Benarous

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down.

I am very concerned as we go forward into a season which is vitally important to the future of this football club, to see that NP has absolutely no apparent idea on how to use substitutes effectively and  correctly  IMHO.

[maxjak]

1 hour ago, Dullmoan Tone said:

Or he is trying to make a point (rather like Cottrill did, but slightly differently) about only having these available because he doesn't trust the more senior pro's?

A very strange time.......when we are holding on to try to achieve our first home win since the signing of the Magna Carta.....to make his point, strange indeed?

[Davefevs]

37 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I'll be honest and I'm sure many will disagree but I thought James was very poor today, Massengo did not hit his normal heights (although that can be a high bar) and Bakinson actually did alright for me when you consider he had James alongside him who had a bit of a mare imo. Great pass for Wells which really should have resulted in a third goal whether that be from Wells himself or a tap in from a squared ball.

Agree with all of that no1.  Massengo not very disciplined at times….but more encouraging signs he can offer more in the attacking third.  Great pass to Martin for the second goal, another to Wells second half which was not offside.

22 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

From where I sat Barnsley were, if not running riot, certainly having the better of things down both our left and right, and for large chunks of the game. Playing 3 in midfield plus Weimann made us really unbalanced, and (this might be unpopular) Bakinson and HNM seemed to be leaving large gaps behind them. So whether young Ayman or anybody else came on the structure was wrong.

Big call by Pearson, mind.

The 4312-diamond didn’t really work without the ball, balls going back and forth negating Weimann, meaning their wingbacks could play high and with nobody on them.  We got away with that, but I guess you can argue that they lost Weimann twice and it cost them.  Swings and roundabouts…..but 3rd man runners (like Weimann) beat a high line easily with well timed runs.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

I said earlier in this thread that it was tough for him today and in interview he thought he could have done better, but the club and more importantly the management feel that he is a level headed young man who will only learn from his experience. They certainly seem to have more faith in him, and Scott and Bell, than they do in Palmer and Vyner who can't make the bench. 

[Jasper Testimitanu]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he?

Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly.

It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution.

Embarrassing how our ‘fans’ write a player off on 25 minutes, wasn’t the most complete performance, however it’s a start and hopefully more to come, plenty of energy and if you listened to his interview you’ll see he’s level headed enough to recognise his personal performance wasn’t at the level he wanted/expected. 
 

We’ve got some good young lads that will no doubt come good, fans have to play there part with a bit of reality abs patience. 

 

[Kid in the Riot]

24 minutes ago, The Bard said:

For someone miles off of it he did quite a lot.

He wasn't great but frankly he wasn't helped by his team mates. 

I will remind the original poster of this in the years to come.  I think he's got a future

I haven't heard Pearson wax lyrical about any of our players like he did about Ayman pre- and post-match. Lee Johnson also named him as "the" player coming through the Academy that would have a big future in the game.

He was the only category 2 Academy player called up to England under 17s, in a squad which included the likes of Harvey Elliott and Louie Barry. 

So, yes, he is a player of huge potential and personally I'm glad he's had that experience today because he'll be a better player for it. 

[WECANDO]

This young lad scored 3 cracking goals for the under 23s in their last match and has been playing very well. He's earnt his chance but this was a difficult match with the team under pressure to win at home. Hope he stays in the first team squad and gets on for 20 in the next match. 

[Davefevs]

I still wonder what has happened to Vyner and Palmer?  Someone said they were doing fitness work pre-game, but that will be to keep them fit should they be needed….but they are obviously out of favour at the mo’.

[Wrongagain]

First chance with the first team, a bit green but full of running, did not shy away from a challenge!

2 underperforming forwards decided to make sure he did not outshine them - I think he was a breath of fresh air and well deserved his first chance.

Great time to get a slagging from some supporters! How many times was Wells caught offside again and because of that how many chances went begging?

put the blame where it belongs! 

