Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Villa currently trailing at half time 2-1. Hoping the hammers hold on, villa fans not currently very happy with Dean Smith, just 3 points above bottom 3. If they don't pick up soon think he will be gone. Shakespeare will most likely be available then. Put the band back together ? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Villa currently trailing at half time 2-1. Hoping the hammers hold on, villa fans not currently very happy with Dean Smith, just 3 points above bottom 3. If they don't pick up soon think he will be gone. Shakespeare will most likely be available then. Put the band back together ? Was just thinking same thing. Or would he become caretaker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Was just thinking same thing. Or would he become caretaker? Probably only until they appoint a `big name` regardless of whether they can do the job or not. John Terry anyone? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Red card for that? The elbow maybe but there was nothing in that challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Impressed with West Ham reckon they can get 4th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Red card for that? The elbow maybe but there was nothing in that challenge. Don't understand the first one at all. I suppose by the letter of the law the second prevented a goal scoring opportunity but very harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, cheese said: Don't understand the first one at all. I suppose by the letter of the law the second prevented a goal scoring opportunity but very harsh. Did he actually touch him? The first was a pretty clear elbow to the mush IMHO, straight red. I used to understand the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, billywedlock said: If Shakespeare was available not sure he fits in with Curtis , though Nige would try to find a way I’m sure . Though I actually want Dean S to succeed . NP = Manager Shakespeare = Assistant Manager Fleming = First Team Coach Alex Ball = back to u23s Steve Walsh = Head of Recruitment Maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 getting dicked 4-1 now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I’m starting to really enjoy this West Ham team. I’d like us to try and play like them. Fanciful I know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Very happy for Moyes after everything he has been through. Arguably a better achievement doing it with West Ham now than Everton before because the levels are much higher in the Premier League these days in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Exciting times for WHUFC. Enjoyed seeing Villa get stuffed - have a keen dislike of them going back to when they were in our division. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, VT05763 said: NP = Manager Shakespeare = Assistant Manager Fleming = First Team Coach Alex Ball = back to u23s Steve Walsh = Head of Recruitment Maybe ? Surely much better than us would want Walsh Edited October 31, 2021 by And Its Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Surely much better than us would want Walsh With out doubt but we have a lot to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 26 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Very happy for Moyes after everything he has been through. Arguably a better achievement doing it with West Ham now than Everton before because the levels are much higher in the Premier League these days in my opinion. As I saw someone say on Facebook... If Moyes hadn't managed Man Utd, everyone would probably be sauing he should manage Man Utd..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Super said: Impressed with West Ham reckon they can get 4th. Tricky next block of fixtures for them though, the wheels could easily start to come off.. hoping they can get 4th though, play the game the right way and are great to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) For some reason I couldn’t see him coming here. Even without the question of whether he’d want to, I believe Nige let Simpson and Downing go as he felt the setup was too crowded. I even think this may be why he was watching games from the stand previously and has now stopped. Would another coach coming in just overcrowd the first team setup again? Perhaps there’s a part of him that wants to prove himself without Shakespeare as well. Working relationships often drift apart and go their separate ways as time goes by. Edited October 31, 2021 by Bouncearoundtheground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'm old enough to remember when Moyes was a semi-serious suggestion to manager us when Cotterill left, and again in 2016 when LJ went on that horrible run of form. He has advised the board in the past apparently. Think he gave McInnes a glowing reference (!) As for Shakey, there is undoubtedly room in the set-up to accommodate another coach... his and Dean Smith's stock is still pretty high though so may be tricky to tempt back to the Championship. Then again, they are both English, so opportunities in the Premier League will be limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Villa fallen into the classic trap of losing one key player and trying to replace him with 6 Smith will be under big pressure now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Got to say,the Iron look a very good side. Not sure if their backup players are as good but that first 11 look extremely strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Super said: Impressed with West Ham reckon they can get 4th. Yep. Hopefully at the expense of Man U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, petehinton said: Villa fallen into the classic trap of losing one key player and trying to replace him with 6 Smith will be under big pressure now Which is moronic given the job he has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, pl00peh91 said: Very happy for Moyes after everything he has been through. Arguably a better achievement doing it with West Ham now than Everton before because the levels are much higher in the Premier League these days in my opinion. Living in this part of the world i know it took West Ham fans a long time to warm to him and many didn’t want him reappointed so is a much better achievement. Just goes to show some clubs suit certain managers and vice versa. He navigated a tough period where they weren’t playing well and the fans were on his back but slowly turned it round, i saw them a couple of times and they were dire and boring to watch I see some parallels with Nige here at the moment and hopefully he’ll have the time to have a similar impact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: Perhaps there’s a part of him that wants to prove himself without Shakespeare as well. Working relationships often drift apart and go their separate ways as time goes by. That doesn't seem to be working out very well..! Let's hope he can get Shakespeare back to help him out, before we are too deep in relegation trouble, under his current experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Got to say, the Iron look a very good side. Not sure if their backup players are as good but that first 11 look extremely strong. Sorry to be pedantic but The Iron are Scunthorpe. West Ham are The Irons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I know a West Ham fan, a few in fact. Moyes really seems to have improved them and arguably if they bed in certain signings in certain ways, it can improve further stylistically. Areola I reckon is better in possession and better suited to a high line than say Fabianski and Vlasic is an exciting attacking player who is still relatively young. If Smith does go, maybe Shakespeare will become available- Walsh is he still in USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Living in this part of the world i know it took West Ham fans a long time to warm to him and many didn’t want him reappointed so is a much better achievement. Just goes to show some clubs suit certain managers and vice versa. He navigated a tough period where they weren’t playing well and the fans were on his back but slowly turned it round, i saw them a couple of times and they were dire and boring to watch I see some parallels with Nige here at the moment and hopefully he’ll have the time to have a similar impact A good friend of mine is a West Ham season ticket holder, and he didn’t want Moyes anywhere near the club second time around. Delighted now though!! I thought it helped that they played without the fans for a while, as pre pandemic it was getting pretty toxic. Gave Moyes time to develop the team without the extra stress/ pressure the fans would’ve brought. I would be surprised if things had worked out as well under normal circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Super said: Which is moronic given the job he has done. Always a game changer when owners give managers a war chest of cash and they get worse though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: NP = Manager Shakespeare = Assistant Manager Fleming = First Team Coach Alex Ball = back to u23s Steve Walsh = Head of Recruitment Maybe ? An ideal world & all that.. Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, HappyClapper said: A good friend of mine is a West Ham season ticket holder, and he didn’t want Moyes anywhere near the club second time around. Delighted now though!! I thought it helped that they played without the fans for a while, as pre pandemic it was getting pretty toxic. Gave Moyes time to develop the team without the extra stress/ pressure the fans would’ve brought. I would be surprised if things had worked out as well under normal circumstances. It certainly helped defuse the situation as the atmosphere had become toxic, more against the owners it has to be said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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