Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[Lrrr]

Apparently Rovers had 2 hours to get what they needed to done so 

a) why wasn’t everything in place to assume it would be a yes to save time 

or 

b) if you’re running close to the deadline and as Barton put it ‘seconds out’ then why not submit an extension form to the EFL/FA that allows you a little extra time so long an agreement is in place 

[Son of Fred]

15 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

I heard that they had a retired office admin  who just wanted to keep there hand in do the paperwork but she had arthritis!

Good old Arthur 

[bert tann]

6 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Apparently Rovers had 2 hours to get what they needed to done so 

a) why wasn’t everything in place to assume it would be a yes to save time 

or 

b) if you’re running close to the deadline and as Barton put it ‘seconds out’ then why not submit an extension form to the EFL/FA that allows you a little extra time so long an agreement is in place 

Because the lady acting as Rovers club secretary has no experience in football.

She runs her own business providing HR services to small companies in Bristol, Somerset, Gloucestershire and S Wales.

https://www.louisesmith-hr.com/

 

[redsquirrel]

1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

I think they might have a song to replace the long suffering Irene.

(Don't play this in front of the kids)

 

 

more like julie the schooly by the macc lads. have to google the lyrics for yourself,id get banned  putting that on here

[glynriley]

Taking tinpot to a whole new level 

[BCFC11]

Trying to build a stand yet they’ve built a bus stop

OTIB

[Bristol Rob]

28 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

more like julie the schooly by the macc lads. have to google the lyrics for yourself,id get banned  putting that on here

More than familiar, like @CyderInACan went to see them last time they toured!

[Loosey Boy]

39 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Apparently Rovers had 2 hours to get what they needed to done so 

a) why wasn’t everything in place to assume it would be a yes to save time 

or 

b) if you’re running close to the deadline and as Barton put it ‘seconds out’ then why not submit an extension form to the EFL/FA that allows you a little extra time so long an agreement is in place 

Judging by that interview with Darren Ferguson, they had more than enough time to sort the deal - sounds like a bit of a game has been played by Wally!

Making it look to the Gas ‘Eds that they were prepared to invest nigh on a million quid (and a big, three year contract for JCB), only for it to not then happen.

What an unprofessional outfit they’ve proven to be yet again

[Bristol Rob]

38 minutes ago, bert tann said:

Because the lady acting as Rovers club secretary has no experience in football.

She runs her own business providing HR services to small companies in Bristol, Somerset, Gloucestershire and S Wales.

https://www.louisesmith-hr.com/

 

Wonder if they are as qualified as the physio the Fewers had who wasn't qualified to go on the pitch.

[Riaz]

13 hours ago, Selred said:

Ah didn’t realise Famara won the Championship golden boot twice when we signed him! 

Kalas as I later clarified could be agreed as a top proven championship player. Still was 4 years ago. 

Point is, We have spent millions upon millions. Probably over 20m in the last 5 years (a guess)

Rovers spend 800k once and suddenly they are ambitious and we’re not

[Bristol Rob]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Wonder if they are as qualified as the physio the Fewers had who wasn't qualified to go on the pitch.

To quote my own post is slightly unnecessary, but wasn't it the dog botherer who sacked the physio and then found out they needed one to be able to fulfil fixtures? Wasn't it around 2015/2016.

[Rudolf Hucker]

7 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Point is, We have spent millions upon millions. Probably over 20m in the last 5 years (a guess)

Rovers spend 800k once and suddenly they are ambitious and we’re not

Uh no they don’t! 

[Maesknoll Red]

55 minutes ago, bert tann said:

Because the lady acting as Rovers club secretary has no experience in football.

She runs her own business providing HR services to small companies in Bristol, Somerset, Gloucestershire and S Wales.

https://www.louisesmith-hr.com/

 

According to companies house these people are the company secretary.  But it looks like Louise Smith has/is fulfilling several roles at the sags.