[Malago]

7 minutes ago, dave36 said:

First chance with the first team, a bit green but full of running, did not shy away from a challenge!

2 underperforming forwards decided to make sure he did not outshine them - I think he was a breath of fresh air and well deserved his first chance.

Great time to get a slagging from some supporters! How many times was Wells caught offside again and because of that how many chances went begging?

put the blame where it belongs! 

Well said Dave.  Once again OTIB rushes to the court of instant judgement.  Ridiculous.  Let’s see what the lad looks like after he’s had a run of games.

[SuperDziek]

Can’t see that @GrahamChas said anything wrong here. Outmuscled in his first challenge on the pitch which set the tone for the rest of his 25 minutes on the pitch.  He’s looking at his performance today objectively. 
 

BUT he’s clearly highly rated and hopefully has a bright future in the game, ideally in our red and white.  It’s great to see the players coming through the academy and playing for the first team. Some will make it, some won’t. Would like to see Him get more game time so we can see properly what he can do. Same as the likes of Bell, Conway etc. 

 

COYR

[The Swan and Cemetery]

10 minutes ago, SuperDziek said:

Can’t see that @GrahamChas said anything wrong here. Outmuscled in his first challenge on the pitch which set the tone for the rest of his 25 minutes on the pitch.  He’s looking at his performance today objectively. 
 

BUT he’s clearly highly rated and hopefully has a bright future in the game, ideally in our red and white.  It’s great to see the players coming through the academy and playing for the first team. Some will make it, some won’t. Would like to see Him get more game time so we can see properly what he can do. Same as the likes of Bell, Conway etc. 

 

COYR

I thought he did make some positive contributions, accepting that view is subjective rather than objective. We were a lot further up the pitch than in recent similar scenarios, that wasn’t him alone, but he was part of it. Also helped keep things in the corner in the very dying embers. Looked energetic and positive. Also made mistakes and was out of position at times (see rest of team for ditto). Nothing astonishing, but in my view, a lot better than the OP’s view. 

[BCFCGav]

I’ve been a critic of Bakinson, but I thought he was growing into it. Benarous on in his place was truly bizarre to me. 

But we won and I trust Nige so so sod it. Congrats on the debut Ayman, big things coming! 

[PHILINFRANCE]

3 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

How many of the members of this forum can remember the debut of a seventeen year old, still skinny and very raw in football terms? I can't remember his name but he did have one or two tidy games for two City's.

Well you could be seeing the beginnings of another one!

I assume you are referring to Gerry Gow - Bristol and Manchester City.

Gerry was certainly skinny and raw when he made his first team debut, but I would suggest that GG and AB are (were) somewhat different characters - Gerry was always a confident, brash even, hard man, especially as part of that wonderful youth team, whereas I perceive AS as being more of a skilful, graceful player; not to say that GG wasn't skilful.

3 hours ago, Alan Dicks said:

Tom Ritchie?

He only played for one City, albeit twice.

[Davefevs]

 

[Waconda]

2 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

other teams know scott,o dowda etc and how to mark them,bring on benarous and they have to be careful until they suss him out. good to see him come on,now knows he wont rot in the u23s

Not sure we have a policy of letting players "rot" in the u23s - Anything but IMO.

[Numero Uno]

15 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Probably not his most suited role but yeah agree thought Bakinson wasn't bad today. Looks a bit fitter to me. Won a lot of headers too in the middle of the park.

Yep but he seems to be the fall guy with people. I know why Pearson kept James on (because he wouldn't want Bakinson trying to do James job) BUT James was having a mare and it affected both Massengo who was only at 80% today imo and Bakinson who was certainly nowhere near the worst of the performers on that pitch today and played our ONLY quality pass of the second 45 minutes.

[Numero Uno]

50 minutes ago, SuperDziek said:

Can’t see that @GrahamChas said anything wrong here. Outmuscled in his first challenge on the pitch which set the tone for the rest of his 25 minutes on the pitch.  He’s looking at his performance today objectively. 
 

