Parking alongside Dovecote.

[A Horse With No Name]

Not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere but just a heads up to anyone who parks on the road alongside the Dovecote Inn, now called The Ashton, this week No Parking signs have been erected along the entire stretch, so beware your usual parking spot is no more.

Edited March 18, 2022 by The Horse With No Name

[Clevedon Red]

£1.20 to park in Ashton Court.

[TDarwall]

But during winter i think that carpark closes early.

[westonred]

It's as if the local council don't want people attending sporting events in Bristol

What they should do is put long stay P&D machines along there at a reasonable price say £4.00 a day then people wouldnt mind paying that and the Council would get some revenue. The council will say its all about road safety which is bolox it's all about generating revenue from fines and parking charges 

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, westonred said:

It's as if the local council don't want people attending sporting events in Bristol

What they should do is put long stay P&D machines along there at a reasonable price say £4.00 a day then people wouldnt mind paying that and the Council would get some revenue. The council will say its all about road safety which is bolox it's all about generating revenue from fines and parking charges 

I can’t for the life of me understand why the Long Ashton park & ride isn’t used for match day.

Baffling.

[westonred]

17 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I can’t for the life of me understand why the Long Ashton park & ride isn’t used for match day.

Baffling.

Because it is a private concern and BCC wont get any revenue out of it and the private company who run the site and the bus comapny are in partnership and only get revenue from people who use the buses to get into town. If people used it for football they would just walk to the ground and no therefore no revenue is generated

[GrahamC]

9 minutes ago, westonred said:

Because it is a private concern and BCC wont get any revenue out of it and the private company who run the site and the bus comapny are in partnership and only get revenue from people who use the buses to get into town. If people used it for football they would just walk to the ground and no therefore no revenue is generated

Well find a compromise then, because it’s virtually empty on a Saturday afternoon & the streets around BS3 are gridlocked.

It shouldn’t solely be about the council making money, it should be about congestion as well.

[westonred]

19 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Well find a compromise then, because it’s virtually empty on a Saturday afternoon & the streets around BS3 are gridlocked.

It shouldn’t solely be about the council making money, it should be about congestion as well.

I agree there ought to be a compromise but there wont unless BCC get some payment out of it..  If they wanted to sort out the congestion side of tings they would subsidise the Park and Ride for use by sports fans free of charge on matchdays freeing the streets but will they No

Also i think one of the problems is the Park and Ride is in North Somerset so BCC have their hands tied

Edited March 18, 2022 by westonred

[A Horse With No Name]

52 minutes ago, westonred said:

Because it is a private concern and BCC wont get any revenue out of it and the private company who run the site and the bus comapny are in partnership and only get revenue from people who use the buses to get into town. If people used it for football they would just walk to the ground and no therefore no revenue is generated

It may be me being dim, but what is stopping people doing just that. Surely even if they have multiple cameras, they cant ensure that everyone who parks there gets on a bus.

[westonred]

10 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

It may be me being dim, but what is stopping people doing just that. Surely even if they have multiple cameras, they cant ensure that everyone who parks there gets on a bus.

There are lots of CCTV cameras monitoring the area incuding the vehicle registrations. They won't be able to catch everyone who walks out of there not using the bus service but probably catch enough to make it a deterrent for others not to risk it

[RedRock]

No idea how the charging system works nowadays.

Assume you can catch a bus and get off at the first stop if they are monitoring people leaving the site on foot. 
 

Has and, by the looks of things, will always be a monument to the ineptness of public and private sector interests in and around Bristol. Can’t think of any other City, Town, Hamlet in the entire Country that would have a massive car park lie idle which is located a stones throw from a a major entertainment venue. 

Thought the idea of having a mayor was to bang thick heads together and solve issues like this….clearly, he is as thick as the rest of them involved in this long -running farce.

You would have thought officialdom would have flagged up these new parking restrictions. Probably the ‘can’t be arsed’ attitude that applies to resolving the LA park and ride applies equally to all parking matters associated with the use of the stadium. 

[westonred]

12 minutes ago, RedRock said:

No idea how the charging system works nowadays.

Assume you can catch a bus and get off at the first stop if they are monitoring people leaving the site on foot. 
 

Has and, by the looks of things, will always be a monument to the ineptness of public and private sector interests in and around Bristol. Can’t think of any other City, Town, Hamlet in the entire Country that would have a massive car park lie idle which is located a stones throw from a a major entertainment venue. 

Thought the idea of having a mayor was to bang thick heads together and solve issues like this….clearly, he is as thick as the rest of them involved in this long -running farce.

You would have thought officialdom would have flagged up these new parking restrictions. Probably the ‘can’t be arsed’ attitude that applies to resolving the LA park and ride applies equally to all parking matters associated with the use of the stadium. 