 

[BS13 Robin]

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bristolrovers.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2023%2Fseptember%2Fclub-statement-JCH%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR2ZPr-q_OYDg4DwSVrG5qMNP-tX0f9YXNxLrHjJ9qKOFazFJNoO3KPC-dI&h=AT1qjsjqxwkLApxQ7A_Ub4KpES9D-ukU7RSn_FSMJ9zArHrUmNS8cLqsRedvXHYR2neTTEI4Fe3oA67C5JHsLrjWSFKsQehejZvdU3UgGU2-oXHdZs2YLNpN1Z27XbPYHQ&__tn__=%2CmH-R&c[0]=AT2npmPlKmkWyhV97KbiCVGgFdQ68xV32HcXTsKwt6oTZ7BI3r1mWExiIwMAYselX0loxL3oPNgBJlha7B2PJpQaSbQIEaquh5pTmWFcTMJjBCRekBfQEeQWPqCw1ly6BzmJpjXSUqkOn1ulYaPE2-TSNChOym5SM7w42Z3JUcZ47uaWyDNcnXEPEeQ3-9hmCkG_q7uW7qE26Sa87g  Some of the comments on here are just typical Gas,couldnt help laughing mind!!

[alexukhc]

So I got a mate, I liked her before she took the role on she has now tbh I didn’t think she even liked football but she works for the sags, anyway let’s just say the police are involved cuz she has been abused very badly by the fans

Family club 

Edited September 2, 2023 by alexukhc

[Midlands Robin]

Darren Ferguson's comments for those who haven't or can't be arsed to, listen to the interview:

“It was a very hectic last day but up until 10 to 11, it was quite smooth. Jonno travelled with the team in the morning, we had the team meeting about Portsmouth and he would have been in the team, he played very well last week.

“At about five o’clock the chairman told me there might be a chance that he’ll get permission to talk to Bristol and at quarter to six, I went down to see him and we agreed it was the right time for him to move on. He was getting a three-year deal at 29, which is very good, and a large part of his family is down there.

“He got in the car, Liz (Elsom, Head of Football Operations) sent over the agreement at 8:30, which they agreed with and told us so at nine o’clock. At ten to 11, we were told he was still not registered. You can put a request in to get another 15 minutes and they didn’t do that until 20 past 11. Unbelievable, we were just like ‘what?’

“They just failed to get him registerd, nothing else can be done. That’s the danger if you leave it until the last minute to try and sign someone rather than doing it three or four days previous. That’s the risk they run and they’ve made a mistake. We did everything we could.”

[Midlands Robin]

Looking at the statement above, if we imagine that JCH left Portsmouth to travel up to Bristol at around 6pm, he would have got there for around 8 to 8:30. It's roughly a 2 hour journey.

That fits nicely with the time line. The Posh send over the paperwork at 8:30 and the Sags agree to the deal at 9pm.

According to a statement from the circus, there were some changes to the paperwork that held things up. This clearly can't be the case if Ferguson is telling the truth as the Sags agreed the paperwork at 9pm. The only changes after that point must have come from JCH or his agent if there were any. Either way, 2 hours should have been more than enought time to sort all of that out and send the registration paperwork in to the FA.

As Ferguson said, it is possible to send in an agreement form and get a short extension to enable the paperwork to be finalised after 11pm. This cearly wasn't done.

So, there are a few questions that need asking:

1) Why, if he wanted the move, didn't JCH press the Sags to get the deal done after the two clubs had agreed terms at 9pm?

2) If Ferguson is correct and the agreement between the clubs took place at 9pm then who was responsible for the paperwork changes after that point?

3) Why didn't the Sags send in the relevant paperwork to extend the deadline?

 

Edited September 2, 2023 by Midlands Robin

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Midlands Robin said:

Looking at the statement above, if we imagine that JCH left Portsmouth to travel up to Bristol at around 6pm, he would have got there for around 8 to 8:30. It's around a 2 hour journey.

That fits nicely with the time line. The Posh send over the paperwork at 8:30 and the Sags agree to the deal at 9pm.

According to a statement from the circus, there were some changes to the paperwork that held things up. This clearly can't be the case if Ferguson is telling the truth as the Sags agreed the paperwork at 9pm. The only changes after that point must have come from JCH or his agent if there were any. Either way, 2 hours should have been more than enought time to sort all of that out and send the registration paperwork in to the FA.

As Ferguson said, it is possible to send in an agreement form and get a short extension to enable the paperwork to be finalised after 11pm. This cearly wasn't done.