BUT he’s clearly highly rated and hopefully has a bright future in the game, ideally in our red and white.  It’s great to see the players coming through the academy and playing for the first team. Some will make it, some won’t. Would like to see Him get more game time so we can see properly what he can do. Same as the likes of Bell, Conway etc. 

 

COYR

It's about management with these young players, something I think Pearson is very good at for all the criticism he gets on here by a few. I think we will see Scott affecting games come the end of the season and it's right that he is being eased in so that he reaches that level.

[Numero Uno]

Just now, JonDolman said:

Yeah Bakinson has got a lot of quality and I am glad he's still here because if he can improve in the areas that need improving then he could become a real talent. 

The funny thing is start of last season in his first ever championship games he looked comfortable and a reliable midfielder to me. 

Today was more like it in how he worked for the team and wasn't sloppy in possession either so he is improving.

I don't think Nige trusts him just yet, stamina wise, to do it for 90 minutes but the fact he started him is a step forward.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

1 hour ago, Jasper Testimitanu said:

Embarrassing how our ‘fans’ write a player off on 25 minutes, wasn’t the most complete performance, however it’s a start and hopefully more to come, plenty of energy and if you listened to his interview you’ll see he’s level headed enough to recognise his personal performance wasn’t at the level he wanted/expected. 
 

We’ve got some good young lads that will no doubt come good, fans have to play there part with a bit of reality abs patience. 

 

I don’t think anyone is writing off Benarous.  People are questioning the substitution, with some justification given the state of the game at the time.  He is hardly the first youngster to look out of his depth on his debut, but given the way Scott has performed, for instance, his introduction seems bizarre.  I hope he goes on to be a very good player for us but sadly it was far from a memorable debut, and it might have cost us dear.

[cidered abroad]

1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I assume you are referring to Gerry Gow - Bristol and Manchester City.

Gerry was certainly skinny and raw when he made his first team debut, but I would suggest that GG and AB are (were) somewhat different characters - Gerry was always a confident, brash even, hard man, especially as part of that wonderful youth team, whereas I perceive AS as being more of a skilful, graceful player; not to say that GG wasn't skilful.

He only played for one City, albeit twice.

I was just trying to highlight that a twenty minute sub debut isn't the best way to decide how well an 18 years lad will progress.

Also I'm not privy to Pearson's reasons for bringing him on. What I do believe is that NP knows exactly why he gave him his debut and trust that he would not risk his football career.

If we can stay in this league at end of season, the club will benefit from the appearances last/this year by the City Academy boys.

[Merrick's Marvels]

5 hours ago, GrahamC said:

I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he?

Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly.

It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution.

I hate to say this but...

I seriously worry about a manager's judgement if he thinks this kid is ready because for that 20 mins cameo we were, like you say, playing with 10 men. Then again, he replaced Bakinson, which meant we'd be playing with 10 men for the previous 70 mins anyway. Palmer would have held onto the ball better, which says it all. 

We are a shambles.

[firstdivision]

3 hours ago, Jasper Testimitanu said:

Embarrassing how our ‘fans’ write a player off on 25 minutes, wasn’t the most complete performance, however it’s a start and hopefully more to come, plenty of energy and if you listened to his interview you’ll see he’s level headed enough to recognise his personal performance wasn’t at the level he wanted/expected. 
 

We’ve got some good young lads that will no doubt come good, fans have to play there part with a bit of reality abs patience. 

 

He’s not written him off. He’s merely stated that in that game and in that situation, he wasn’t ready or able to do what was required. He makes a sound tactical point and it crossed my mind, too, that AB could have been taken off. It’s not a comment about his undoubted potential, just an analysis of what was needed in the last 20 minutes. 
I agree with Graham - it was a poor choice of sub and the young lad really struggled. But good luck to him. I hope he’s got something about him. We could do with some players who get us excited because we don’t have many of them at the moment.

[Davefevs]

11 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Who was your choice of sub ? Or no sub maybe ? 

