cityexile Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedRock said: That was an ‘ok’ performance by England, but still too cautious for me. Several first-time forward or ‘around the corner’ balls were on, but we always play the simple ball backwards. That’s alright but sometimes, just sometimes, you need to gamble the high risk ball and break the lines when in possession around the half way line. Not much happening in the centre of the penalty box either, and bleeding hell Sterling when you’re having an off -game at least look interested. The other nine outfield players were busting a gut, Sterling looked like he was playing a charity match. OK is about right. Was only the last ten I thought we started to tire and their fresh legs made the difference. Lost count the times we had the ball wide on our left and failed to get the ball in the box, and other than ‘that moment’ thought Kane and Sterling were both not great. Decent game overall and four points at Hungary and Poland pretty much job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Sadly the complaints about not crossing the ball into the box, much too often Kane isolated in there or more often than not, no-one in the box at all. That's more frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Like watching City of old..............poor use of substitutes, and very average game management. Southgate still has stuff to learn IMHO. Also too much F.....ing around (Sterling?) instead of crossing the ball into the box I think we'd all cream our pants if city played anywhere near the kind of football this England team do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_V1 Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: I think we'd all cream our pants if city played anywhere near the kind of football this England team do Have to disagree there. possession for possessions sake and continually failing to play a direct pass and just overplaying till you end up back at the keeper? Prefer actual end product to clueless faffing around myself but each to their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Felt as if there were too many egos from the England side tonight. Strutting around the park without any real conviction, dropping to the floor expecting fouls etc. Poland were up for a fight don’t get me wrong, but just get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 We’re obviously a very good side now . However , the amount of times we overplayed down the left hand side tonight. I know we’re trying to open them up but could of chucked a blanket over shaw, grealish & mount at times . Too easy to defend against . Didn’t move the ball quick enough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 I watched the Wales game, they just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. They did create chances but not too many decent ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I watched the Wales game, they just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. They did create chances but not too many decent ones. Shame . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Yes it's poor because England have the superior players to Poland. England should be winning the game. I think England managed the game at 1-0 very poorly. Would be silly if they're happy enough with a point because of it being in a hostile atmosphere. These players are used to that. The players haven’t played in such a hostile atmosphere in a good while. It’s not a poor result at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 Didn’t watch the game but just read that we didn’t make any subs, it goes without saying that when 1-0 up you make changes in the last few minutes just to slow the game down and quieten the crowd, you’d expect that even at non-league level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 57 minutes ago, Gazred said: Used the grey theme for years, much easier on the eye. I have just discovered the Dark Theme which looks so much easier to read on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I don't think atmosphere really matters to top elite players that have experienced all that so many times over their careers. England took the lead and should have saw the game out a lot better than they did. Disagree again. When was the last time England played in such a hostile environment against a credible team? I do think Southgate should have brought on subs but generally i thought we were on top of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 It's a good point thought we were pretty comfortable in the game. We should have made some subs though Phillips for one looked shattered. Sterling was very frustrating the amount of times he just needed to put the ball in instead of trying to beat the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: The players haven’t played in such a hostile atmosphere in a good while. It’s not a poor result at all. Hungary was pretty hostile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I watched the Wales game, they just lacked that bit of quality in the final third. They did create chances but not too many decent ones. Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: They play in hostile atmosphere's for their clubs. In big European nights or premier League grounds. Don't think it would bother them in the slightest. So many of them would not have managed to get to champions League or Europa League finals if they cant perform to high levels in a hostile atmosphere. The main thing imo is it comes down to not using those subs. Almost all managers would make changes in that situation. Not sure why Southgate didn't make any. Yes I tend to agree. Last 5 minutes few subs for the tired legs , break any Poland flow up and slow the game down. England did a job on a hostile ground against a rough handed Poland side with a bloody poor ref . And we will win the group any way. And likely win the next works cup finals. So all good in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Why To watch Joe Morrell in the main. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: Put a decent cross into the box and you score. Try explaining that to Southgate. So many chances to cross ignored for an extra pass. Must be orders surely. Very frustrating to see possession wasted around the box by trying to be Spain - which we aren't. Relies on quality though both in cross and converting it, crosses being the least efficient method of scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Andrew_V1 said: Have to disagree there. possession for possessions sake and continually failing to play a direct pass and just overplaying till you end up back at the keeper? Prefer actual end product to clueless faffing around myself but each to their own In the last 3 England games the score is 9-1. We have end product and concede very little, its a recipe for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, BanburyRed said: Sadly the complaints about not crossing the ball into the box, much too often Kane isolated in there or more often than not, no-one in the box at all. That's more frustrating. Yep. Not quite sure what our game plan was in the box tbh. At least one of the three of the central midfield - Mount, Phillips or Rice - needed to be inside the box to support an isolated Kane. Mount was often supporting Grealish on the wing with Shaw also out there! While there were some neat moves, very little of substance was produced. Often it looked like a rugby wing formation out there! Our threat was predominantly from the left, so when the ball was out there Sterling should have moved into a more central position to give an attacking three inside the box. He seemed to be in a day-dream though throughout the 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 I thought Mount was pretty anonymous, Sterling scared to deliver a cross, although quite a few times there was no-one in the box, Grealish needs to become a man and if he dribbles round someone to carry on and not just stop and cry. The one time we took a shot, Kane banged it in, wish they would do that a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 Ok normal service is resumed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 hours ago, JonDolman said: I don't think atmosphere really matters to top elite players that have experienced all that so many times over their careers. England took the lead and should have saw the game out a lot better than they did. Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a poor result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: The players haven’t played in such a hostile atmosphere in a good while. It’s not a poor result at all. Hostile my ass. Did you see the amount of women and kids in the crowd? One women was even reading her little one a bedtime story! To use that as an excuse shows a whole lack of football understanding Poland 15-20 years ago would have been very different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: Disagree again. When was the last time England played in such a hostile environment against a credible team? I do think Southgate should have brought on subs but generally i thought we were on top of the game Errr Scotland at wembley when our fans were outnumbered? That'll be a whole 3 months ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: To watch Joe Morrell in the main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a poor result. Think you are talking about 1-1 away to Poland not being a poor result and he is talking about it in the context of the game. Both can be true and probably are. We should win that game really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, frenchred said: Hostile my ass. Did you see the amount of women and kids in the crowd? One women was even reading her little one a bedtime story! To use that as an excuse shows a whole lack of football understanding Poland 15-20 years ago would have been very different! No need to be condescending. None of us were there so cannot judge the atmosphere very well. Certainly not well enough for high horse comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, frenchred said: Hostile my ass. Did you see the amount of women and kids in the crowd? One women was even reading her little one a bedtime story! To use that as an excuse shows a whole lack of football understanding Football understanding? Since when has an away draw been deemed anything but a decent enough result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: Football understanding? Since when has an away draw been deemed anything but a decent enough result? I never mentioned the result! It would be a good result against a good team, Poland are not a good team and Southgate ballsed up with no subs. Should have comfortably held on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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