So, there are a few questions that need asking:

1) Why, if he wanted the move, didn't JCH press the Sags to get the deal done after the two clubs had agreed terms at 9pm?

2) If Ferguson is correct and the agreement between the clubs took place at 9pm then who was responsible for the paperwork changes after that point?

3) Why didn't the Sags send in the relevant paperwork to extend the deadline?

 

4) Why did nobody notice the Ted putting the clock forward by 4 seconds?

[chinapig]

24 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

Darren Ferguson's comments for those who haven't or can't be arsed to, listen to the interview:

“It was a very hectic last day but up until 10 to 11, it was quite smooth. Jonno travelled with the team in the morning, we had the team meeting about Portsmouth and he would have been in the team, he played very well last week.

“At about five o’clock the chairman told me there might be a chance that he’ll get permission to talk to Bristol and at quarter to six, I went down to see him and we agreed it was the right time for him to move on. He was getting a three-year deal at 29, which is very good, and a large part of his family is down there.

“He got in the car, Liz (Elsom, Head of Football Operations) sent over the agreement at 8:30, which they agreed with and told us so at nine o’clock. At ten to 11, we were told he was still not registered. You can put a request in to get another 15 minutes and they didn’t do that until 20 past 11. Unbelievable, we were just like ‘what?’

“They just failed to get him registerd, nothing else can be done. That’s the danger if you leave it until the last minute to try and sign someone rather than doing it three or four days previous. That’s the risk they run and they’ve made a mistake. We did everything we could.”

Let me get this right. You can request a 15 minute extension of the 11pm deadline but they didn't do so until 11.20? Was Wael's nice watch not working?

[Rudolf Hucker]

23 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

4) Why did nobody notice the Ted putting the clock forward by 4 seconds?

Wouldn’t he have had to put it back? I did. 

[CyderInACan]

2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

More than familiar, like @CyderInACan went to see them last time they toured!

You can’t take her . . . No I can’t do it . . . 

[Midlands Robin]

1 hour ago, chinapig said:

Let me get this right. You can request a 15 minute extension of the 11pm deadline but they didn't do so until 11.20? Was Wael's nice watch not working?

From the EFL Website:

What is a quick application? 

If a club is in a ‘Full Application’ at 22:30:00, they will receive a warning that states the system will open a ‘Quick Application’ at 22:45:00, where only certain fields need to be completed.  

In those last 15 minutes of the Transfer Window, EFL systems allow Clubs to submit the necessary registration form without completing the full application process. Where they do this, the Clubs then have a further 15 minutes to then complete the full application process. This avoids Clubs missing the deadline in circumstances where they have agreed and signed all necessary documents with another Club and the player before 11pm, but still need time to complete the full application.   

[sglosbcfc]

Thanks Agent Wael, but don't do anything quite as outlandish as this again for some time or your cover is certain to be blown -

 

 

[fgrsimon]

4 hours ago, Boring Sag said:

No. I believe you're confusing Jonson Clarke-Harris for Stefan Payne. Clarke-Harris and Rovers seem to have had a pretty good relationship since he joined.

Apart from the season he turned up about 3 stone overweight of course...

[Midlands Robin]

Now that the transfer window has closed, let’s just have a quick review of how the summer went up there in Horfield.

1) Joey Barton received a 3 match touchline ban and a fine for abusing match officials. The sags had an appeal rejected.

2) They sign a player who had been released by Exeter after pleading guilty to assaulting a woman and after signing went on to be found guilty of a second charge of assaulting a woman.

3) They take down their temporary stand and start constructing a replacement without having applied for planning permission. Work on the stand is ordered to be halted while a review takes place. As a result of the delay, they no longer have a capacity that is compliant with EFL rules and have no provision for disabled away supporters.

4) The work on the south stand takes out the "championship ready" pitch sprinkler system, a fact that their manager goes on to blame for another home defeat.

5) On a positive note, a Kuwaiti businessman buys a controlling stake in the club and the sags debt to Duane sports is capitalised in shares however, no one knows who this businessman is and his wealth, financial ability to back the club and plans for the future remain obscure.