Scott for Martin!

[Merrick's Marvels]

9 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Who was your choice of sub ? Or no sub maybe ? 

Scott. 

I'd back him not to have a heavy touch virtually every time he had the ball, or choose wrong options or, extraordinarily, tackle - and flatten - his own team mate and in the process gift possession straight to the opposition in our own half (at which point, because I was looking right at him, Pearson went mental - and I mean mental).

The lad's clearly a talent but I'm struggling to remember a worse sub cameo. 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

I was surprised it was not Scott. COD no way after his useless contribution in closing out the Forest game. Bold putting on AB , NP explained why , so he thought someone fresh without baggage was needed. I'm delighted for AB and whilst it was a tough baptism I don't share the negative vibes on here. These players are the players that will form the core of any promotion side. We are not going to buy our way to the top. We also need to know what they are made of. Very very young of course but both Scott and AB look to have a great future. 

I don’t think he was anywhere near as bad as made out, but it shows how some come in and look ready (Scott, Conway) and others might need more than 25 mins (Benarous, Bell).  No shame in an 18 year old needing time to adjust, least of all in a frantic game like today.  Some of our more senior players having given far worse at times!

Its all about taking the learnings from it.  He’ll realise he has to think a bit quicker next time.

Edited October 30, 2021 by Davefevs

[Davefevs]

Hopefully get Antoine, Joe and Tommy back over the next week or so, and we have more options….and a couple / few more of the 18 drop out….and we look stronger imho

[Merrick's Marvels]

Just now, billywedlock said:

You don't recall Palmer and COD at our previous home game ! 

I do and I've also given up on Palmer as the answer to any of our problems - which indicates how poorly i think the young man played today.

Just telling it straight, like Pearson does Bill !

He's obviously a good player but is he ready?? Not on the evidence of that today - even if it's just for 20 mins, I expect him to control the ball and find a team mate, something he failed to do repeatedly. Never mind tackling his own team mate when we had possession which gifted the ball to Barnsley in our own half.

Not the lad's finest moment.

I agree wholeheartedly with your point that we're unlikely to buy our way to promotion and so the likes of Benarous will form the basis of any successful City side going forward.

But based on the team's performance today, that might be a successful City side that wins promotion from L1 to the Chamlionship.  

[hollydog]

4 hours ago, billywedlock said:

Delighted for the lad. We will see a lot more of him over the years to come. 

Me too. Can’t believe why anybody would want to say anything else after today. What is wrong with people? 

[Merrick's Marvels]

14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

He’ll realise he has to think a bit quicker next time.

He had 1 moment where he had the ball under control and was facing up 2 defenders just outside their area.

He didn't look to just keep possession and pass backwards to a team mate (first mistake).

Instead he wanted to take them on. Fair play lad, I thought, show us what you're about.

He started to dribble... and was dispossessed like taking candy from a baby. 

As you say - absolutely everything he did needs to be quicker. Sharper. More precise.  

He's better than what he showed today.

What I question is the person who thought he was ready.

 

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

He had 1 moment where he had the ball under control and was facing up 2 defenders just outside their area.

He didn't look to just keep possession and pass backwards to a team mate (first mistake).

Instead he wanted to take them on. Fair play lad, I thought, show us what you're about.

He started to dribble... and was dispossessed like taking candy from a baby. 

As you say - absolutely everything he did needs to be quicker. Sharper. More precise.  

He's better than what he showed today.

What I question is the person who thought he was ready.

 

I remember that incident…I agree.

This next comment is not about Benarous, but generally about how “match-like” training is?  I watched Callum O’Dowda skin his man 3 times in one Robinstv clip recently, and then I saw him try to “do” Joe Williams, who just put his arm across him and eased him off the ball.  That’s not having a go at O’Dowda either, but Williams for me, showed how you train at “match intensity”.

[bearded_red]

7 hours ago, Simon bristol said:

Would rather see benarous or scott than palmer or odowda

Ain’t that the truth.

