RudiRed Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 He has improved his game massively. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 I think Pearson deserves a lot of credit for Weinmans form (as well as the player himself). He resigned him and played him in his favourite/best position generally. For me, he’s never looked like a proper goal scorer until Pearson came in. If Johnson had managed to get him to score 20 goals in a season, he’d be shoehorning ‘his’ achievement in every interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 6 hours ago, GrahamC said: I looked it up, Tom “only” scored 37 at that level for us, but that’s because he also scored 40 top flight goals. Peerless since Atyeo for me. Yeah, I meant Champ and above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 7 hours ago, GrahamC said: His goal yesterday was his 45th at Championship level for us, the same number as Nicky Maynard managed in red & he’s now 3 behind the great Wayne Allison. I cannot work out the last player to get 50 goals for us at this level, maybe Tom Ritchie? But seeing as he has now scored 24 in his last 48 league games for us (pretty sure that we can all work out that is a one in two strike rate) & of course that doesn’t include a single penalty, it is a truly phenomenal effort & seeing as he now only needs 5 more, he looks odds on to get there. I know some are now regretting their stereotyping of him as someone who “just runs around” “almost stealing a living” but let’s be completely honest, we would be absolutely fecked without him, wouldn’t we? What a shame we don't have a team around him to support his remarkable efforts for Bristol City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 Weimann is our saviour When we got him, I popped over to the Derby forum to thank them for allowing us to get him. Their reply was that he wasn’t good enough for Derby - he couldn’t take them where they wanted to go - but he’d do a job for little ole Brizzle. Fk them - and I expect Andi to feel the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 Is this the same Weimann who "just runs around a lot"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 hours ago, redsince1994 said: Be impressed if anyone saw Brian Clark on that list Why, I did ,plus 16 others . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 7 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Why, I did ,plus 16 others . So did I, along with the great John Atyeo and Terry Bush. I’m struggling, though, to recall if I saw all three in the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 hours ago, downendcity said: Is this the same Weimann who "just runs around a lot"? I think a lot of people including myself are now eating humble pie on that one however it’s worth noting, under Johnson, generally that was all he did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) All Galleys goals were at this level, as Alan Dicks famously said when we got promotion, his goals kept us in the 2nd division while he built a side capable of getting to the 1st. Edited August 8, 2022 by Port Said Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Yeah, I meant Champ and above. Absolutely, I mean you can hardly say Tom’s 77 (in his first spell) didn’t come at the highest standard when over half of them were scored in the top division. I still don’t think those who never saw him play then understand just how good he was at his peak. Ridiculously modest bloke, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Absolutely, I mean you can hardly say Tom’s 77 (in his first spell) didn’t come at the highest standard when over half of them were scored in the top division. I still don’t think those who never saw him play then understand just how good he was at his peak. Ridiculously modest bloke, too. Sir Tom just never looked like a top class forward . He was lanky, not terribly muscular but boy did he earn his corn . Top bloke. Top ‘baller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Club and Country said: I think a lot of people including myself are now eating humble pie on that one however it’s worth noting, under Johnson, generally that was all he did Exactly. When played out of position it's all he did. Now he's back in his proper position he's doing what he does best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: So did I, along with the great John Atyeo and Terry Bush. I’m struggling, though, to recall if I saw all three in the same team. You would have done, I'm pretty sure I did. Don't forget TB actually started off as the old wing-half . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: You would have done, I'm pretty sure I did. Don't forget TB actually started off as the old wing-half . Yes, perhaps, as you suggest, Terry Bush was playing as a wing half if ever I saw him, John Atyeo and Brian Clark playing together in the same team. When I first started watching City (1965/66 season), I am pretty sure the front two were John Atyeo and Brian Clark; of course, John Atyeo retired at the end of that season. The following season would then have been Brian Clark paired with Terry Bush, before Brian Clark retired at the end of that season, replaced later by John Galley. Consequently, if I did see all three play together in the same team, it must have been in the 1965/66 season, with TB playing, as you say, as a wing half, unless he was playing as part of a front three. I wonder if that was possible, as the back five (2-6) I recall back then were Tony Ford, Alec Briggs, Gordon Parr, Jack Connor and Gordon Low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Yes, perhaps, as you suggest, Terry Bush was playing as a wing half if ever I saw him, John Atyeo and Brian Clark playing together in the same team. When I first started watching City (1965/66 season), I am pretty sure the front