AFC Bournemouth away match day thread

[WolfOfWestStreet]

Bournemouth play the plucky underdog card with a massive hard on but they've been a Pay 2 Win team for a long time. You could fit the whole of Dean Court practically in the lansdown stand. Rhe championship is an uneven track, I'm desperate for a wage cap. Let's really see who is a good coach then. 

[bexhill reds]

4 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

Unless it's an exceptional offer. He would stay. As he has said on several occasions he likes it here, and for some players thats all they want, reasonable pay and enjoy who they play for. 

Agreed, he’s settled here, well respected by fans and management, has had his best ever scoring season in a mid-lower table team, just been called up for his national team and is approaching 30 if not there already. I honestly don’t think he’d go looking for a move, certainly not within English football.

[Waconda]

11 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

Unless it's an exceptional offer. He would stay. As he has said on several occasions he likes it here, and for some players thats all they want, reasonable pay and enjoy who they play for. 

Yes agreed but losing most weeks with little hope of improvement next season and the opportunity of an improved 3 year deal at an actual competitive side might change his mind.

Especially as he is back on the National teams radar.

[Supersonic Robin]

1 minute ago, billywedlock said:

It doesn’t actually . Far far from it . Finally we are on the correct path . Huge steps forward . It is incredibly exciting .  Recruitment still an issue but slowly transforming . 

Out of interest, what makes you so confident of that?

 

 

[Waconda]

9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Bournemouth play the plucky underdog card with a massive hard on but they've been a Pay 2 Win team for a long time. You could fit the whole of Dean Court practically in the lansdown stand. Rhe championship is an uneven track, I'm desperate for a wage cap. Let's really see who is a good coach then. 

Nathan Jones, Ryan Lowe, Mark Robins, Gary Rowett and Neil Critchley all doing well without parachute payments.

It is possible to be at least be competitive.

[WolfOfWestStreet]

50 minutes ago, Waconda said:

Nathan Jones, Ryan Lowe, Mark Robins, Gary Rowett and Neil Critchley all doing well without parachute payments.

It is possible to be at least be competitive.

I agree. I'm not a Pearson fan. 

[italian dave]

3 hours ago, Baba Yaga said:

Interesting listening on radio it didn't sound too bad yet opinions on here quite a bit different. Remember the reverse fixture was pretty frustrating so at least it was a bit more of a contest today. Good to see Conway get an assist.

I think the difference between the two games was mostly about Bournemouth. 

There’s no doubt (in my mind) that they are a great side to watch. They play some lovely passing football, they have some great players, from back to front they know exactly what to do when, who’s going to be making a run where and when to play it.

They pass quickly and with ease, whereas we struggle to put two passes together: either because we just misinterpreted it, or because we have to take two or three more touches while we look up, hope someone is making themselves available, figure out who it is, take another touch because there’s no-one available, and then the move breaks down. So disjointed.

That night at the Gate everything they did just seemed to flow, seemed to come off. Today they didn’t quite make that happen every time. Marginal differences but just enough to mean that passes don’t quite work or they gave us just enough time to get a body in the way.

[Red-Robbo]

7 hours ago, Waconda said:

Nathan Jones, Ryan Lowe, Mark Robins, Gary Rowett and Neil Critchley all doing well without parachute payments.

It is possible to be at least be competitive.

 It isn't just about lack of parachute payments. It's about the financial precipice City stand on, thanks to the profligacy of the past management. 

Put both together, Pearson's hands are tied.

We've known all season we cannot compete with the best in this division. Yesterday at least showed we can worry them by scoring on the break. 

[Waconda]

5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 It isn't just about lack of parachute payments. It's about the financial precipice City stand on, thanks to the profligacy of the past management. 

Put both together, Pearson's hands are tied.

We've known all season we cannot compete with the best in this division. Yesterday at least showed we can worry them by scoring on the break. 

He has underperformed with the squad he has had available to him.

Forget the smoke screen of financial woes constantly being used as an excuse, doesn't affect the here and now.

He has had a squad capable of being .500 in this Division and has produced nothing like it.

Those managers quoted have produced far more with far less. It can be done.

[Northern Red]

Nobby Namechange is shitting the bed for attention again I see.

[Waconda]

27 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Nobby Namechange is shitting the bed for attention again I see.

Point proved.

[East Londoner]

Having been to both the Fulham and Bournemouth away games it’s fairly clear why Fulham are going to win the league.