I think Colin Sextoy when he was at the club tried to get permission for the Park and Ride to be used by City fans but there were to many obstactles in the way The car park shuts at 9pm so who would pay for the staff to stay on after 9pm for evening games  Also there is the issue dealing with David Lloyd Leisure who own the land BCC NSC and Metrobus this is why it had never been used for stadium parking

Shame really using those 1,500 spaces would certainly help clear the clogged up streets around the ground    

Edited March 18, 2022 by westonred

[Port Said Red]

41 minutes ago, westonred said:

There are lots of CCTV cameras monitoring the area incuding the vehicle registrations. They won't be able to catch everyone who walks out of there not using the bus service but probably catch enough to make it a deterrent for others not to risk it

Lots of CCTV cameras but do they actually work? The ones at the Portway P&R were not when I had the Catalytic Converter cut from my car a couple of years ago. The investigating officer said they had the same problem in Brislington and at Bath as well, i.e. it's cheaper to put up dummy cameras than the real thing. 

I think they should be done for false advertising when they claim their sites are "safe and secure".

[P'head Red]

This is getting ridiculous now. Parked there for years, plenty of space for cars and buses to get by without being dangerous. What happens in the unlikely event we make it to the premiership one day, it will be a parking nightmare for games! 

[tin]

If you get there before 1.30, there’s usually free parking on the grass verge off the slip road toward the LA P&R. Limited spaces, mind. 

It is mental that the P&R isn’t used on matchdays. I won’t pay £10 a game to park anywhere out of principle.

[Never to the dark side]

Suggestions

Put up those portable LED signs around the area saying heavy match day traffic from 16:30pm

Sign at KFC retail park saying  heavy traffic in the area from 16:30pm giving the customers time to get out of the car park

Coming from Hotwells on the cumberland basin where the traffic bears towards the left towards ashton Gate to be blocked off forcing drivers towards the ring road

use PARSON STREET if you can

[CloudyThatchers]

1 hour ago, P'head Red said:

This is getting ridiculous now. Parked there for years, plenty of space for cars and buses to get by without being dangerous. What happens in the unlikely event we make it to the premiership one day, it will be a parking nightmare for games! 

 

Have no fear, by the time we ever reach the premiership Marvs underground  system will be in place!

[East End Old Boy]

1 minute ago, CloudyThatchers said:

 

Have no fear, by the time we ever reach the premiership Marvs underground  system will be in place!

And the Portishead railway line will be open!

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 hour ago, CloudyThatchers said:

 

Have no fear, by the time we ever reach the premiership Marvs underground  system will be in place!

 

1 hour ago, East End Old Boy said:

And the Portishead railway line will be open!

Nah, we`ll all be flying to the game on individual jet packs.

[Waconda]

9 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said:

It may be me being dim, but what is stopping people doing just that. Surely even if they have multiple cameras, they cant ensure that everyone who parks there gets on a bus.

I don't myself but do know people who have parked there on game day with no problems, as you say how can it be proved.

[Homer Simpson]

6 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

 

Nah, we`ll all be flying to the game on individual jet packs.

Be careful, Tomlins penalty is still up there somewhere. 

[pillred]

10 hours ago, westonred said:

Because it is a private concern and BCC wont get any revenue out of it and the private company who run the site and the bus comapny are in partnership and only get revenue from people who use the buses to get into town. If people used it for football they would just walk to the ground and no therefore no revenue is generated

Surely BCC could employ 2 men to collect the money on match days (nights) as you entered the park and ride if you were just going to attend the match and give over say 500 spaces in a specific area to matchday parking at £10 = £5000 kerching!

Edited March 19, 2022 by pillred
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[pillred]

1 hour ago, East End Old Boy said:

And the Portishead railway line will be open!

More chance of getting there on the back of a flying Pig.

[the red rules]

16 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said:

Not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere but just a heads up to anyone who parks on the road alongside the Dovecote Inn, now called The Ashton, this week No Parking signs have been erected along the entire stretch, so beware your usual parking spot is no more.

Still the smyth arms to me, there again I've got to start calling the enclosure the lansdown.

[weepywall]

2 hours ago, CloudyThatchers said:

 

Have no fear, by the time we ever reach the premiership Marvs underground  system will be in place!

By the time we reach the PL we will probably be able to transport ourselves from home to the ground like they do on Startrek 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, pillred said:

Surely BCC could employ 2 men to collect the money on match days (nights) as you entered the park and ride if you were just going to attend the match and give over say 500 spaces in a specific area to matchday parking at £10 = £5000 kerching!

Guy from who ran the Bristol Zoo car park on behalf on Bristol City Council (cough, cough) has applied to run the scheme.

