Redandproud Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Who would you replace him with, and how would you play to accommodate them? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Huddersfield away is in May, surely he isn't already 1st name on that team sheet ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsocks Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Needs a rest.give wells a chance.gets slated every game on here but if hes not given a run of games from the start why slag the bloke.done more when he came on today than martin did all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Didn't think he played that badly, yes he probably should have put that chance away but he was involved in the build up of the goal (as he is for lots of goals this season). Had some neat flicks and touches throughout the 1st half which contributed to some decent play, if Semenyo was more match fit you would have taken Martin off instead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I thought he won an awful lot of flicks ons today. I know he missed that chance and has no speed but I thought he held it up well at times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 There seems to be a strange obsession with trying to remain negative after winning this season. Sometimes the way we play and lack of decent service doesn’t do him any favours. It wasn’t one of his better games today but he worked his socks off and was part of a decent team display and much needed win. Can’t ask for much else surely? 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, redsocks said: Needs a rest.give wells a chance.gets slated every game on here but if hes not given a run of games from the start why slag the bloke.done more when he came on today than martin did all game. I was being a bit flippant, but the reality is a lot of people probably wouldn't even have one of Martin, Wells, Weimann, or Semenyo starting the majority of our games in an ideal world, let alone at least two of them. Martin has played every game, with 5 goals and 4 assists. I actually think that's as decent a return as could be expected. Not great, but decent. Wells has about 40% of the mins, and 1 goal 1 assist. That's probably a bit unfair on him as it obviously takes time to get up to speed, arguably especially for a striker, but I think "give Wells a chance" isn't really fair either - he's had lots of chances. Definitely disagree he did more than Martin today. I thought Martin actually looked better than he has for a bit (even given his poor miss). More balls into his feet, some neat flicks round the side, and chasing into the channels which isn't his game and probably not what he wants to be doing. It was a 6 / 10 for me, maybe a 7 at a stretch, and that's fine. Edited December 4, 2021 by IAmNick 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) Pearson has decided on a certain style of play, one he thinks will get the most out of our limited resources. This style of play requires a physical presence up front. Martin is the only who can provide it. It ain't pretty. And it doesn't get the best out of Martin either. But he's been asked to play a certain way and he gives it 100%, even though he knows, and Pearson knows, it's not playing to his strengths. Picking Weimann and Wells together, or one of them up front on their own, would require us to play inch perfect pass and move attacking football. How do you think that would turn out??? 90 minutes on the back foot, that's how. Our style of play will improve in time, probably with very few of the current squad still here. Edited December 4, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 He played well today I thought. Him and Weimann got into some dangerous positions (especially first half) and create problems for their defence, finishing was poor obviously. I would have given him a break before now but he was good today - IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 He was good today. Ran his socks off as well 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) Nige probably won’t rest him and I would wager his credentials in understanding football are somewhat better than yours. "I thought Chris Martin was excellent, I don’t think he lost a header" - NP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, 054123 said: I thought he won an awful lot of flicks ons today. I know he missed that chance and has no speed but I thought he held it up well at times. I didn’t see the first 70 mins today but Nige was very complimentary post-match, said he won all his (most) of his headers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Don’t think it was a coincidence we stretched an opposition defence today (yes I know they are ancient) with Semenyo playing centrally. Suddenly teams have to beware of balls behind them. I think he’ll be key going forward but Martin could quite conceivably partner well with him, holding play up / playing AS in behind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) Thought he played his role well today, did what he’s being asked to do well. Pearson singled him out for praise after match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I didn’t see the first 70 mins today but Nige was very complimentary post-match, said he won all his (most) of his headers. Yep, he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Eddie Notgetinya said: Nige probably won’t rest him and I would wager his credentials in understanding football are somewhat better than yours. "I thought Chris Martin was excellent, I don’t think he lost a header" - NP That just about sums up our playing style....oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) He did ok today. He certainly wins a lot of aerial duels, and I’m sure DaveFevs will have the stats to back that up. I was thinking the other day about his inclusion this season. I’m really rather surprised that he has started EVERY game (and I think only be subbed of 2 or 3 times). That’s more minutes than I thought he’d be getting. But - I think I know why. Our main attacking tactic is to get throw ins and launch them in. It’s generally Martin who is the target of that throw (as we’ve established, he wins his fair share aerially). I think that without him, we lose any ability to win these aerial throws. Also, I note that our set up at defensive corners has him as one of the 3 ‘key’ men. We line up with Martin, Kalas & Atkinson (or Baker if he’s in) along the 6 yard line. We then have 4 ‘blockers’ attempting to prevent the attacking runs. The 3 on the 6 yard line are essentially the main ball-winners and those expected to defend the corner and get their head on it if it’s in their area. I can see why Pearson is so keen, as he’s pretty much key in both those areas. And whilst I don’t actually like our defensive corner set up, I think I’m right in saying we haven’t conceded from a corner this season? Fevs? Edited December 4, 2021 by Harry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Top Robin said: That just about sums up our playing style....oh dear Go back to the start of the season. What style of play would you have spent pre-season drilling into us, given the resources available at that point? No-one is enjoying our current style. Pearson is simply being pragmatic, until such time he has the opportunity to make meaningful changes. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) I thought their keeper got a touch on it TBH, haven't seen the replay yet though. Hell of a save if he did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: I thought their keeper got a touch on it TBH, haven't seen the replay yet though. Hell of a save if he did! Just a bad miss (I think), but hardly the first or last striker to make a Horlicks of a good chance and generally did well. As others have said, able to come a bit deeper with Semenyo stretching them behind and he’s decent facing the opposition goal. He’s not perfect, but we’ll need to make do until doubtless we pick up Mitrovic and Solanke in January on frees. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Just a bad miss (I think), but hardly the first or last striker to make a Horlicks of a good chance and generally did well. As others have said, able to come a bit deeper with Semenyo stretching them behind and he’s decent facing the opposition goal. He’s not perfect, but we’ll need to make do until doubtless we pick up Mitrovic and Solanke in January on frees. Just watched the sky highlights and I still reckon their keeper touched it. I can't remember if we were given a corner though. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/bristol-city/12486525/bristol-city-1-0-derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) Weimann was worse than him today (and many other days) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 5 goals and 4 assists before Christmas. If you don’t like people that waste chances, lord knows Wells isn’t the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 He was great today, with Semenyo. Good pairing, both could of bagged goals, worked hard together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Just watched the sky highlights and I still reckon their keeper touched it. I can't remember if we were given a corner though. https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/bristol-city/12486525/bristol-city-1-0-derby My memory may well be failing me, but on BCTV think they also showed an angle that was straight on to the goal and from there looked like he just dragged it wide. No corner (… from memory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 59 minutes ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) Is this the same bloke , Wayne Rooney said about in his post match press conference . Chris Martin caused us problems all day , he uses his body really well. He’s a very good player. Is that the same bloke you’re moaning about ? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: I thought their keeper got a touch on it TBH, haven't seen the replay yet though. Hell of a save if he did! No he missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 In fairness to the original moan, I think both Weimann and Martin (and Vyner) had numerous irritating moments where they got their touch or pass or shot wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mozo said: In fairness to the original moan, I think both Weimann and Martin (and Vyner) had numerous irritating moments where they got their touch or pass or shot wrong. That’s a normal game for Weimann! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Pearson said he played well. Good enough for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, weepywall said: Huddersfield away is in May, surely he isn't already 1st name on that team sheet ?? Hull city sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Chris Martin has done well. Not his fault we haven’t replaced Diedhiou and not his fault the service to him is dire. He has scored important goals and important assists. He is definitely not the problem IMO. But also not the answer going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 51 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I didn’t see the first 70 mins today but Nige was very complimentary post-match, said he won all his (most) of his headers. He did. He played well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Chris Martin isn’t the player you want to be chasing long balls into the channels towards the corner flag. Have a quick search on youtube of Martins goals/assists in his time at Derby. Thats how he should be used but we don’t have the players to use him that way. Shame because as a wall to pass off on the edge of the area he could be very useful. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, Harry said: Also, I note that our set up at defensive corners has him as one of the 3 ‘key’ men. We line up with Martin, Kalas & Atkinson (or Baker if he’s in) along the 6 yard line. We then have 4 ‘blockers’ attempting to prevent the attacking runs. The 3 on the 6 yard line are essentially the main ball-winners and those expected to defend the corner and get their head on it if it’s in their area. I can see why Pearson is so keen, as he’s pretty much key in both those areas. And whilst I don’t actually like our defensive corner set up, I think I’m right in saying we haven’t conceded from a corner this season? Fevs? I had planned to do a “The Little Things” twitter analysis thread last week on defensive corners, but was so disappointed last weekend I postponed it. It will be making its way onto Twitter on Monday. Yes, essentially 1 goal conceded…O’Hare for Cov….from a headed clearance. Look out in twitter on Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Wayne Rooney praised him up in his after match interview. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Chris Martin has done well. Not his fault we haven’t replaced Diedhiou and not his fault the service to him is dire. He has scored important goals and important assists. He is definitely not the problem IMO. But also not the answer going forward. Lack of creativity is something Nige mentioned in a recent interview and its no surprise when James King and Williams are all missing thru injury. He’s having to use inexperienced guys in Scott, Bakinson and Massengo - all decent players but obviously lack the same level of know how. When everyone is available we’ll see a far more experienced midfield with more creativity for the likes of Martin, Wiemann and Semenyo. The second half of the season should be more thrilling. Edited December 4, 2021 by Robbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbury Red Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Yep, he did. I agree he did - as he has in many games … Whats frustrating is that whoever is playing alongside him doesn’t seem to know where his flick is going to go - get that bit right and Martin could get many more assists! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Martin works hard for the club in every game, with the club being in the situation it's in at the moment I'm glad we have a few players that put it all in on that pitch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Go back to the start of the season. What style of play would you have spent pre-season drilling into us, given the resources available at that point? No-one is enjoying our current style. Pearson is simply being pragmatic, until such time he has the opportunity to make meaningful changes. I hope so. Can't imagine Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea needing to rely on a lump of a centre forward to win long ball headers up top. Probably best to keep on the floor for decent football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 To the OP dream on if you think he’s going to be left out. We have no midweek games now so if Pearson wasn’t going to rest him when we were playing 3 games a week, he sure isn’t going to now. His general game was good today, poor miss though & for a side that creates relatively few chances we needed with his or Semenyo’s to go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Can't imagine Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea needing to rely on a lump of a centre forward to win long ball headers up top. Probably best to keep on the floor for decent football. I don’t disagree. But we don’t have De Bruyne, Salah, Kante and so on. We have a collection of misfits who week on week demonstrate an inability to pass the ball. The manager saw this in the summer and decided the most pragmatic way of grinding out results in the short term was something a little more direct and physical. It's a short term fix. Edited December 4, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Top Robin said: I hope so. Can't imagine Man City, Liverpool or Chelsea needing to rely on a lump of a centre forward to win long ball headers up top. Probably best to keep on the floor for decent football. Decent football on the deck when you have the players that can pass as well as keep hold of the ball. Not sure why how we play is relevant to how the top 3 in the prem play though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Taylor10 said: There seems to be a strange obsession with trying to remain negative after winning this season. Sometimes the way we play and lack of decent service doesn’t do him any favours. It wasn’t one of his better games today but he worked his socks off and was part of a decent team display and much needed win. Can’t ask for much else surely? We lost today right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I'd have given Weimann a poorer rating than Martin on today's showing. Invisible near most of the game aside from the cutback for Martins missed chance, was a step off the pace the entire 90. As others mention, if Antoine was match fit I reckon Martin would've gone off for Wells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 hours ago, mozo said: In fairness to the original moan, I think both Weimann and Martin (and Vyner) had numerous irritating moments where they got their touch or pass or shot wrong. But do the three mentioned not do that every game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, JonDolman said: I think the year option will be triggered. Pearson won't care about his age. As long as he has the right strike partner then he's still a decent player at this level imo. It's a cheap option relative to replacing him with a new signing. We could do an awful lot worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Made the point on another thread but. Having Semeno link well and take on his man, made me realise how poor Andi has been with regards to his general play the last 5 or so games, irrespective of goals. May very well be he just needs a rest but, was seeming invisible for huge parts of the game today. Once Tanner is fit, if we could play Antoine, Scott, Martin, that could be something to keep an eye on. Would then be a case of Martin leaving end of season, and possibly getting a new target man, more mobile maybe - if - we can get rid of some deadwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: I didn’t see the first 70 mins today but Nige was very complimentary post-match, said he won all his (most) of his headers. I can’t remember an aerial dual he lost today. He really shouldn’t be playing the amount of games he is at the moment at his age but I think he is still an important player to have at the club while we are bringing through a few of the younger players. His experience and professionalism will be key to their learning and at this level their are not many players who have been better. Pretty sure I read somewhere he is the 4th top goal scorer ever in championship football. I hope we can bring in a new striker in January of a similar ilk to Martin but realise that is probably clutching at straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, David Brent said: Pearson said he played well. Good enough for me. Hardly going to come out and say he was shite. He needs to be an option to play now and again not every week. Edited December 5, 2021 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: I don’t disagree. But we don’t have De Bruyne, Salah, Kante and so on. We have a collection of misfits who week on week demonstrate an inability to pass the ball. The manager saw this in the summer and decided the most pragmatic way of grinding out results in the short term was something a little more direct and physical. It's a short term fix. I agree and not only that it is a short term fix that looked a lot better with Semenyo, whatever people's thoughts on him, up there alongside him. Yes, they missed chances but if someone can tell me the last time we created FOUR presentable chances like that in a single half of football I'm all ears. The problem is not Chris Martin, full stop, it's Chris Martin with nobody alongside him that has a bit of pace. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Fuber said: Made the point on another thread but. Having Semeno link well and take on his man, made me realise how poor Andi has been with regards to his general play the last 5 or so games, irrespective of goals. May very well be he just needs a rest but, was seeming invisible for huge parts of the game today. Once Tanner is fit, if we could play Antoine, Scott, Martin, that could be something to keep an eye on. Would then be a case of Martin leaving end of season, and possibly getting a new target man, more mobile maybe - if - we can get rid of some deadwood. For 90% of that game Weimann had a total shocker yesterday. I think he would admit that himself if you spoke to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, 054123 said: I thought he won an awful lot of flicks ons today. I know he missed that chance and has no speed but I thought he held it up well at times. I saw a stat on Football league World (or something like that) very recently that had Chris Martin listed as having won the most headers of anyone in the whole championship so far this season. Edited December 5, 2021 by Bar BS3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I saw a stat on Football league World (or something like that) very recently that had Chris Martin listed as having won the most headers of anyone in the whole championship so far this season. Maybe we play the most long balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Super said: Maybe we play the most long balls. Perhaps so - I don't know. I just know the stat I saw, which contradicts many peoples view of his contribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Yesterday’s match showed what he can offer us, with someone powerful with pace along side him. IMO, watch other matches where we’ve struggled and he’s out numbered when the ball flys up to him, yesterday He had a partner to that worked with him. The movement 1st half was very good and TBO it should of been game over. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 12 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Pearson has decided on a certain style of play, one he thinks will get the most out of our limited resources. This style of play requires a physical presence up front. Martin is the only who can provide it. It ain't pretty. And it doesn't get the best out of Martin either. But he's been asked to play a certain way and he gives it 100%, even though he knows, and Pearson knows, it's not playing to his strengths. Picking Weimann and Wells together, or one of them up front on their own, would require us to play inch perfect pass and move attacking football. How do you think that would turn out??? 90 minutes on the back foot, that's how. Our style of play will improve in time, probably with very few of the current squad still here. Spot on. Until we have a group of footballers who can consistently play the standard of football that’s needed in the Championship we'll have to put up with Capn Dan waving his hands together and then taking a long punt. Like the post about Vyner my guess is that Capn Dan and Vyner et al have orders to lump it forward for Martin to wrestle the opponents central defenders. Are those the tactics of a Championship winning side? Or how Nige has operated before? Probably not but if we haven’t got footballing footballers on the pitch what options are there? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I think it suited Martin playing slightly deeper, knowing he had Antoine playing on the same man. For people saying he’s not as good as Fam, no way could Fam play that role, his link up play and flick ons were terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 13 hours ago, Taylor10 said: There seems to be a strange obsession with trying to remain negative after winning this season. Sometimes the way we play and lack of decent service doesn’t do him any favours. It wasn’t one of his better games today but he worked his socks off and was part of a decent team display and much needed win. Can’t ask for much else surely? It's what happens when people spend the time leading up to the game saying that we're rubbish and will lose (see the first couple of pages of the matchday thread as an example). When they're proved wrong they can't just accept it so have to find something, anything, to cling to. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: For 90% of that game Weimann had a total shocker yesterday. I think he would admit that himself if you spoke to him. well he did not get good service. it was a lucky 1-0 win. In years gone buy we would of been 3-0 up at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Henry said: I think it suited Martin playing slightly deeper, knowing he had Antoine playing on the same man. For people saying he’s not as good as Fam, no way could Fam play that role, his link up play and flick ons were terrible. I did notice though that on a few occasions, Martin got a flick on and Semenyo was nowhere near him. They need to work on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: I saw a stat on Football league World (or something like that) very recently that had Chris Martin listed as having won the most headers of anyone in the whole championship so far this season. Fact. 2 hours ago, Super said: Maybe we play the most long balls. We are up there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, mozo said: I did notice though that on a few occasions, Martin got a flick on and Semenyo was nowhere near him. They need to work on that. That’s true. Although the “big man/little man = long ball/flick on” is a low percentage tactic in terms of retaining possession. I think the tactic yesterday was for Martin to drop deep and Semenyo to spin in behind. It worked on occasion and looked to have the potential to be our best partnership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 15 hours ago, Redandproud said: What has that bloke got to do to get dropped, rubbish today,clear goal chance,and blasted it wide, maybe NP should rest him, but he won't, first on team sheet for Huddersfield (A) NP praised him after the game for winning every header. Looking again at his best goal scoring chance even if it had been on target they had a defender on the post who would have blocked it I think. Given the fact he had time and space he should have slotted it the other side and hit the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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