They have that killer instinct which in both games against us Bournemouth didn’t have. Bournemouth let us back into a game they should’ve been out of sight of and suspect they’ll struggle next season 

[Red-Robbo]

6 hours ago, Waconda said:

He has underperformed with the squad he has had available to him.

Forget the smoke screen of financial woes constantly being used as an excuse, doesn't affect the here and now.

He has had a squad capable of being .500 in this Division and has produced nothing like it.

Those managers quoted have produced far more with far less. It can be done.

 

The scientific basis for saying "this squad is capable of X, Y or Z" is about as sound as getting your weather forecast from a bit of seaweed.

The fact is, Pearson inherited a disinterested and demoralised squad and has started to rebuild, but is stymied by high-wage underperformers he is stuck with this season. 

I'm as disappointed in the last few years of City performances as you, but he's only halfway to getting the sort of squad he might be able to work with here.

Next season, he'll hopefully have more ducks in a line and we can accurately judge how he's working out. I don't think Pearson is beyond criticism and for sure I've seen him make mistakes. I'd like to give him that extra window to see what he can do though.

Financial considerations are hardly a "smokescreen" though. There is a reason why the two runaway leaders of this division are where they are. Including the club that beat us by one (offside) goal yesterday. 

[GrahamC]

20 hours ago, Waconda said:

Nathan Jones, Ryan Lowe, Mark Robins, Gary Rowett and Neil Critchley all doing well without parachute payments.

It is possible to be at least be competitive.

And which of them inherited a side that had just lost £38m?

[Waconda]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

And which of them inherited a side that had just lost £38m?

Irrelevant,.

They are coaching the players they have right now and getting more out of them.

We have a squad that should be mid table and at least be .500 = Underperforming 

Those  other managers have bottom half squads = Overperforming

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, Waconda said:

Irrelevant,.

They are coaching the players they have right now and getting more out of them.

We have a squad that should be mid table and at least be .500 = Underperforming 

Those  other managers have bottom half squads = Overperforming

Irrelevant? 

Laughable comment.
 

[Waconda]

Just now, GrahamC said:

Irrelevant? 

Laughable comment.
 

How do you not understand it is irrelevant ?

We have the players we have, debt, loses or whatever, we have the players we have.

They wouldn't be better players with £100 million in our bank account or worse with loses of £100 million

We have a solid mid table squad of players, better than many teams above us and we have underperformed.

[GrahamC]

14 minutes ago, Waconda said:

How do you not understand it is irrelevant ?

We have the players we have, debt, loses or whatever, we have the players we have.

They wouldn't be better players with £100 million in our bank account or worse with loses of £100 million

We have a solid mid table squad of players, better than many teams above us and we have underperformed.

Because it is completely subjective, you think we have a mid table squad, whereas others don’t.

Neither of us is convincing the other, so I’m going to leave this now.

[BCFC Rich]

Some quotes from the Bournemouth forum post match thread - Full disclosure I am mostly cherry picking the positive comments on this occasion there are bournemouth fans also also think they should have won by more etc. 

 

Bristol deserved their 2 goals. Well executed, both of them. Clinical in fact...... not a bad team in the making.

Great game of football, no signs of “playing with the handbrake on”. Could’ve scored 4 or 5, they could’ve scored more potentially. Ref was ****. Standard championship fare

Good result in the end Bristol stretched us.

Out of interest had a glance at their match thread and they mostly seem convinced they should have been given a penalty. Genuinely laughable. It was a blatant dive and the only reason he wasn't booked was because the ref was being a ***** all afternoon.

Incredibly pleasing the show of intent we’ve shown in the last two games. The performances have been light years ahead of the turgid Peterborough and Reading displays. It’s like Parker has all of a sudden told them to express themselves. (Put this here becuase it shows this was probably one of there better recent performances).

I thought this would be a difficult game today - think Bristol city are playing better than results suggest

How many corners did we get? Never looked like we would score from them (loved this one given our recent issues)

but credit to Weimann who made the forward pass from just inside our half and then raced forward to tap in from three yards.

Bristol playing their part in a good advertisement of championship football.

My thought is, having watched both Bristol and Huddersfield, home and away this season, there's not much between them but somehow Huddersfield went on a long unbeaten run and we beat both of them twice, comfortably.

Both teams looked OK when they weren't sitting back managing the score. Both looked vulnerable when they were.

[Jerseybean]

EP verdict and observations: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-citys-defeat-revealed-gulf-6901902