 

(I understand there are plans to make a film about it, can’t remember which Bristolian actor is involved in the project)

[Redandproud]

4 hours ago, P'head Red said:

This is getting ridiculous now. Parked there for years, plenty of space for cars and buses to get by without being dangerous. What happens in the unlikely event we make it to the premiership one day, it will be a parking nightmare for games! 

Yes, the same as  Winterstoke road ,before double yellows,no problems parking plenty of space for passing cars &buses, also Ashton Gate underpass,no problems, then the council puts restrictions, typical BCC,

[GrahamC]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Guy from who ran the Bristol Zoo car park on behalf on Bristol City Council (cough, cough) has applied to run the scheme.

 

(I understand there are plans to make a film about it, can’t remember which Bristolian actor is involved in the project)

Urban myth, mate.

Saw an interview last week with West Brom’s new Chief Exec he said one of the reasons fans were saying their gates were down, was the amount of roadworks near The Hawthorns.

My immediate reaction was you should come to South Bristol if you want to see roadworks..

Definitely an area where Gould should be engaging with BCC, North Somerset & Karin Smyth, it is a disgrace.

[NorthBris_Southstand]

Get on yer bike lads, plenty of free bike parking spare outside the south stand

Edited March 19, 2022 by NorthBris_Southstand

[westonred]

2 hours ago, pillred said:

Surely BCC could employ 2 men to collect the money on match days (nights) as you entered the park and ride if you were just going to attend the match and give over say 500 spaces in a specific area to matchday parking at £10 = £5000 kerching!

It doesnt belong to BCC so they cannot put staff in place or collect money The land comes under North Somerset district but part of it is owned by David LLoyd leisure and the car park run by Metrobus this is why it is not being used 

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Urban myth, mate.

Saw an interview last week with West Brom’s new Chief Exec he said one of the reasons fans were saying their gates were down, was the amount of roadworks near The Hawthorns.

My immediate reaction was you should come to South Bristol if you want to see roadworks..

Definitely an area where Gould should be engaging with BCC, North Somerset & Karin Smyth, it is a disgrace.

I always thought that until I heard a radio interview with Joe Sims, although googled it and appears you are are right.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/there-truth-behind-urban-myth-4941098

[westonred]

18 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Urban myth, mate.

Saw an interview last week with West Brom’s new Chief Exec he said one of the reasons fans were saying their gates were down, was the amount of roadworks near The Hawthorns.

My immediate reaction was you should come to South Bristol if you want to see roadworks..

Definitely an area where Gould should be engaging with BCC, North Somerset & Karin Smyth, it is a disgrace.

It's not mate it is true. I was manager of car park collections for BCC at the time. The day he didnt turn up for work someone from the zoo rang me to ask if i could send another car park attendant to collect the takings as 'Joe Bloggs' hadn't turned up that day. I told him that it was the Zoos responsibility and nothing to do with BCC. I immediatly contacted our Audit department who found out that this guy didnt work for the Zoo and was a fraudster.  I think that BCC and the Zoo are both embarressed about the situation and came up with the story that it is just an urban myth

Edited March 19, 2022 by westonred

[FForbes]

Oh dear, no spaces left along there at 1.30 !!

[italian dave]

So, are they stopping parking along that road by the Ashton or not? 

No sign of any restrictions today. 

Was it just temporary restrictions one day last week??

[FForbes]

A clearway sign as you turn into the road

[italian dave]

1 minute ago, FForbes said:

A clearway sign as you turn into the road

Gonna be a lot of tickets this evening then?! 

[Lanterne Rouge]

4 minutes ago, FForbes said:

A clearway sign as you turn into the road

Ah. The good old clearway sign. Normally hidden in a hedge and you can`t see it when it`s dark.

Kerching!

[Ziderarmy]

8 hours ago, westonred said:

It's not mate it is true. I was manager of car park collections for BCC at the time. The day he didnt turn up for work someone from the zoo rang me to ask if i could send another car park attendant to collect the takings as 'Joe Bloggs' hadn't turned up that day. I told him that it was the Zoos responsibility and nothing to do with BCC. I immediatly contacted our Audit department who found out that this guy didnt work for the Zoo and was a fraudster.  I think that BCC and the Zoo are both embarressed about the situation and came up with the story that it is just an urban myth

I’m calling bull shite here! 

[westonred]

48 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said:

I’m calling bull shite here! 

I dont really care what you believe mate i know the truth and ive just told it 

[Ziderarmy]

7 minutes ago, westonred said:

I dont really care what you believe mate i know the truth and ive just told it 

Were you baffled as stories suggest? 

[westonred]

8 minutes ago, ziderheadarmy said:

Were you baffled as stories suggest? 

