three times and immediately sold him again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I still find the signing of Palmer the most baffling since Terry Cooper signed Jimmy Harvey in 1987, played him three times and immediately sold him again. Surely you can return a product that is faulty for up to a month under the Sale & Goods Act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlesh*t Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: It's been mentioned before, but worth saying again (as in New York, New York so good they named it twice) - it was crazy to sign Kasey Palmer after signing Szmodics. Without Palmer Szmodics might have had a chance with City I don't get this. If szmodics wasn't good enough to dislodge Palmer from the team and then Palmer wasn't good enough for the team why would szmodics then be good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Littlesh*t said: I don't get this. If szmodics wasn't good enough to dislodge Palmer from the team and then Palmer wasn't good enough for the team why would szmodics then be good enough. I agree that it does seem strange. I suppose it’s all about opinions. My logic is that only one of Palmer or Szmodics could play in the team at any time, as they had a similar playing style. During the season Szmodics was at City he only played 3 league matches whilst Palmer played 25. Szmodics wasn’t brilliant, but he was young, had come from Colchester, and needed time to adapt to Championship football. He didn’t get time. Palmer, on the other hand played 25 matches. The first 5 or 6 when Benik Afobe was in the team Palmer played well but after Afobe was injured he was average to poor. I think LJ stuck with Palmer because he was the big money signing and he was convinced he could turn him into a good player. If Palmer hadn’t been there Szmodics would probably have had more starts and may have developed into the good player he is now. At the end of the season one of them had to go. It had to be Szmodics as City wouldn’t have been able to sell Palmer and recover the fee paid. (And probably because Lee Johnson and Mark Ashton didn’t want to admit they had made a mistake. As I said, this is just an option and hindsight is a good thing 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Littlesh*t said: I don't get this. If szmodics wasn't good enough to dislodge Palmer from the team and then Palmer wasn't good enough for the team why would szmodics then be good enough. Probably end up at Coventry with Palmer again !!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 17 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I still find the signing of Palmer the most baffling since Terry Cooper signed Jimmy Harvey in 1987, played him three times and immediately sold him again. Beginning of the end for poor TC around then. Tony Caldwell signed the same year and only 17 games. A few months in to '88 and TC was gone. A year or so later JJ brings in Gary Shelton in midfield and Bob Taylor up front. Bit more like it. Someone should start a football programme: Recruitment, Recruitment, Recruitment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 23 hours ago, pongo88 said: At the end of the season one of them had to go. It had to be Szmodics as City wouldn’t have been able to sell Palmer and recover the fee paid. (And probably because Lee Johnson and Mark Ashton didn’t want to admit they had made a mistake. As I said, this is just an option and hindsight is a good thing Exactly the same as the Pato v Palmer dilemma at the end of the season before last. Pato had to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 16:39, Red-Robbo said: Surely you can return a product that is faulty for up to a month under the Sale & Goods Act. That's why we should in future only buy players via the internet. No quibble return policy within 14 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Norn Iron said: That's why we should in future only buy players via the internet. No quibble return policy within 14 days. And when the box arrives you think it contains a 6`5` CB but when you take out all the packaging it`s actually a 5`2` winger.......... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: And when the box arrives you think it contains a 6`5` CB but when you take out all the packaging it`s actually a 5`2` winger.......... and is left with a neighbour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, redysteadygo said: and is left with a neighbour. Or in your wheelie bin. On bin day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: And when the box arrives you think it contains a 6`5` CB but when you take out all the packaging it`s actually a 5`2` winger.......... Plus the goods are damaged, requiring 6 months on the treatment table and another 6 months 'on the grass' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 09:41, Bristol Oil Services said: Beginning of the end for poor TC around then. Tony Caldwell signed the same year and only 17 games. A few months in to '88 and TC was gone. A year or so later JJ brings in Gary Shelton in midfield and Bob Taylor up front. Bit more like it. Someone should start a football programme: Recruitment, Recruitment, Recruitment. Also the case that before JJ brought in Super Bob & Shelts, he signed Scott McGarvey from Grimsby (with Tony Caldwell going the other way) & Gary Stanley. That definitely wasn’t a “bit more like it”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Set to sign for blackburn for 2.5mill. We likely due a reasonable sell on fee here? 10-20% of 1.7mill? Every little helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, BLRed said: Set to sign for blackburn for 2.5mill. We likely due a reasonable sell on fee here? 10-20% of 1.7mill? Every little helps I wonder if the sell on filters down to Colchester still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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