two were John Atyeo and Brian Clark; of course, John Atyeo retired at the end of that season. The following season would then have been Brian Clark paired with Terry Bush, before Brian Clark retired at the end of that season, replaced later by John Galley. Consequently, if I did see all three play together in the same team, it must have been in the 1965/66 season, with TB playing, as you say, as a wing half, unless he was playing as part of a front three. I wonder if that was possible, as the back five (2-6) I recall back then were Tony Ford, Alec Briggs, Gordon Parr, Jack Connor and Gordon Low. Brian Clark moved to Huddersfield in a swap with Johnny Quigley then went to Cardiff and played alongside John Toshack for a while. I think he played for a few other clubs before he retired. Because of Atyeo's status Brian is a bit of a forgotten hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Yes, perhaps, as you suggest, Terry Bush was playing as a wing half if ever I saw him, John Atyeo and Brian Clark playing together in the same team. When I first started watching City (1965/66 season), I am pretty sure the front two were John Atyeo and Brian Clark; of course, John Atyeo retired at the end of that season. The following season would then have been Brian Clark paired with Terry Bush, before Brian Clark retired at the end of that season, replaced later by John Galley. Consequently, if I did see all three play together in the same team, it must have been in the 1965/66 season, with TB playing, as you say, as a wing half, unless he was playing as part of a front three. I wonder if that was possible, as the back five (2-6) I recall back then were Tony Ford, Alec Briggs, Gordon Parr, Jack Connor and Gordon Low. Brian Clark was only 23 in 1966, he played on for another 12/13 years ending up with Newport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, chinapig said: Brian Clark moved to Huddersfield in a swap with Johnny Quigley then went to Cardiff and played alongside John Toshack for a while. I think he played for a few other clubs before he retired. Because of Atyeo's status Brian is a bit of a forgotten hero. Ah, Yes, I remember now. I know he stopped playing for City, but, with the passing of (my) years, I thought he had retired, as I recall John Galley signing shortly after. JQ, of course, was replaced by Bobby Kellard. 5 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Brian Clark was only 23 in 1966, he played on for another 12/13 years ending up with Newport. I never realised (had forgotten) he was that young when he left City, although, of course, to a young boy all men look old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, chinapig said: Brian Clark moved to Huddersfield in a swap with Johnny Quigley then went to Cardiff and played alongside John Toshack for a while. I think he played for a few other clubs before he retired. Because of Atyeo's status Brian is a bit of a forgotten hero. Bournemouth & Boscombe ( that's one club ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Ah, Yes, I remember now. I know he stopped playing for City, but, with the passing of (my) years, I thought he had retired, as I recall John Galley signing shortly after. JQ, of course, was replaced by Bobby Kellard. I never realised (had forgotten) he was that young when he left City, although, of course, to a young boy all men look old. Dec 67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Bournemouth & Boscombe ( that's one club ) None of that AFC Bournemouth nonsense! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Tony Tony Thorpe was one of my favourite players. Rarely got offside due to his timing of his runs. Glad to see he gets a mention. I think Weimann's a terrific player and he's definitely benefiting from playing in his correct position. Let's not forget his goal on Saturday was a lovely bit of attacking play and great composure to finish. Long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Club and Country said: I think a lot of people including myself are now eating humble pie on that one however it’s worth noting, under Johnson, generally that was all he did We've had too many "square peg" players played in "round holes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Even when he was "just running around" I never felt he was "stealing a wage." An honourable pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 His record speaks for itself- especially under NP. Let's not forget too the assists, plus the intangibles yet important bits such as energy, clever runs, movement, versatility- and feeding into energy and versatility where required, self-sacrifice for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Even when he was "just running around" I never felt he was "stealing a wage." An honourable pro. Prior to last season all too often I felt his effectiveness was limited by the abilities of those he played with. In particular, to make the most of his movement and ability to create space, we needed players in midfield with the vision to see this and ability to play the pass to take advantage. I thought that Palmer might be that player, but was sadly mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, downendcity said: Prior to last season all too often I felt his effectiveness was limited by the abilities of those he played with. In particular, to make the most of his movement and ability to create space, we needed players in midfield with the vision to see this and ability to play the pass to take advantage. I thought that Palmer might be that player, but was sadly mistaken. Martin and especially Semenyo assisted most of his goals it seemed. The lack of midfield assists was negated. Maybe someone has the stats to confirm it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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