[Merrick's Marvels]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I remember that incident…I agree.

This next comment is not about Benarous, but generally about how “match-like” training is?  I watched Callum O’Dowda skin his man 3 times in one Robinstv clip recently, and then I saw him try to “do” Joe Williams, who just put his arm across him and eased him off the ball.  That’s not having a go at O’Dowda either, but Williams for me, showed how you train at “match intensity”.

I've been wanting to post something about that Failand Uncut video! 

O'Dowda looks like Messi in that video - skinning people for fun in tight spaces with incredible skill.

Who the hell is that bloke cos the fella who turns up on matchday is someone completely different!?!

Edited October 30, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels

[DaveF]

18 year old comes on for debut. Gets slated on Internet forums.

Hopefully Benarous doesn't read otib.

[Garland-sweden]

10 hours ago, petehinton said:

Speaks more volume about what he thinks about Bakinson’s performance and what he thinks about CO’D. Hell of a risk, and didn’t really pay off. Win is all that counts I suppose 

Yes, Bakinson and COD is not the players who is strong to defend. Im sure our young player is good. Barnsley were all over us and difficault for B to make an impact. Williams, King injured, not many players left to play in midfield. As you say, win is all that counts.

[richwwtk]

I didn't think Benarous was that bad, certainly no worse than the rest of the side, and Martin tackling him in the last few minutes was awful on Martin's part, not the other way round.

Having said that, I thought at the time it was a very strange substitution to be making, especially as Bakinson had just had his best 10 minutes of the match when he was taken off.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, richwwtk said:

I didn't think Benarous was that bad, certainly no worse than the rest of the side, and Martin tackling him in the last few minutes was awful on Martin's part, not the other way round.

Having said that, I thought at the time it was a very strange substitution to be making, especially as Bakinson had just had his best 10 minutes of the match when he was taken off.

I think what happens with Bakinson is Nige reacts to certain situations, there was one just in front of me in the Dolman when he made no attempt whatsoever to put a challenge in, just after he was too weak in a tackle & was taken off.

He isn’t my favourite but thought he was no poorer than others yesterday & could have stayed on, at least for another 10.

I’d have moved Weimann up top for Martin & brought on Scott first, then O’Dowda for Bakinson afterwards.

[Red Army 75]

Fair play to him proud day for him and his family. Imagine being 17 coming on for your debut in circumstances of immense pressure for many reasons. He was bound to be nervous and that probably showed . But he done ok even our own players wanted to tackle him. Have no doubt this boy is the real deal. Well done lad

[firstdivision]

9 hours ago, billywedlock said:

Who was your choice of sub ? Or no sub maybe ? 

Simpson for Kalas. Obvs.
Either that, or O’Dowda for Bentley.

[redsquirrel]

got to also remember its still early in the season,come christmas, i dare say we will have a few more out with injuries/isolating etc, so the more players Nige has with experience ,the better. towler out on loan is an example should pring get whacked bid time,or jd for that matter. martin will need a rest sooner or later ,imagine if wells gets a cruncher at the same time. i think someone already mentioned that the second half of the season is being planned for in these earlyish games

[JoeAman08]

Had no problem with the change. He needs some minutes at this level to show the standard he needs to be at. Not as if city are going to be cruising at 2 or 3 nil anytime soon. He had a couple poor touches and was caught out a few times. On the flip side, he just saw how perfect and switched on he needs to be.
 

Positive 25 minutes for him and we still got the 3 points. Rode our luck at times but we were always going to need a fair portion of luck to get that win at home. These young players are only going to help us going forward and as I said there will be no easy games to come into. Going to have to persevere at times as fans. 

 

 

[Lew-T]

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Hopefully get Antoine, Joe and Tommy back over the next week or so, and we have more options….and a couple / few more of the 18 drop out….and we look stronger imho

Much needed energy there.

