NcnsBcfc Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just going through the list of players that are either entering their last year, or we have 1 year options on (not a particularly great negotiating position) at the end of the current season. .When you consider the amount of players going into their last year of contract next season, it certainly is something that the press haven't picked up on. In essence we are either negotiating or selling Kalas, MOL, Cundy, Massengo, Semenyeo, Bentley, Martin, Wells, KP, JD, Vyner, Moore, and COD amongst others I've missed of course (Bakinson , Baker ). I know there are a few option years in that list. But we still need them really to commit to us beyond that option year or they walk for next to nothing. It's not like last summer, when the list of departures almost wrote themselves. There are key players here, that we will need to build the team around; at a time where FFP (in it's current form) might be hitting us hardest. The players we don't want are not going to be easy to shift either, as their contracts are at a level not consistent with either the current market or their level of performance. I don't envy Richard Gould this summer. It's going to be a difficult job balancing the demands of the players, with the necessity to no doubt still cut back even further from our current position. we're not alone in this of course. But any new signings would have to be factored in with new contracts for the list above. Even the players leaving in the summer at the end of their contracts will be getting some form of loyalty bonuses; and players going into the last year of their contracts are normally paid at their highest rate. That's probably why the wage bill still managed to go up last season? Tough times ahead.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 The only positive is most other clubs won’t be able to offer any of them especially ludicrous contracts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted January 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: The only positive is most other clubs won’t be able to offer any of them especially ludicrous contracts True, but there may be some that are not asking them to take the type of wage cuts that we are proposing. We did an excellent job with Weimann last year, on his contract. Not sure a number of those that we want to keep won't get better offers. Time to get creative...... Edited January 24, 2022 by NcnsBcfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: The only positive is most other clubs won’t be able to offer any of them especially ludicrous contracts Yep, and they will’ve seen from Weimann and Pato’s experiences that they are gonna be taking a pay-cut at some point…at least the ones of an age where they’ve OTIB’s ku had their best contract already, and it’s downhill from here on in. I get the sense of a pretty happy camp at the moment, but it would be nice to start seeing some pens put to paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NcnsBcfc said: True, but there may be some that are not asking them to take the type of wage cuts that we are proposing. We did an excellent job with Weimann last year, on his contract. Not sure a number of those that we want to keep won't get better offers. Time to get creative...... Andi’s goal bonuses probably mean he’s earning more now than ever. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Out of the names you listed my first priority would negotiating with semenyo, Massengo and probably max O’Leary . I like Kalas but wouldn’t be to fussed if he was sold to free up wages , Martin maybe give another year as a back up striker but I’m not sure if we are gonna be able to afford the calibre of striker us as fans would like to push us forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Out of the names you listed my first priority would negotiating with semenyo, Massengo and probably max O’Leary . I like Kalas but wouldn’t be to fussed if he was sold to free up wages , Martin maybe give another year as a back up striker but I’m not sure if we are gonna be able to afford the calibre of striker us as fans would like to push us forward. A bit difficult to sell someone who is out of contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: A bit difficult to sell someone who is out of contract. Kalas isn’t OOC this summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 Here’s the latest contract status of our squad: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Here’s the latest contract status of our squad: So this summer the list kind of writes itself IMO. I guess we might see King, Owers, and Simpson depart - although I could easily see one of King or Simpson move into a coaching role with the youth teams if that's where they see themselves post-playing. Question marks are over Martin and COD I'd say. I'm sure there are arguments for giving each of those two another contract, although I'd say it's most likely that COD leaves, and Martin is given a year renewal. It's next summer that's the big one, and we need to be thinking about offering new contracts to a few of those. Semenyo has definitely earned a new contract, and personally I wouldn't mind waving bye to Wells asap and using some of those saved wages to improve Antoine's deal. Kalas seems happy with us, I guess that one comes down to the pound signs really. Janneh as well I'd like renewed, I think he has some more to offer us, Benarous as well. HNM is a curious one, and I don't know what my opinion is there. You'd think that one of Bentley or O'Leary is getting renewed, and the other is sold, I can't see us keeping both past summer 2023. No strong opinion on anyone else really, I'd say all of them are replaceable. In all cases I would much prefer extensions (that remove the options) over exercising 1 year options. The options look good, but often have the feel of 'we're not sure what to do here, no one really wants to commit, so lets extend.' Edited January 24, 2022 by ExiledAjax 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: So this summer the list kind of writes itself IMO. I guess we might see King, Owers, and Simpson depart - although I could easily see one of King or Simpson move into a coaching role with the youth teams if that's where they see themselves post-playing. Question marks are over Martin and COD I'd say. I'm sure there are arguments for giving each of those two another contract, although I'd say it's most likely that COD leaves, and Martin is given a year renewal. It's next summer that's the big one, and we need to be thinking about offering new contracts to a few of those. Semenyo has definitely earned a new contract, and personally I wouldn't mind waving bye to Wells asap and using some of those saved wages to improve Antoine's deal. Kalas seems happy with us, I guess that one comes down to the pound signs really. Janneh as well I'd like renewed, I think he has some more to offer us, Benarous as well. HNM is a curious one, and I don't know what my opinion is there. You'd think that one of Bentley or O'Leary is getting renewed, and the other is sold, I can't see us keeping both past summer 2023. No strong opinion on anyone else really, I'd say all of them are replaceable. In all cases I would much prefer extensions (that remove the options) over exercising 1 year options. The options look good, but often have the feel of 'we're not sure what to do here, no one really wants to commit, so lets extend.' Hopefully we will start to see the pieces of a jigsaw come together over the coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 24, 2022 Report Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said: The only positive is most other clubs won’t be able to offer any of them especially ludicrous contracts If Derby get out of the mire, you can bet they will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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