6)  Their new home shirt features a sleeve sponsor in the form of a hotel company located in the middle of Bristol. Now for the whole season they will run out at home with the name of their beloved rivals on their shirts. Each home shirt is adorned with the words "Bristol City" Centre. 

7) Their manager refuses to talk to the Bristol Evening Post claiming they have an anti Rovers bias but it just so happens that a few weeks earlier he created a subscription area on his Twitter account and urged fans to sign up to receive exclusive Rovers news and content. 

8. In order to try and fix some of the problems caused by point 3 they put up yet another temporary stand to enable at least a few hundred away fans to have a seat under some sort of cover.

9). On transfer deadline day they agree a club record fee for Jonson Clarke-Harris only to see the entire deal collapse due to their inability to file the required paperwork on time.

To be honest, most clubs wouldn't see that much shit in a decade, but this happened over a period of 3 months.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Midlands Robin

[Gert Mare]

THE GIFT

Edited September 3, 2023 by Gert Mare

[redsquirrel]

9 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

More than familiar, like @CyderInACan went to see them last time they toured!

wow, that was a fun night out

[Port Said Red]

9 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said:

According to companies house these people are the company secretary.  But it looks like Louise Smith has/is fulfilling several roles at the sags.

 

Sorry is this related to something earlier in the thread?

If you are thinking these people are responsible for the deadline day debacle, that's not correct.

My wife worked for a firm until she retired, supplying Company Secretary services, she had up to 900 Companies in her portfolio at any one time. She had nothing to do with the day to day running of them, she just ensured that they complied with all the legal requirements around changes to Directorships, filings at Companies House, etc. 

Having your own CSA is expensive, which is why many Companies, big and small outsource it. Lots of people don't realise this however, hence the fact they would often get bailiffs at their offices demanding payments.

I don't know anyone at Taylor Wessing, but I am sure they would like to be distanced from any blame in this case.

[WarksRobin]

8 hours ago, Midlands Robin said:

Looking at the statement above, if we imagine that JCH left Portsmouth to travel up to Bristol at around 6pm, he would have got there for around 8 to 8:30. It's roughly a 2 hour journey.

That fits nicely with the time line. The Posh send over the paperwork at 8:30 and the Sags agree to the deal at 9pm.

According to a statement from the circus, there were some changes to the paperwork that held things up. This clearly can't be the case if Ferguson is telling the truth as the Sags agreed the paperwork at 9pm. The only changes after that point must have come from JCH or his agent if there were any. Either way, 2 hours should have been more than enought time to sort all of that out and send the registration paperwork in to the FA.

As Ferguson said, it is possible to send in an agreement form and get a short extension to enable the paperwork to be finalised after 11pm. This cearly wasn't done.

So, there are a few questions that need asking:

1) Why, if he wanted the move, didn't JCH press the Sags to get the deal done after the two clubs had agreed terms at 9pm?

2) If Ferguson is correct and the agreement between the clubs took place at 9pm then who was responsible for the paperwork changes after that point?

3) Why didn't the Sags send in the relevant paperwork to extend the deadline?

 

The only person who knew how to operate a fax machine was unreachable

[1960maaan]

It's not fair looking to put blame on gAss staff, it's not like this happens a lot.
Yeah, planning thing , but that wasn't their fault and this is wholly down to the EFL refusing the changes to the contract at the last minute. Now I obviously don't know what the changes were, but if you have been working on something for weeks, why leave it until the last minute to change things with a deadline looming ?

Rovers did address their supporters though with a statement ; It read:

"This morning an EFL representative confirmed that our contract application for Jonson Clarke-Harris was rejected.

"The club had worked throughout the day to agree terms with Peterborough, the player and his representatives, however, late changes to the deal prevented it being completed.

"The outcome is a disappointing one for all involved however, everything possible was done to finalise the agreement and register the required documents with the EFL ahead of the deadline."

If it was us, we would be fuming on here.
Joey , quoted on Bristol Live ( which they probably got from his Twitter feed) ;

after being asked about a potential January return for Clarke-Harris, who's in the final 12 months of his contract at London Road: "I don't know. January is a long way away. I might not even be sitting in the seat. You've got to take care of business every single week."

Planning an escape ??