[1960maaan]

41 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I think what happens with Bakinson is Nige reacts to certain situations, there was one just in front of me in the Dolman when he made no attempt whatsoever to put a challenge in, just after he was too weak in a tackle & was taken off.

He isn’t my favourite but thought he was no poorer than others yesterday & could have stayed on, at least for another 10.

I’d have moved Weimann up top for Martin & brought on Scott first, then O’Dowda for Bakinson afterwards.

I think that was nearer my thinking. When Bakinson came off I would have wanted a little more solidity or impact. COD slotting into CMF and able to run at their defence takes pressure off too. For that situation I thought Banarous was a little light weight for the situation, I know there are rarely perfect times to blood youngsters, but we needed to battle through that last 15 minutes.

[shelts]

More important is what the gaffa thinks of the lad and not our opinions!!!
Never heard of him before so was very surprised to see him come on  . A winning start to his first team debut.  He wasn’t afraid to keep hold of the ball and yes he came unstuck with that !

[INCRED]

17 hours ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

What like he did when he came on against Forest? O’Dowda for me is not the player you write about. One game maybe a season he’s good then it’s back to normal. 

One of NPs not on the bus players?

[Jasper Testimitanu]

12 hours ago, firstdivision said:

He’s not written him off. He’s merely stated that in that game and in that situation, he wasn’t ready or able to do what was required. He makes a sound tactical point and it crossed my mind, too, that AB could have been taken off. It’s not a comment about his undoubted potential, just an analysis of what was needed in the last 20 minutes. 
I agree with Graham - it was a poor choice of sub and the young lad really struggled. But good luck to him. I hope he’s got something about him. We could do with some players who get us excited because we don’t have many of them at the moment.

Fair point however it would be more constructive to feed some positive energy behind the lad rather than highlighting a hypothetical tactical situation/weakness that didn’t transpire in fact the change rightly or wrongly in anyone’s eyes resulted in a home win and 3 points, Benarous played his part. Agree I’m also hopeful he can bring some positivity to the season! 

[Kid in the Riot]

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

I think what happens with Bakinson is Nige reacts to certain situations, there was one just in front of me in the Dolman when he made no attempt whatsoever to put a challenge in, just after he was too weak in a tackle & was taken off.

He isn’t my favourite but thought he was no poorer than others yesterday & could have stayed on, at least for another 10.

I’d have moved Weimann up top for Martin & brought on Scott first, then O’Dowda for Bakinson afterwards.

Nige is quite reactive. It's the reason Tanner was subbed last week. Tanner was jogging instead of running back into position and Nige went mental on the touchline. Couple of minutes later and Tanner was subbed off.

It could be seen as a weakness, letting your emotions influence decisions too much.

I think it's also a case of Nige putting down markers on the squad though, and setting standards. 

If you want to come on this journey then 95% commitment isn't good enough. 

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Nige is quite reactive. It's the reason Tanner was subbed last week. Tanner was jogging instead of running back into position and Nige went mental on the touchline. Couple of minutes later and Tanner was subbed off.

It could be seen as a weakness, letting your emotions influence decisions too much.

I think it's also a case of Nige putting down markers on the squad though, and setting standards. 

If you want to come on this journey then 95% commitment isn't good enough. 

Spot on.  It's aimed at the whole squad.  An indication he will not accept mental weakness.  Shape up or shove off.  
It didn't stop Tanner getting selected next game.  I much prefer this to the LJ policy of naming them in post match interviews then banishing them for months before picking them out the blue for a big game.  I can remember that being done with the likes of Adelukan at Leeds for example. 

[Clutton Caveman]

On 30/10/2021 at 17:28, GrahamC said:

I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he?

Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly.

It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution.

Too small, too slow, too passive and just not ready

[Clutton Caveman]

22 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Nige is quite reactive. It's the reason Tanner was subbed last week. Tanner was jogging instead of running back into position and Nige went mental on the touchline. Couple of minutes later and Tanner was subbed off.

