exAtyeoMax Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59023242 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 If ever a club needed a new ground… I’ve never heard anyone have a good word to say about Loftus Rd, QPR fan or visitor. Even if it is out of necessity I think moving out of the borough would be a bad move for them, all of London is not their catchment area and the club would risk losing its identity. It wasn’t all that long ago that QPR were able to hold their own with the bigger London clubs - if memory serves they were the highest-placed team based in the capital at the conclusion of the inaugural Premier League season. Now look at them - the fourth best team in West London arguably! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I’m kinda with Hammersmith and Fulham council on this one, land values in west London are high and they’re effectively asking for free or heavily subsidised land when they were allegedly owned by some of the richest people in the country. Seems a very rovers thing to do 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, walnutroof said: I’m kinda with Hammersmith and Fulham council on this one, land values in west London are high and they’re effectively asking for free or heavily subsidised land when they were allegedly owned by some of the richest people in the country. Seems a very rovers thing to do Don't have any problem with Russian Oligarchs laundering their money through London and other UK property though apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, walnutroof said: I’m kinda with Hammersmith and Fulham council on this one, land values in west London are high and they’re effectively asking for free or heavily subsidised land when they were allegedly owned by some of the richest people in the country. Seems a very rovers thing to do They’re a very Rovers club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebounder Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, WessexPest said: If ever a club needed a new ground… I’ve never heard anyone have a good word to say about Loftus Rd, QPR fan or visitor. Even if it is out of necessity I think moving out of the borough would be a bad move for them, all of London is not their catchment area and the club would risk losing its identity. It wasn’t all that long ago that QPR were able to hold their own with the bigger London clubs - if memory serves they were the highest-placed team based in the capital at the conclusion of the inaugural Premier League season. Now look at them - the fourth best team in West London arguably! I like loftus road. Bang in the middle of the local area. It's old and I quite like how boxed in it feels. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 They need a new ground Loftus road is a right shithole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) Wait until they get a brand new soulless bowl somewhere. No atmosphere. They'll be pining for noisy Loftus Rd then. The mighty Mick Jones might write a song about it, so not all bad, eh - "The Ballad of South Africa Road" - a 1,2 3 4! If not, perhaps "I fought the council and, the council won". Yes indeedy, it'sbeen a long week. Taxi! Edited October 29, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Watching QPR vs Forest. Adomah starting at the age of 33. Got to be one the most universally popular championship footballers. Every team he’s played at has loved him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 I love Loftus Road. Proper ground bang in the community. My view is that the Council should do all they can to help relocate them locally. Other Councils do much to support their club eg Exeter City Council bought St James Park to keep the club afloat. Councils have a duty to support the culture in their area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Could they not rebuild each stand separately over a few years and increase the capacity at the same time. As it's already in a built up area getting planning permission for slightly taller stands shouldn't be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, hollydog said: I love Loftus Road. Proper ground bang in the community. My view is that the Council should do all they can to help relocate them locally. Other Councils do much to support their club eg Exeter City Council bought St James Park to keep the club afloat. Councils have a duty to support the culture in their area. Do they really? When it comes to using taxes paid by people on minimum wage that maybe don't even like football to support a club owned by billionaires as a play thing I think that's somewhere I would draw the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S25loyal Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, hollydog said: I love Loftus Road. Proper ground bang in the community. My view is that the Council should do all they can to help relocate them locally. Other Councils do much to support their club eg Exeter City Council bought St James Park to keep the club afloat. Councils have a duty to support the culture in their area. Comparing Exeter city, with QPR, laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 If they're that happy to move elsewhere they should have a range of clubs to share with at their disposal whilat they knock down and rebuild the site they already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, S25loyal said: Comparing Exeter city, with QPR, laughable. Actually comparing Exeter City Council with Hammersmith and Fulham Council. Would also add that Liverpool City Council , Bradford City Council, Newcastle City Council have actively helped their clubs redevelop and/or relocate. I used Exeter as an example as I live nearby and worked there for several years. Glad I made thee laugh though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, S25loyal said: Comparing Exeter city, with QPR, laughable. https://chiswickherald.co.uk/brentford-fc-sign-planning-agreement-with-hounslow-council-p2256-95.htm Am I allowed to compare QPR with Brentford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, hollydog said: https://chiswickherald.co.uk/brentford-fc-sign-planning-agreement-with-hounslow-council-p2256-95.htm Am I allowed to compare QPR with Brentford? That article doesn't mean Brentford received any local authority support. It actually meant Brentford had to make a financial contribution to the local authority. As per the report... "Section 106 of the Town & Country Planning Act requires landowners and developers to compensate a local planning authority for things it must build--such as roadways--because of a proposed development. Aspects of S106 agreements include financial contributions towards highway works, town center, education, and maintenance payments for things like affordable housing and public open space." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, hollydog said: https://chiswickherald.co.uk/brentford-fc-sign-planning-agreement-with-hounslow-council-p2256-95.htm Am I allowed to compare QPR with Brentford? Although there are two other clubs who are based in Hammersmith and Fulham whereas with the exception of Liverpool all the other cities you cite have only professional club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: That article doesn't mean Brentford received any local authority support. It actually meant Brentford had to make a financial contribution to the local authority. As per the report... "Section 106 of the Town & Country Planning Act requires landowners and developers to compensate a local planning authority for things it must build--such as roadways--because of a proposed development. Aspects of S106 agreements include financial contributions towards highway works, town center, education, and maintenance payments for things like affordable housing and public open space." I realise that - i’m a Chartered Town Planner and am Head of Planning at a south west Council. But there was a long dialogue between Brentford FC and the Council, who assisted in finding a site before an application was submitted. Ditto Liverpool Council were instrumental in finding a site for Everton. My own experience while working at a Council includes helping a premiership rugby club find a site. My point is that local Councils can choose (or not) to help facilitate a relocation/redevelopment. The contributions under Section 106 are a matter of planning policy and are applicable to all developers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, walnutroof said: Although there are two other clubs who are based in Hammersmith and Fulham whereas with the exception of Liverpool all the other cities you cite have only professional club Good point and for smaller councils there is always the kudos of having a league football team. Rochdale get mentioned every Saturday afternoon on the tv but somewhere much bigger eg Wakefield doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, WessexPest said: If ever a club needed a new ground… I’ve never heard anyone have a good word to say about Loftus Rd, QPR fan or visitor. ... and yet QPR is renowned for having had the most home grounds - SEVENTEEN - who was it who crooned “If you get it wrong, you get it right next time” ... ?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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