GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. I didn’t see any of it. In fact I’m half cut having watched the first half of the cricket, but if what you say is correct, it wouldn’t make him drastically different to the vast majority of the team now would it? Hes a youngster. I’m inclined to cut him some slack. Edited October 30, 2021 by Fordy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Wasn’t the change I’d have made. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. Me either, it seemed very risky at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Nige said before the game he is close to the starting 11 and if it weren’t for the 17 game winless run going into today then there would have been every chance on him starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. If your plan is to sit on a 1 goal lead for the entire second half it's a pointless change in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. He looked a bit caught between to me. Wasn’t sure which man to mark, what positions to take up. No different to Bakinson before him, I put that down to formation & possibly having someone so young & inexperienced behind him. But worked hard & will gain from it. COYR 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. Was quite surprised to see him come on. I think O’Dowda needs to leave the club, but he seemed the most natural sub 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Looked a yard off it today. Makes you appreciate HNM and his contribution since he was 17/18 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Wasn’t the change I’d have made. I couldn’t believe it. And then after he played for a bit, I couldn’t believe it even more. Nothing against him at all but the substitution was extraordinary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought Alex Scott should have come on. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Simon bristol Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Would rather see benarous or scott than palmer or odowda 31 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. So you'll post a dedicated thread picking out his weakness. As has previously been said the kid should be cut some slack. Just staggered that there seems to be an obsession with having something to moan about. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 The truth is we got to give these players a go as we don’t really have a lot else to turn to. Yeah he look a yard off, but it’s about development. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Mind you, it did help that Wells (as he was about to shoot) and Martin (as he was about to break) both tackles him. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. I watched him and Bakinson today, Christ did he take a beating. The stuff you can get away with throw-ins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Henry said: Was quite surprised to see him come on. I think O’Dowda needs to leave the club, but he seemed the most natural sub Or Scott, who has shown before he’s good enough. On what I saw I’d rather that Simpson came on & Tanner played in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Prime Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. You don't want to knock the kid, but you did anyway. Incredibly harsh. He hardly received the ball and the times he did he was tackled by his teammates (Martin in a counter attacking situation and Wells in the box). I wouldn't say he played any better or worse than anyone else. The one time he was in a position to take someone on, he was outmuscled, but arguably it was a foul. I also thought he was committed and helped out in defence. I really thought this would be a thread about how great it is to see another academy product make his debut. I really hope he doesn't read your post. 22 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, 054123 said: I watched him and Bakinson today, Christ did he take a beating. The stuff you can get away with throw-ins! Yep, they should’ve earned 10-12 fouls today….and sometimes as manager you have to think - Martin is getting bugger all, I need to change him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? He certainly did, not sure if he just ran into team mates but appeared to actually tackle them too! His time will come, but today was a difficult debut 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post And Its Smith Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he? Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly. It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution. No need for this thread picking out a 17 year old who two months ago was nowhere near this squad and clearly nervous. Expect he will be delighted to see a thread dedicated to how he was off the standard. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mantally scarred. Someone for the fans to get behind,someone for the senior players to rally around. A distraction from the nervous energy. Concede and its insanity Win and it worked; was it down to the sub? Prob not, but it's not like the standard option has worked for the last 18 thousand years 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthS22 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. I’m.not sure he should have started but definitely should have come off. We were crying out for someone to put their foot on the ball and keep possession and Martin today was all flicks and attempted layoffs which rarely came off. Would have loved to see Scott on for the last half hour to bring us a bit more composure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: No need for this thread picking out a 17 year old who two months ago was nowhere near this squad and clearly nervous. Expect he will be delighted to see a thread dedicated to how he was off the standard. In fairness if the OP hadn’t have started the thread someone else would have done, if anything blame the manager for throwing him into the situation when he wasn’t ready Edited October 30, 2021 by pl00peh91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 In fairness to the lad to be brought on at that time in the game with the amount of pressure on the result it was always going to be tough for him. The fair and reasonable thing to do would be to reserve judgment untill he is given a proper opportunity because by all accounts he is ridiculously talented on the ball and always looks to play the forward pass to make things happen, he could be just what we need as the season progresses. I echo others though it was strange timing by Pearson to bring him on today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 As others have said it was a strange sub to make and he definitely looked a yard off the pace. He did get on the ball a couple of times and looked technically good but he also looked lightweight and too easy to get past. I’m sure he’ll be a great player in time but today wasn’t the day for him and it could have cost us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, RedM said: He certainly did, not sure if he just ran into team mates but appeared to actually tackle them too! His time will come, but today was a difficult debut Thought as much them running into him, think it was him and Martin that lost the ball in the lead up to the Cole clearance off our line, but for me that was Martin more at fault than Benarous. Didn’t think he had quite as poor a debut as most are indicating, didn’t help him that our defence constantly dragged too far left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, The turtle said: Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mantally scarred. Nige just made that comment on BBCRB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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