Port Said Red Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: From last night!!! Their Twitter seems a bit hit or miss. They won 5 0 but don't mention the the third goal at all. At the end they have given up talking about referring to Louis as a triallist and just use his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: I’m surprised the gas aren’t enquiring about him. He may suit them. Thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: I’m surprised the gas aren’t enquiring about him. He may suit them. Think they have plenty of strikers. Not really bothered about him going hopefully he goes on and has a good career though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Port Red said: It's good to see him doing well out there. That being said the standard is pretty low from the games I have seen out there, below league 2 level. I got thinking about players we have signed from the Irish leagues and how they have done. Patrick Hoban for example, scored over 100 goals in around 200 appearances in league of Ireland and managed 7 in 75 in the English leagues. Andy Smith is another, I don't think he ever scored a goal in English football, all I can remember of him was that he ran around a lot. Like many others on this thread I trust the club when it comes to moving on these players as you very rarely hear of them again. You are probably right. The fact that the Irish League doesn’t feature on this list of leagues yet Lg2 does, probably gives added weight too. I use this when looking at the relative strengths of players in other leagues. Seen a few comments that Timm Klose is past it because his performances following his return from a bad injury at Norwich in 19/20 weren’t that great. But, you have to look at Norwich, they were a struggling PL team at the time, so you have to factor in that. Then he spends a season at Basel (20/21). Basel finish 2nd in the Swiss top flight, albeit miles behind Young Boys, so how does the Swiss League compare to the Championship? A top team in Switzerland is probably mid-table (just top-half) in the Champ. So looking at that, signing Klose has some merits, as we are a bottom half Championship side. The bigger questions are his fitness, readiness, etc. His height and experience woukd be of use to us at the mo’ too. We can be too scientific on this, but its a useful way of looking at things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Port Red said: It's good to see him doing well out there. That being said the standard is pretty low from the games I have seen out there, below league 2 level. I got thinking about players we have signed from the Irish leagues and how they have done. Patrick Hoban for example, scored over 100 goals in around 200 appearances in league of Ireland and managed 7 in 75 in the English leagues. Andy Smith is another, I don't think he ever scored a goal in English football, all I can remember of him was that he ran around a lot. Like many others on this thread I trust the club when it comes to moving on these players as you very rarely hear of them again. I remember going to watch Limerick v Cork when I was out there a few years ago. The standout player was Rory Gaffney who was up front for Limerick, who came over here later that year to sign for Cambridge then spent a couple of years at the Gas and then Salford without ever being particularly prolific (avergaed about 1 goal in 4 across his time in England). He's back home now playing for Shamrock. Edited January 27, 2022 by Northern Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: You are probably right. The fact that the Irish League doesn’t feature on this list of leagues yet Lg2 does, probably gives added weight too. I use this when looking at the relative strengths of players in other leagues. Seen a few comments that Timm Klose is past it because his performances following his return from a bad injury at Norwich in 19/20 weren’t that great. But, you have to look at Norwich, they were a struggling PL team at the time, so you have to factor in that. Then he spends a season at Basel (20/21). Basel finish 2nd in the Swiss top flight, albeit miles behind Young Boys, so how does the Swiss League compare to the Championship? A top team in Switzerland is probably mid-table (just top-half) in the Champ. So looking at that, signing Klose has some merits, as we are a bottom half Championship side. The bigger questions are his fitness, readiness, etc. His height and experience woukd be of use to us at the mo’ too. We can be too scientific on this, but its a useful way of looking at things. That is rather awesome, its a shame it doesnt show the distribution of teams across that band though it does show you that all the championship sides would comfortably compete in the Scotish Premier though and the top teams like Fulham etc would compete quite well in the Italian or French top flight vs almost certainly will get religated from the English premier. I like that chart. Edited January 27, 2022 by Lorenzos Only Goal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: That is rather awesome, its a shame it doesnt show the distribution of teams across that band though it does show you that all the championship sides would comfortably compete in the Scotish Premier though and the top teams like Fulham etc would compete quite well in the Italian or French top flight vs almost certainly will get religated from the English premier. I like that chart. I like it too….but, Hold my beer! I thought I’d just give you the simpler version initially. You can see the full distribution in this one. Credit to Peter Loehmann, a Danish Sheffield Wednesday fan. He is a whizz with this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I like it too….but, Hold my beer! I thought I’d just give you the simpler version initially. You can see the full distribution in this one. Credit to Peter Loehmann, a Danish Sheffield Wednesday fan. He is a whizz with this stuff. Thats cool, I like it Scotish Premiership 2 glaswegian outliers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Thats cool, I like it Scotish Premiership 2 glaswegian outliers. Without offending the Swedes on OTIB, look at their top division. How much calibration was made for Engvall and Eliasson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Davefevs said: Without offending the Swedes on OTIB, look at their top division. How much calibration was made for Engvall and Eliasson? On the other hand, there have been lots of terrific Swedish players plying their trade throughout Europe. Many of these will have started in domestic football, but rapidly outgrew it. Maybe the club were hoping we'd found a new Ibrahomovic and Ljungberg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 27/01/2022 at 22:41, Davefevs said: Without offending the Swedes on OTIB, look at their top division. How much calibration was made for Engvall and Eliasson? If we assume the outlier is Malmo, then IFK Göteborg & IFK Norrköping are in the right of that cluster meaning Engvall having scored 16 in 64 was a massive gamble considering that league is closer to L1 than the championship so it would be a bit like signing a prospect from L1 with that record and would explain why he struggled as much as he did. Edited January 29, 2022 by Lorenzos Only Goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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