I dont see why you think i am lieing what have i got to gain by making this up I am not a billy big bollox story teller trying to get attention if you dont want to believe it thats up to you but anyone who knows me know si am no liar

[Ziderarmy]

1 minute ago, westonred said:

I dont see why you think i am lieing what have i got to gain by making this up I am not a billy big bollox story teller trying to get attention if you dont want to believe it thats up to you but anyone who knows me know si am no liar

Ok mate. I’m glad it’s true personally.  Who would you like to play you if it goes on to become a Hollywood blockbuster? 

[westonred]

Just now, ziderheadarmy said:

Ok mate. I’m glad it’s true personally.  Who would you like to play you if it goes on to become a Hollywood blockbuster? 

Well i would like Brad Pitt but it'll be more like his cousin Cess Pit

[E.G.Red]

23 hours ago, westonred said:

Because it is a private concern and BCC wont get any revenue out of it and the private company who run the site and the bus comapny are in partnership and only get revenue from people who use the buses to get into town. If people used it for football they would just walk to the ground and no therefore no revenue is generated

Charge everyone £4.50 and then if you get on the bus, swap the parking ticket for a bus ticket. 

[DT The Optimist]

FWIW. 
I have been parking at the park ride for about 4 years….  Simply NOT an issue. 
years ago used to have a guy  on the gate and the ‘office’  where the seating area and loos are was manned.  No more. That finished donkey years ago.  
 15 minute stroll to the ground.  
there is no cctv…spying on anyone getting on or off buses.  Not policed at all.  Each home game I see the same cars  & fans parking up and strolling  out of park and ride to the stadium…. I have always been perplexed by cars being parked on the grass verges outside the park and ride..  best kept secret, there you go…
 

[ralphindevon]

11 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

FWIW. 
I have been parking at the park ride for about 4 years….  Simply NOT an issue. 
years ago used to have a guy  on the gate and the ‘office’  where the seating area and loos are was manned.  No more. That finished donkey years ago.  
 15 minute stroll to the ground.  
there is no cctv…spying on anyone getting on or off buses.  Not policed at all.  Each home game I see the same cars  & fans parking up and strolling  out of park and ride to the stadium…. I have always been perplexed by cars being parked on the grass verges outside the park and ride..  best kept secret, there you go…
 

I thought this was the case but assumed something had changed reading this thread, until I got to your post.

 

[Redtucks]

I park in the P&R and can get a bus to where the ten pin bowling alley used to be, i.e. second stop.

I've got a bus pass so it costs me me **** all.

If there ain't a bus available, I walk.

So whether I get on a bus or not, nobody is losing any money.

What is the problem with that?

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by Redtucks

[myol'man]

On 19/03/2022 at 10:31, Davefevs said:

Guy from who ran the Bristol Zoo car park on behalf on Bristol City Council (cough, cough) has applied to run the scheme.

 

He now runs the disabled exit gate at the memorial ground 

[Big C]

On 18/03/2022 at 23:24, westonred said:

I think Colin Sextoy when he was at the club tried to get permission for the Park and Ride to be used by City fans but there were to many obstactles in the way The car park shuts at 9pm so who would pay for the staff to stay on after 9pm for evening games  Also there is the issue dealing with David Lloyd Leisure who own the land BCC NSC and Metrobus this is why it had never been used for stadium parking

Shame really using those 1,500 spaces would certainly help clear the clogged up streets around the ground    

Less of an issue for evening games though as the parking restrictions around the ground are only till 5pm aren't they?

[Red Army 75]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/council-finally-considering-funding-ashton-6896224

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/council-finally-considering-funding-ashton-6896224

Interesting.

I don’t think I ever realised how the club avoided the triggering of that planning requirement to fund a parking scheme.

I’m not sure whether this would be good news or bad news. If “matchday parking scheme” simply means even more restrictions around the ground then that’s clearly going to do nothing to help the bigger picture. As Marvin R acknowledges, it will just move the problem elsewhere. If it means something constructive, like getting the park and ride into proper use, that could be really positive. 

[Dredd]

Sounds like Marvs trying to get some votes ahead of next month. No problem with a match day parking scheme if the council provide an alternative for fans coming from across the city. Get on your bikes or take 2/3 buses isn’t really an option for a lot of fans

[italian dave]

20 minutes ago, Dredd said:

Sounds like Marvs trying to get some votes ahead of next month. No problem with a match day parking scheme if the council provide an alternative for fans coming from across the city. Get on your bikes or take 2/3 buses isn’t really an option for a lot of fans

Am I right in thinking that there are no elections as such in Bristol - just the referendum on whether Bristol continues to have a mayor at all?

Appreciate that doesn’t detract from the point you’re making, although it’s probably more about what a Mayor can do, rather than what any individual or party wants to do? 

[View from the Dolman]

8 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Am I right in thinking that there are no elections as such in Bristol - just the referendum on whether Bristol continues to have a mayor at all?

Correct - it's just the referendum in Bristol.