It could be seen as a weakness, letting your emotions influence decisions too much.

I think it's also a case of Nige putting down markers on the squad though, and setting standards. 

If you want to come on this journey then 95% commitment isn't good enough. 

Well if that is the standard set I think he could make 3 or 4 changes each week including Bakinson every time he plays

[Coxy27]

On 30/10/2021 at 17:28, GrahamC said:

I don’t want to knock the kid, but how much off the standard was he?

Could see a case for taking him back off, so weak and letting his man go repeatedly.

It was like playing with 10 men, not sure he made a single positive contribution.

I don't know what your almost 14000 other posts on this forum have been like, but I really hope they aren't as negative and spiteful as this. One of the saddest things I've seen on here for some time.

I can't get my head around someone who thinks to post this less than an hour after our first home victory in bloody ages. Digging out a very young lad who's just made his debut.

As others have said, I just hope the lad hasn't seen this.

[bcfc01]

 

 

[Davefevs]

47 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

I don't know what your almost 14000 other posts on this forum have been like, but I really hope they aren't as negative and spiteful as this. One of the saddest things I've seen on here for some time.

I can't get my head around someone who thinks to post this less than an hour after our first home victory in bloody ages. Digging out a very young lad who's just made his debut.

As others have said, I just hope the lad hasn't seen this.

Graham is a very respected poster on here.

[The Bard]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Graham is a very respected poster on here.

He is.   No one sounds the right note all the time though..

[Coxy27]

36 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Graham is a very respected poster on here.

Fair enough Dave - In my opinion this particular post was poor judgement.

[DaveF]

13 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

Fair enough Dave - In my opinion this particular post was poor judgement.

Have to agree, did seem needlessly harsh.

[Davefevs]

13 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

Fair enough Dave - In my opinion this particular post was poor judgement.

As Bard says, not every post is a good one.

[exAtyeoMax]

2 hours ago, Coxy27 said:

I don't know what your almost 14000 other posts on this forum have been like, but I really hope they aren't as negative and spiteful as this. One of the saddest things I've seen on here for some time.

I can't get my head around someone who thinks to post this less than an hour after our first home victory in bloody ages. Digging out a very young lad who's just made his debut.

As others have said, I just hope the lad hasn't seen this.

I didn't view his post as spiteful, just offering a critique of his performance. Perhaps it was too critical after his first appearance but I think the comment was aimed more towards Nige and his choice of sub.

[Coxy27]

18 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I didn't view his post as spiteful, just offering a critique of his performance. Perhaps it was too critical after his first appearance but I think the comment was aimed more towards Nige and his choice of sub.

That's fair enough and probably the intention, but put yourself in the shoes of the player if he's read that.

[exAtyeoMax]

4 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

That's fair enough and probably the intention, but put yourself in the shoes of the player if he's read that.

yes, I get what you're saying…it was a tough game for him to be introduced but will do him good in the long run, I'm sure. Hopefully he'll be involved on Tuesday at Brum! 

[Davefevs]

33 minutes ago, Coxy27 said:

That's fair enough and probably the intention, but put yourself in the shoes of the player if he's read that.

I once replied to a tweet of some little kid dribbling past everyone, skills, dragbacks, the lot.  I said - I hope he learns how and when to pass.  Young Master Benarous replied to my tweet with - yes, that was me, I still learning that bit

[Davefevs]

Will read this.  Tom is making a really good impression with some of the things he's written in the past week or two.  Think he's a student on a placement.  Will check.

 

Edit: he's on a placement

Edited November 1, 2021 by Davefevs

[HappyClapper]

14 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

This is excellent for this thread 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearsons-bristol-city-project-6142124

new journalist at EP writing a well constructed and researched article 

A good read. Thanks BW.

Echoes the thoughts of some posters. The parts of the jigsaw are being put in place.

Keep the faith. We will have a team to be proud of soon enough. (Not soon enough for some?)

Edited November 1, 2021 by HappyClapper