Red Army 75 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-financial-fair-play-6669606 Considering our finances would this be a idea people could get behind. I would absolutely hate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Approach Butcombe about calling it 'Ashton (Press) Gate' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmo Posted February 16, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 It will always be Ashton Gate to me, so not too bothered personally. 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jimmo said: It will always be Ashton Gate to me, so not too bothered personally. Completely agree. Doesn't matter if its sold to a company for marketing it'll always be Ashton Gate to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 I'm all for selling the naming rights. Here's a potential opportunity. We could flog the name to the makers of the Ashton Driveway Gate. How does Ashton Gate Stadium sound? https://www.woodensupplies.co.uk/p/the-ashton/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-financial-fair-play-6669606 Considering our finances would this be a idea people could get behind. I would absolutely hate it Thats fine, but if the extra cash helps us stay within FFP limits, in order to fund new signings and provide the contractual wherewithal to keep our starlets, and avoid annual relegation struggles then I'm prepared to take it. Edited February 16, 2022 by Curr Avon 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Thats fine, but if the extra cash helps us stay within FFP limits, in order to fund new signings and provide the contractual wherewithal to keep our starlets, and avoid annual relegation struggles then I'm prepared to take it. I can’t argue with that. Probably just the nostalgia in me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Doesn't matter one jot, Ask the fans what they call it that's all that matters Did Newcastle call their home the sports direct arena or St James Park? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Thatchers Stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Wouldn't bother me if it brought in some decent money, always has been and always will be the "city ground" to me, anyone know what sort of money stadium sponsorship brings in ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 It would be interesting to know exactly how much naming rights would be worth to allow an informed decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Has this been held in reserve by our owners, should we get close to breaking FFP? Can an owner sponsor his own stadium? If so, Ashton Gate Bristol Sports Stadium. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rich said: Has this been held in reserve by our owners, should we get close to breaking FFP? Can an owner sponsor his own stadium? If so, Ashton Gate Bristol Sports Stadium. He can but it would have to be at market value, same as if one of his companies sponsored kits etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 With a new stadium, like the emirates, or the etihad, thats all they have ever been known as. Ashton gate has had that name for 100 years, and officially renaming it wont change what people call it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everreddy Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 JL is so full of bright marketing ideas. His earlier brainwave was rebranding City as “The Robins”! Why? Cos we wear red shirts, stoopid!!! Call the club and the stadium what you like - as long as it brings in the dosh! So much for our unique “identity”!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) I don't like the idea of renaming AG but then I don't like the idea of in no particular order, one or more of a Transfer Embargo, a points deduction, an EFL Business Plan which includes limits or can interfere with new contracts for existing players to name a few- of the Embargo types the one that is the real killer is that of Professional Standing. 22 minutes ago, Rich said: Has this been held in reserve by our owners, should we get close to breaking FFP? Can an owner sponsor his own stadium? If so, Ashton Gate Bristol Sports Stadium. Yes, same can be done for individual stands plus indeed the HPC and perhaps anything else we can think of within reason. If any related party though it needs to be Fair Value etc. Benchmarking and so on. I believe that Sheffield Wednesday and their tie-up with Chansiri and his related companies for sponsorship are collectively £1.5-2m per season. As a comparable it maybe similar, would help but by no means is a gamechanger. EDIT: Accounts to July 2018 said £1.27m, and that for a 14 month period! Probably more like between £1-1.5m per season. Edited February 16, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure naming rights would make a great deal of difference. I suppose it depends on the sponsor but a club in the championship would probably be somewhere between 200k and 1m I would think. Maybe 100k for the HPC. https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/premier-league-stadium-naming-rights-values/ Edited February 16, 2022 by bcfc01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't like the idea of renaming AG but then I don't like the idea of in no particular order, one or more of a Transfer Embargo, a points deduction, an EFL Business Plan which includes limits or can interfere with new contracts for existing players to name a few- of the Embargo types the one that is the real killer is that of Professional Standing. Yes, same can be done for individual stands plus indeed the HPC and perhaps anything else we can think of within reason. If any related party though it needs to be Fair Value etc. Benchmarking and so on. I believe that Sheffield Wednesday and their tie-up with Chansiri and his sponsorship offers are collectively £1.5-2m per season. As a comparable it maybe similar, would help but by no means is a gamechanger. If Bristol Sport sponsor the stadium, there would virtually be no limit to the amount of sponsorship. But what would be the point ? They'd get nothing out of it commercially, although maybe a one year sponsorship to get the club out of FFP issues is feasible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: If Bristol Sport sponsor the stadium, there would virtually be no limit to the amount of sponsorship. But what would be the point ? They'd get nothing out of it commercially, although maybe a one year sponsorship to get the club out of FFP issues is feasible ? Maybe. What would be the Upper Limit under FFP what with rules on RPTs that we could include for that purpose? In theory I suppose we could put full whack through the Accounts but the excess above Fair Value would of course be excluded for FFP purposes. That aside, a short term fix, maybe. Edited February 16, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) I'm a little unconvinced too about Jon Lansdown and his seven other clubs claim. Granted he has access to information that the rest of us don't, but I believe a few of those could have an asterisk by the potential fail at this stage- as in could go either way. Feels like a) There is a bit of optimism bias and b) He is perhaps looking to stake out a position early, perhaps to increase a bit of public pressure on the EFL for some further amendments. b) Feels a bad idea too. Edited February 16, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, East Londoner said: It would be interesting to know exactly how much naming rights would be worth to allow an informed decision I phoned up Derby and asked and they said between £500,000,000 and a billion a season 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Maybe. What would be the Upper Limit under FFP what with rules on RPTs that we could include for that purpose? In theory I suppose we could put full whack through the Accounts but the excess above Fair Value would of course be excluded for FFP purposes. That aside, a short term fix, maybe. I don't think there are any limits per se, but "fair market value" comes into play. I suppose that means "is it commensurate with others of similar standing." If so, then the most sponsorship expected within FFP would be around 2m, but I don't think its been tested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 ‘A rose by any other name would smell as sweet’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, steveybadger said: I phoned up Derby and asked and they said between £500,000,000 and a billion a season The Pride of Sports Direct Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron-Bcfc Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 It would be a bit grim hearing our ground in the media constantly referred to the “Huboo Stadium” or the “Dunder Arena”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I don't think there are any limits per se, but "fair market value" comes into play. I suppose that means "is it commensurate with others of similar standing." If so, then the most sponsorship expected within FFP would be around 2m, but I don't think its been tested. That's what I was trying to get at, but you put it better! Surely the Chansiri companies albeit not specifically Stadium naming rights are a precedent of sorts? Birmingham Trillion Trophy Stadium and possibly Training Ground did not translate into trillions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aaron-Bcfc said: It would be a bit grim hearing our ground in the media constantly referred to the “Huboo Stadium” or the “Dunder Arena”. On the other hand, when naming the training ground, any name other than the" High Performance Centre" would be acceptable.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Call it what you want, will still be the Gate to me. Mind you, I still go on my holiday from Lulsgate, and still go down Broadmead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said: Thatchers Stadium? The Woke will not it Boycott Thatchers cider over director’s role in Edward Colston society, say activists | News | The Times Edited February 16, 2022 by Ciderhead433 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted February 16, 2022 Report Share Posted February 16, 2022 Although I'm sure we would take the piss, no one really cares surely? A huge majority of football fans call grounds with an historical name, by that name. It's only new grounds like The Etihad etc that get called by the sponsors name. It's about as relevant as being upset by having a kit sponsor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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